Negative ONLY thread

[Dragon David]

I know that I have been plenty negative with a lot of my posts on this forum over the months since I joined, but here I go again.

Looking at the games played so far this round has put me off the game. I don't know what it is but gee there is nothing that excites me and the games that have been played so far are meaningless and mistake ridden by lots of players and bad calls by refs. It's just turned me off.

I am realising that there are more important things to do with my time and more important things that are happening to the world in general that league is just another sport that I can take or leave now.

Sorry for the rant - but same old, same old now.

 

[Como Connection]

I know that I have been plenty negative with a lot of my posts on this forum over the months since I joined, but here I go again.

Looking at the games played so far this round has put me off the game. I don't know what it is but gee there is nothing that excites me and the games that have been played so far are meaningless and mistake ridden by lots of players and bad calls by refs. It's just turned me off.

I am realising that there are more important things to do with my time and more important things that are happening to the world in general that league is just another sport that I can take or leave now.

Sorry for the rant - but same old, same old now.

Some positive advice.
I only watch when Saints are playing, so you only have to stress once a week.
CC

 

[Dragon David]

Some positive advice.
I only watch when Saints are playing, so you only have to stress once a week.
CC

Yes, that's the solution, thanks CC.

 

[Number of the Beath]

I know that I have been plenty negative with a lot of my posts on this forum over the months since I joined, but here I go again.

Looking at the games played so far this round has put me off the game. I don't know what it is but gee there is nothing that excites me and the games that have been played so far are meaningless and mistake ridden by lots of players and bad calls by refs. It's just turned me off.

I am realising that there are more important things to do with my time and more important things that are happening to the world in general that league is just another sport that I can take or leave now.

Sorry for the rant - but same old, same old now.

Spot on - I've been thinking this for some time and find it near impossible to watch a game that Saints aren't playing ( and even then it's a struggle ).

What's doing it for me is :
a) the constant rule changes, few of which improve the game ie the 40/20 which somewhat did, the 6-Again which definitely didn't, the ten metre rule which also didn't
b) every team has 4/5/6 different jerseys. I can condone three - home, away. ANZAC or Indigenous round.
c) the revolving door of players, even in mid-season. Additionally, I reckon that 50% of all media articles about rugby league are about contract rumours/negotiations/releases. Another 30% would be about feuds/personality clashes/player misbehaviour/Covid violations. The remaining 20% would (perhaps) mostly be about the actual football and that's because
d) it has become REALLY boring. Everything that happens on the field looks like it comes out of the coaches playbook (It's just that some coaches have a bigger playbook than others).

I'm not a bring back the biff type, but I am a bring back the creativity and spontaneity type. I listened to some clown bagging the kicking duel the other day. My argument was that it was a good way to gain territory that gave the rest of your players some recovery time, a break from the bash and barge, and was one of the things that gave the game some variety. Andrew Voss - for one - takes the piss every time a player attempts a chip and chase. There are some good players around now, but mostly it reminds me of FIFA 21 - your players are as good as the AI and the person with the controller.

 

[Dragon David]

Spot on - I've been thinking this for some time and find it near impossible to watch a game that Saints aren't playing ( and even then it's a struggle ).

What's doing it for me is :
a) the constant rule changes, few of which improve the game ie the 40/20 which somewhat did, the 6-Again which definitely didn't, the ten metre rule which also didn't
b) every team has 4/5/6 different jerseys. I can condone three - home, away. ANZAC or Indigenous round.
c) the revolving door of players, even in mid-season. Additionally, I reckon that 50% of all media articles about rugby league are about contract rumours/negotiations/releases. Another 30% would be about feuds/personality clashes/player misbehaviour/Covid violations. The remaining 20% would (perhaps) mostly be about the actual football and that's because
d) it has become REALLY boring. Everything that happens on the field looks like it comes out of the coaches playbook (It's just that some coaches have a bigger playbook than others).

I'm not a bring back the biff type, but I am a bring back the creativity and spontaneity type. I listened to some clown bagging the kicking duel the other day. My argument was that it was a good way to gain territory that gave the rest of your players some recovery time, a break from the bash and barge, and was one of the things that gave the game some variety. Andrew Voss - for one - takes the piss every time a player attempts a chip and chase. There are some good players around now, but mostly it reminds me of FIFA 21 - your players are as good as the AI and the person with the controller.

Good negative post NOTB. I couldn't have said it any better. Yes, the more games you watch the more disillusioned you become of the sport and when you read and hear what has been written and said by all of the "free" reporting/speaking media personnel of the airwaves and paper trash, the more you are turned off the sport.

All this and the multitude of rule changes that make you scrutinise every decision that the refs make to see if they have called their decisions right and getting frustrated with those decisions. It's just pulling at your hair job if you have any and/or swearing that loud that the whole of the neighbourhood can hear you and they say to themselves - "there's that bloody David going on again. That sport that he must watch every weekend must be the worst sport being played on this planet if it irks him so much". Which at times it really does.

 

[Dragon David]

Most of us would have said that this year (2021) with a new coach that we would play as best as we could and not to expect anything too much. Well in a way this is the result. We have played as best as we could and didn't end up with the spoon.

The thing is though, what I have seen this year is that we are not anywhere near the top 6 teams even allowing for new coaches and some new players. For next year we would be getting rid of several players and we have signed a few to balance out the numbers. So what will most of us be saying about how we will fare next year? I think better but not great and end up a couple of rungs up the ladder.

 

[Kolum Kid]

Spot on - I've been thinking this for some time and find it near impossible to watch a game that Saints aren't playing ( and even then it's a struggle ).

What's doing it for me is :
a) the constant rule changes, few of which improve the game ie the 40/20 which somewhat did, the 6-Again which definitely didn't, the ten metre rule which also didn't
b) every team has 4/5/6 different jerseys. I can condone three - home, away. ANZAC or Indigenous round.
c) the revolving door of players, even in mid-season. Additionally, I reckon that 50% of all media articles about rugby league are about contract rumours/negotiations/releases. Another 30% would be about feuds/personality clashes/player misbehaviour/Covid violations. The remaining 20% would (perhaps) mostly be about the actual football and that's because
d) it has become REALLY boring. Everything that happens on the field looks like it comes out of the coaches playbook (It's just that some coaches have a bigger playbook than others).

I'm not a bring back the biff type, but I am a bring back the creativity and spontaneity type. I listened to some clown bagging the kicking duel the other day. My argument was that it was a good way to gain territory that gave the rest of your players some recovery time, a break from the bash and barge, and was one of the things that gave the game some variety. Andrew Voss - for one - takes the piss every time a player attempts a chip and chase. There are some good players around now, but mostly it reminds me of FIFA 21 - your players are as good as the AI and the person with the controller.

Exactly my view of the current state of the game. Another thing that is turning me off is the lopsided scores this year. Nothing better than a tight game but when a team is 20 - 30 points ahead it gets a bit boring. Even the top sides are coping 40+ points hidings at times

 

[Inisai Toga]

Spot on - I've been thinking this for some time and find it near impossible to watch a game that Saints aren't playing ( and even then it's a struggle ).

What's doing it for me is :
a) the constant rule changes, few of which improve the game ie the 40/20 which somewhat did, the 6-Again which definitely didn't, the ten metre rule which also didn't
b) every team has 4/5/6 different jerseys. I can condone three - home, away. ANZAC or Indigenous round.
c) the revolving door of players, even in mid-season. Additionally, I reckon that 50% of all media articles about rugby league are about contract rumours/negotiations/releases. Another 30% would be about feuds/personality clashes/player misbehaviour/Covid violations. The remaining 20% would (perhaps) mostly be about the actual football and that's because
d) it has become REALLY boring. Everything that happens on the field looks like it comes out of the coaches playbook (It's just that some coaches have a bigger playbook than others).

I'm not a bring back the biff type, but I am a bring back the creativity and spontaneity type. I listened to some clown bagging the kicking duel the other day. My argument was that it was a good way to gain territory that gave the rest of your players some recovery time, a break from the bash and barge, and was one of the things that gave the game some variety. Andrew Voss - for one - takes the piss every time a player attempts a chip and chase. There are some good players around now, but mostly it reminds me of FIFA 21 - your players are as good as the AI and the person with the controller.

Agree, and i’d add the commentating skills to the game to that list. Watch most games with commentary down, as there’s only a handful i enjoy or respect their analysis without the bias and set agendas.

Sooner they get away from the ‘ex players has to be a commentator’ mindset the better. Add the current journalist contribution gossip rubbish and over hyped crap around the game, it’s a pretty average presentation of the game overall imo.

 

[baggygreen man]

A long stint in reserve grade may cure his issues.

No a long stint at another club will.

 

[baggygreen man]

I listened to some clown bagging the kicking duel the other day. My argument was that it was a good way to gain territory that gave the rest of your players some recovery time, a break from the bash and barge, and was one of the things that gave the game some variety.

...like boring Rugby. No thanks. I do like more creativity and spontaneity tho. Chip over the defense and chase for instance.

 

[baggygreen man]

So what will most of us be saying about how we will fare next year? I think better but not great and end up a couple of rungs up the ladder.

That is in the lap of the gods. It will take some time for the new players to settle in.. learn combinations, structure etc. I just hope the next batch can defend so we dont have to face 20/25 point losses. That is very despairing.

 

[Dragon David]

That is in the lap of the gods. It will take some time for the new players to settle in.. learn combinations, structure etc. I just hope the next batch can defend so we dont have to face 20/25 point losses. That is very despairing.

Losing by a couple of points would also be very despairing but yeah much worse being done over by 20+ points.

 

[baggygreen man]

I know that I have been plenty negative with a lot of my posts on this forum over the months since I joined, but here I go again.

Looking at the games played so far this round has put me off the game. I don't know what it is but gee there is nothing that excites me and the games that have been played so far are meaningless and mistake ridden by lots of players and bad calls by refs. It's just turned me off.

I am realising that there are more important things to do with my time and more important things that are happening to the world in general that league is just another sport that I can take or leave now.

Sorry for the rant - but same old, same old now.

I turned off watching non Dragons affairs some time ago as I found our game becoming too one dimensional. I tired of seeing five forward hit ups followed by a kick.. ad finitum game after game. The outside backs were being starved of the ball. I missed seeing a centre or winger in full flite after a sweeping backline movement or a full back chiming in splitting the line and creating something. I missed the spontaneity of clever halves to make something happen from nothing.

 

[baggygreen man]

To be perfectly blunt I am probably the most disillusioned in a life time of supporting the Dragons. The lowest point was in '99 but the past decade, since our last premiership in 2010, has been hard to take too with more losses than wins. Losing the heart and soul players to other clubs, specially local St George juniors because of poor board policy, particularly hurt.

 

[BBTB]

To be perfectly blunt I am probably the most disillusioned since '99 in a life time of supporting the Dragons. When we lost our identity it took me some time to watch a Red V match knowing they were no longer a stand alone club. No longer the St George Dragons.. owners of a world record of premiership wins. I expect many supporters abandoned the club then. I could not. Just had to cop it sweet. The past decade, since our last premiership in 2010, has been hard to take with more losses than wins. Losing the heart and soul players, specially local St George juniors, to

To be perfectly blunt I am probably the most disillusioned since '99 in a life time of supporting the Dragons. When we lost our identity it took me some time to watch a Red V match knowing they were no longer a stand alone club. No longer the St George Dragons.. owners of a world record of premiership wins. I expect many supporters abandoned the club then. I could not. Just had to cop it sweet. The past decade, since our last premiership in 2010, has been hard to take with more losses than wins. Losing the heart and soul players, specially local St George juniors, to other clubs particularly hurts.

Yes,the Stgeorge club has fallen so far,from the glory days.Since that Scoundrel Doust....acquired the roll of CEO.....changing our governance so he and his cronies can't get voted out,the place has become a cesspool of incompetence & corruption. He also brokered the deal with the new partnership, the billionaire B.Gordon.Then retired, after selling for half price.....But wait ,it gets worse .Doust is back sitting on the Board,with his buddy,Andy Gordon,Chairman of the Board. We won't be getting off the bottom of this competition, till this Board is SACKED....

 

[mickeylane]

I really think the top 8 promotes mediocrity and also opens up the flukey premiership win from a team that finishes 8th! Imagine if the Sharks win the comp this year how the Storm would feel?

The simple answer is back to a Top 5, reward the premiers w a week off and go from there...no bullshit teams in the semis ...i don't care about TV rights and making more money from an extra week of finals footy..the comp is f**ked, and lacks any sort of integrity...it also allows shitty coaches to hang onto their jobs because they finished inside the top 8!! when they should be thinking - f**k we finished Mid Table!! need to work harder, recruit better ...i Hate the top 8!! (that rhymes)

 

[Illusion]

Agree top 8 crap ..... should be top 5 thats it .... the top 5 teams at the moment are way ahead of the bottom sides .....

 

[Como Connection]

I gave Normy man of the match.
CC

 

[Inisai Toga]

I really think the top 8 promotes mediocrity and also opens up the flukey premiership win from a team that finishes 8th! Imagine if the Sharks win the comp this year how the Storm would feel?

The simple answer is back to a Top 5, reward the premiers w a week off and go from there...no bullshit teams in the semis ...i don't care about TV rights and making more money from an extra week of finals footy..the comp is f**ked, and lacks any sort of integrity...it also allows shitty coaches to hang onto their jobs because they finished inside the top 8!! when they should be thinking - f**k we finished Mid Table!! need to work harder, recruit better ...i Hate the top 8!! (that rhymes)

Agree! to think Saints sacked the ‘ 56 coach Norm Tipping and he won the bloody comp!

 

[Inisai Toga]

I gave Normy man of the match.
CC

Interestingly, i believe it was the only game he played as Halfback with us, yet thought he played his best football at Parra in that position. History lessson now…