New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Gobsmacked]

I wont support a team with those names. So I'd just be watching the Warriors still, and then the odd other game. I'll support the Dolphins over a Cantab team.

What if they were " new Zealand"?

 

[Gobsmacked]

But it wont increase viewership of other NRL games, and likely wont drive new subscriptions. If you're a big league fan you already have Sky for the Warriors, if you're from that region or the rest of NZ then you already have Sky for either the rugby or the league (or both, or soccer, MMA, BB etc).

I disagree.

 

[Matua]

Because you’re from the Auckland region or north island?

I'm from the North Island, but I actively dislike teams from Canterbury.

 

[Matua]

I disagree.

Your disagreement is noted but you're wrong. NZ2 wont drive subscriptions. You don't understand the NZ sports market if you think it will.

 

[Matua]

What if they were " new Zealand"?

Nope. I will keep supporting the Warriors.

Probably the only way I'd switch is if the team was based in Hawkes Bay (and that's not going to happen).

 

[Gobsmacked]

Nope. I will keep supporting the Warriors.

Probably the only way I'd switch is if the team was based in Hawkes Bay (and that's not going to happen).

I understand that being a Warriors supporter. How do you think that would go down for non Warriors supporter across nz?

 

[Matua]

I understand that being a Warriors supporter. How do you think that would go down for non Warriors supporter across nz?

Most NZers are Warriors supporters, if they're not then they still follow an Oz club from before the Warriors existed, it's likely they'll do the same with a new club. If the new team is in Chch and the fan lives in the Naki and supports Manly they're not likely to switch.

 

[Te Kaha]

Second NZ team must be the NRL’s next expansion club

The introduction of The Dolphins in 2023 puts the NRL one step closer to its goal of having 18 clubs.

everythingrugbyleague.com

When are you going to post something from NZ? Instead of all the Aussie unoffical stuff.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Your disagreement is noted but you're wrong. NZ2 wont drive subscriptions. You don't understand the NZ sports market if you think it will.

Just because you're a kiwi doesn't mean you understand the NZ sports market either.
Organisations don't spend millions on staff , surveys and research if any kiwi off the street could tell them.
You say: kiwis watch both
Te kah : hates Rugby League and only loves union.
I've been to NZ 4 times from memory, work with them all the time and have a few kiwi friends. They all give different answers.
The numbers of support since the Dolphins came in suggest a drastic uptik in engagement with a rivalry.
A second NZ team will create a big buzz of excitement and anticipation.
If you don't think that will drive numbers up then I hope for thier sake you're not the kiwi off the street they decided to ask.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Most NZers are Warriors supporters, if they're not then they still follow an Oz club from before the Warriors existed, it's likely they'll do the same with a new club. If the new team is in Chch and the fan lives in the Naki and supports Manly they're not likely to switch.

That's nonsense, support starts somewhere, usually with new club.
Everyone in Brisbane followed the Broncos or another nrl team but miraculously... the Dolphins can pull 30k on a Thursday night...

 

[Te Kaha]

Just because you're a kiwi doesn't mean you understand the NZ sports market either.
Organisations don't spend millions on staff , surveys and research if any kiwi off the street could tell them.
You say: kiwis watch both
Te kah : hates Rugby League and only loves union.
I've been to NZ 4 times from memory, work with them all the time and have a few kiwi friends. They all give different answers.
The numbers of support since the Dolphins came in suggest a drastic uptik in engagement with a rivalry.
A second NZ team will create a big buzz of excitement and anticipation.
If you don't think that will drive numbers up then I hope for thier sake you're not the kiwi off the street they decided to ask.

See now you are just stating bullshit.

You are basing your entire argument on your dreams and wishes.

Its fair to say people who actually live in NZ, spend more time with other NZers, spend more time watching and reading the local news. You are just plain wrong.

The Warriors have been in the comp for almost 30 years, in that time the average of NRL games have not rated highly at all. Just because you want to believe something doesn't make it true.

 

[Te Kaha]

That's nonsense, support starts somewhere, usually with new club.
Everyone in Brisbane followed the Broncos or another nrl team but miraculously... the Dolphins can pull 30k on a Thursday night...

30K out of almost 2.3 million. Comparisons like that are just plain stupid.

 

[Gobsmacked]

30K out of almost 2.3 million. Comparisons like that are just plain stupid.

I try to imagine engaging in arguments with people I call stupid about a game I hate. Wow.

 

[Te Kaha]

I try to imagine engaging in arguments with people I call stupid about a game I hate. Wow.

Well you are half right. You are stupid. But you think i hate League that makes you a moron as well.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Well you are half right. You are stupid. But you think i hate League that makes you a moron as well.

Geez, imagine the response to a sport you did hate then
Pleasant fella aren't ya.

 

[Foreign Legion]

What about the "South Island Sloppy Seconds"

 

[Te Kaha]

Geez, imagine the response to a sport you did hate then
Pleasant fella aren't ya.

It's only because you idiots are concerned about the NRL and Aussie League. You have absolutely no concern about what will happen to the regions if a second team centralises the remaining talent. Just like the clubs, only concerned about themselves.
And I'm perfectly "pleasant" to those who deserve it.

 

[Gobsmacked]

It's only because you idiots are concerned about the NRL and Aussie League. You have absolutely no concern about what will happen to the regions if a second team centralises the remaining talent. Just like the clubs, only concerned about themselves.
And I'm perfectly "pleasant" to those who deserve it.

So you want talented kids to stay in their region playing amateur footy?

 

[Matua]

Just because you're a kiwi doesn't mean you understand the NZ sports market either.
Organisations don't spend millions on staff , surveys and research if any kiwi off the street could tell them.
You say: kiwis watch both
Te kah : hates Rugby League and only loves union.
I've been to NZ 4 times from memory, work with them all the time and have a few kiwi friends. They all give different answers.
The numbers of support since the Dolphins came in suggest a drastic uptik in engagement with a rivalry.
A second NZ team will create a big buzz of excitement and anticipation.
If you don't think that will drive numbers up then I hope for thier sake you're not the kiwi off the street they decided to ask.

I understand it better than you do regardless if I'm a Kiwi or not. A second team might drive excitement and anticipation but not subs. Do you really think there is a pool of fans out there who don't have Sky that will pick it up due to NZ2 entering the comp? There just isn't, all that team does it take fans from the Warriors or encourages the odd fan in that region who already has Sky to watch another game.

I'm not speaking for Te Kaha but I think he likes league, but this is a thread of idle speculation and if we push back against it we get accused of not liking league. Dingbat Australian rugby fans are the say if you push back on the silly stuff they say about league too.

 

[Gobsmacked]

I understand it better than you do regardless if I'm a Kiwi or not. A second team might drive excitement and anticipation but not subs. Do you really think there is a pool of fans out there who don't have Sky that will pick it up due to NZ2 entering the comp? There just isn't, all that team does it take fans from the Warriors or encourages the odd fan in that region who already has Sky to watch another game.

I'm not speaking for Te Kaha but I think he likes league, but this is a thread of idle speculation and if we push back against it we get accused of not liking league. Dingbat Australian rugby fans are the say if you push back on the silly stuff they say about league too.

Whatever dude.
You know everyone in NZ and the point at which they decide on a subscription and why - good for you.

I actually enjoyed the company of kiwis far more in NZ. The ones that come to Australia can't help but be condescending no matter how subjective the topic.
It's actually quite incredible.