New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Wb1234]

Pretty funny an English fan can see what we’ve been saying all along

with the next nrl tv deal coinciding with the next union World Cup I expect 2028 to be a really bad year for union in terms of player drain to the nrl

esp with another nrl team added

 

[Te Kaha]

absolutely, the overall tecnicalities and percentages on a union pitch stifles the attacking flair of backs compared to league.

BAHAHAHA there are next to no "tecnicalities" (I'm assuming you mean technicalities) different between Rugby and League back play. The difference is purely skill.

All of them mate but this one in particular caught my eye seen as though it looked like the warriors drew a bigger crowd.

Of course the Warriors looked like they drew a bigger crowd. They blocked off over half the stadium so their crowd would look good in TV. Where is the Hurricanes crowd, which was bigger by the way, was allowed to sit anywhere to get out of the 100-150K winds that night. Watch it again and you will see more people at the tops rows of the stadium. Who would have thought it, a foreigner getting something wrong about something in NZ in a thread about NZ... simply par for the course.

 

[Brian potter]

BAHAHAHA there are next to no "tecnicalities" (I'm assuming you mean technicalities) different between Rugby and League back play. The difference is purely skill.

technicalities in that percentage rugby and field position resulting in more kicking and set forward plays take precedence limiting the running opportunities for the backs.

Of course the Warriors looked like they drew a bigger crowd. They blocked off over half the stadium so their crowd would look good in TV. Where is the Hurricanes crowd, which was bigger by the way, was allowed to sit anywhere to get out of the 100-150K winds that night. Watch it again and you will see more people at the tops rows of the stadium. Who would have thought it, a foreigner getting something wrong about something in NZ in a thread about NZ... simply par for the course.

what was the official attendance for the super rugby game then mate?

 

[Brian potter]

Pretty funny an English fan can see what we’ve been saying all along

with the next nrl tv deal coinciding with the next union World Cup I expect 2028 to be a really bad year for union in terms of player drain to the nrl

esp with another nrl team added

But….but all blacks.

 

[Te Kaha]

technicalities in that percentage rugby and field position resulting in more kicking and set forward plays take precedence limiting the running opportunities for the backs.

Which is total bullshit but carry on. Good backs show out and average ones don't. RTS struggles have nothing at all to do with anything you suggested there.

what was the official attendance for the super rugby game then mate?

You're the one who thinks "like the warriors drew a bigger crowd" based purely on a "Youtube Highlights" clip. If you did some actual research I'm sure you would be able to find it, it's not too hard.

 

[Wb1234]

But….but all blacks.

The fact union trolls get triggered by this argument shows how factual it is

 

[Matua]

technicalities in that percentage rugby and field position resulting in more kicking and set forward plays take precedence limiting the running opportunities for the backs.

what was the official attendance for the super rugby game then mate?

Reading your comments I don't think you've ever seen a game of rugby. TBF, that seems true of most posters on here, or they stopped watching rugby back in the early 60s, the same era where league had unlimited tackles.

 

[Brian potter]

The NRL does not get the "top union schoolboy talent", it gets league kids who also play rugby, and a few odds and ends. It can't even get the top league talent all the time, Nanai-Seturo was set to be the next big thing in NZ league and he chose being a bit part player at the Chiefs instead.

NRL clubs sign many highly rated 1st 15 schoolboy talent.

For some context, Tohu Harris has been one of the best NZ league players for a decade now. He is playing league because he wasn't a offered a spot in the Hawkes Bay rugby academy - a smaller NPC province.

maybe his talents are more suited to league? Maybe he was a late developer? Maybe NZR clubs can’t sign everyone?

If you know a struggling product when you see one then obviously you'd be fully aware that league is struggling in NZ. No matter how badly Super Rugby is doing it is worth way more to Sky than the NRL is ... as has been pointed out many times in this thread, even the Warriors don't out-rate the large majority of Super matches.

yes RL is a struggling sport in NZ and can rightly be described as a niche sport in various parts of the country which makes the large number of kiwi born players in the NRL system even more remarkable and shows that there is more room for expansion.

As for the warriors not out rating super rugby clubs again they(warriors) have been dog turd for a decade or so.

 

[Brian potter]

Reading your comments I don't think you've ever seen a game of rugby. TBF, that seems true of most posters on here, or they stopped watching rugby back in the early 60s, the same era where league had unlimited tackles.

I wonder why union brought in all the new rule changes?

 

[Wb1234]

I wonder why union brought in all the new rule changes?

Ptb ?

 

[Brian potter]

Which is total bullshit but carry on. Good backs show out and average ones don't. RTS struggles have nothing at all to do with anything you suggested there.

so at least you agree with me that backs in league have more running opportunities and chances to show their flare compared to union backs?

I also think that RTS needs more time to adjust to all the very structures I mentioned after playing RL for nearly a decade.

You're the one who thinks "like the warriors drew a bigger crowd" based purely on a "Youtube Highlights" clip. If you did some actual research I'm sure you would be able to find it, it's not too hard.

why won’t you give me the official attendance mate?

what’s the big secret?

 

[Te Kaha]

so at least you agree with me that backs in league have more running opportunities and chances to show their flare compared to union backs?

I also think that RTS needs more time to adjust to all the very structures I mentioned after playing RL for nearly a decade.

Yet more bullshit from you. I said no such thing. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about which is hardly surprising. And RTS played Rugby for years before switching codes, and he has had two and a half years to "adjust" back. It's clear he is just not good enough, it's why he will go back to the NRL next year.

why won’t you give me the official attendance mate?

what’s the big secret?

Because you made the erroneous claim, I'm not going to do your "research" for you. I'll make it easy for you. It was announced during the game, was on the big screen and in the coverage. You will just have to watch it to find out.

 

[Brian potter]

Ptb ?

Maybe they’re spooked by the falling attendances?

 

[Wb1234]

Maybe they’re spooked by the falling attendances?

Shame rugby league exists

or union could make the rule changes it has wanted too since 1908 but didn’t have the courage for obvious reasons

 

[Brian potter]

Yet more bullshit from you. I said no such thing. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about which is hardly surprising. And RTS played Rugby for years before switching codes, and he has had two and a half years to "adjust" back. It's clear he is just not good enough, it's why he will go back to the NRL next year.

why all the new rule changes then mate?

Because you made the erroneous claim, I'm not going to do your "research" for you. I'll make it easy for you. It was announced during the game, was on the big screen and in the coverage. You will just have to watch it to find out.

how come you were quick enough to do my research for me when you quoted me the blues v crusaders match attendance mate?

 

[Brian potter]

Shame rugby league exists

or union could make the rule changes it has wanted too since 1908 but didn’t have the courage for obvious reasons

Haha!!!

they should either use the PTP or drop 2 field positions from 15 to 13 and still be different.

 

[Te Kaha]

why all the new rule changes then mate?

What "new rule changes" if you actually knew what you were talking about, you would know there haven't been any new changes, since they don't make changes between world cups. What is happening is there are different trials in different comps to reduce time wasting which is a blight on many sports.

how come you were quick enough to do my research for me when you quoted me the blues v crusaders match attendance mate?

Because it was a quick way to show up your bullshit. Done that already, now you do some work.

 

[Brian potter]

What "new rule changes" if you actually knew what you were talking about, you would know there haven't been any new changes, since they don't make changes between world cups. What is happening is there are different trials in different comps to reduce time wasting which is a blight on many sports.

Super Rugby Pacific announces law innovations for 2023 season

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Because it was a quick way to show up your bullshit. Done that already, now you do some work.

can’t have be all that better than the out of town warriors fixture then if you are refusing to do my research for me like you did for the 25k blues v crusaders fixture.

 

[Te Kaha]

Super Rugby Pacific announces law innovations for 2023 season

super.rugby

can’t have be all that better than the out of town warriors fixture then if you are refusing to do my research for me like you did for the 25k blues v crusaders fixture.

So you are admitting you were wrong, since they aren't rule changes, they are trial rules.

Well we are know you are wrong, so that's all that matters.

 

[Wb1234]

Haha!!!

they should either use the PTP or drop 2 field positions from 15 to 13 and still be different.

Can’t

because of us lol

stuck with a fundamentally flawed and ugly game