New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Gobsmacked]

Neither, It's a different game. It is also irrelevant to this thread. But i spose deflection is all you have.

So you're deflecting by telling me I'm deflecting? Brilliant.

 

[Te Kaha]

So you're deflecting by telling me I'm deflecting? Brilliant.

I answered you dumbarse. Each serves its own purpose.

 

[Gobsmacked]

I answered you dumbarse. Each serves its own purpose.

Neither is your answer?
Are you becoming aware of all your contradictions? Losing track of your lies?

 

[Te Kaha]

Neither is your answer?
Are you becoming aware of all your contradictions? Losing track of your lies?

What kind of special dumbarse are you?

Your question "Do you think that the NRL is better or worse than Super Rugby?".... that's it. No qualifiers. No criteria.

It's a stupid question from a simple person. It is asking for a subjective answer based on any number of personal opinions. Neither is objectively better than the other with no criteria.

And claiming contradictions? I'm sure you can point them out if they existed... which they don't.

 

[Gobsmacked]

What kind of special dumbarse are you?

Your question "Do you think that the NRL is better or worse than Super Rugby?".... that's it. No qualifiers. No criteria.

It's a stupid question from a simple person. It is asking for a subjective answer based on any number of personal opinions. Neither is objectively better than the other with no criteria.

And claiming contradictions? I'm sure you can point them out if they existed... which they don't.

It's incredible how much effort you go to, to say nothing.
Your answer if you have any credibility would have been NRL:
Better coverage
Better access to that coverage
Better players
Better teams
More teams
More evenly matched teams
Better finals format
More games
Runs longer

And it's a better game, why?
Faster
Bigger contact
More skilful
Involves more endurance
Less stoppages

So the far superior comp playing a better game paying players more money is coming to nz .
I can't work out why you're upset

 

[Te Kaha]

It's incredible how much effort you go to, to say nothing.
Your answer if you have any credibility would have been NRL:
Better coverage
Better access to that coverage
Better players
Better teams
More teams
More evenly matched teams
Better finals format
More games
Runs longer

And it's a better game, why?
Faster
Bigger contact
More skilful
Involves more endurance
Less stoppages

So the far superior comp playing a better game paying players more money is coming to nz .
I can't work out why you're upset

See, most of the is completely subjective. It's purely your opinion. It means nothing

Better coverage - In Aussie yes, in NZ no. So you are wrong.
Better access to that coverage - In Aussie yes, in NZ no. So you are wrong.
Better players - Better League players in the NRL. Better Rugby players in Super Rugby. So you are wrong.
Better teams - Better League teams in the NRL. Better Rugby teams in Super Rugby. So you are wrong.
More teams - Doesn't make a comp better numbuts.
More evenly matched teams - At least you got that right.
Better finals format - And even this one.
More games - Doesn't make it better, it does make it longer
Runs longer - Doesn't make it better.

And as for you list of why YOU think it's a better game. So what? Some agree with you, some do not. Just because you think that short list of criteria makes it a better game means less than nothing.

And I'm not upset. You're the one who is continuing on in a thread you started that is patently wrong on so many levels.

 

[Gobsmacked]

See, most of the is completely subjective. It's purely your opinion. It means nothing

Better coverage - In Aussie yes, in NZ no. So you are wrong.
Better access to that coverage - In Aussie yes, in NZ no. So you are wrong.
Better players - Better League players in the NRL. Better Rugby players in Super Rugby. So you are wrong.
Better teams - Better League teams in the NRL. Better Rugby teams in Super Rugby. So you are wrong.
More teams - Doesn't make a comp better numbuts.
More evenly matched teams - At least you got that right.
Better finals format - And even this one.
More games - Doesn't make it better, it does make it longer
Runs longer - Doesn't make it better.

And as for you list of why YOU think it's a better game. So what? Some agree with you, some do not. Just because you think that short list of criteria makes it a better game means less than nothing.

And I'm not upset. You're the one who is continuing on in a thread you started that is patently wrong on so many levels.

For old people like yourself who grew up on this stuff it's all negligible and there's no way you're changing your views on these things ( no matter how glaringly obvious they are) but there's a new generation who can be swayed by a faster more physical game, played with less stoppages in far more established, bigger and more competitive competition.
Over the next decade, the NRL are going to eat RU lunch. Bit by bit then all at once.

 

[Te Kaha]

For old people like yourself who grew up on this stuff it's all negligible and there's no way you're changing your views on these things ( no matter how glaringly obvious they are) but there's a new generation who can be swayed by a faster more physical game, played with less stoppages in far more established, bigger and more competitive competition.
Over the next decade, the NRL are going to eat RU lunch. Bit by bit then all at once.

More subjective waffle... How many times in this thread have you been wrong? Dozens at least. right from the very first post and you haven't got any better..

Here is a dissection of your very first post..

"So far as I can gather New Zealand rugby salaries aren't substantial." - You gathered wrong. NZ Rugby salaries, like League ones range from less than NRL to higher. But you weren't smart enough to realise that
"With a salary cap around just under 5 million put the 5 NZ rugby franchises at say 25 million." How wrong can you possibly be??? There isn't a salary cap in NZ and the franchises don't pay the players.
"Rugby league salary cap is around 11 million." At least you got that one right.
"With just the Warriors it puts the wages on offer in NZ just under half that of Union." Wrong again by a massive margin.
"Another team brings it up to 22 million- nearly parity! Spread only among 2 teams with smaller rosters!" - not even close to being accurate.
"Rugby league will have be in the box seat to lure the best RU talent and place the sport in higher prestige." And you think that the NRL has a higher prestige in NZ than playing for the All Blacks??? You really are an imbecile.

 

[Gobsmacked]

More subjective waffle... How many times in this thread have you been wrong? Dozens at least. right from the very first post and you haven't got any better..

Here is a dissection of your very first post..

"So far as I can gather New Zealand rugby salaries aren't substantial." - You gathered wrong. NZ Rugby salaries, like League ones range from less than NRL to higher. But you weren't smart enough to realise that
"With a salary cap around just under 5 million put the 5 NZ rugby franchises at say 25 million." How wrong can you possibly be??? There isn't a salary cap in NZ and the franchises don't pay the players.
"Rugby league salary cap is around 11 million." At least you got that one right.
"With just the Warriors it puts the wages on offer in NZ just under half that of Union." Wrong again by a massive margin.
"Another team brings it up to 22 million- nearly parity! Spread only among 2 teams with smaller rosters!" - not even close to being accurate.
"Rugby league will have be in the box seat to lure the best RU talent and place the sport in higher prestige." And you think that the NRL has a higher prestige in NZ than playing for the All Blacks??? You really are an imbecile.

That's it pumpkin, let it all out.

 

[Te Kaha]

That's it pumpkin, let it all out.

Why would I? It's clearly obvious you're a blithering idiot.

The only thing I didn't understand from your first post was why? Now I know you don't actually care one iota about League in NZ, you only care about your imaginary war.

It's a good thing that since you started this thread, any prospect of NZ2 has died.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Why would I? It's clearly obvious you're a blithering idiot.

The only thing I didn't understand from your first post was why? Now I know you don't actually care one iota about League in NZ, you only care about your imaginary war.

It's a good thing that since you started this thread, any prospect of NZ2 has died.

Warriors get the bye this week, another 2 points. Do you think they'll be in finals contention at the end of year?

 

[Te Kaha]

Warriors get the bye this week, another 2 points. Do you think they'll be in finals contention at the end of year?

It's entirely possible, although the 2 points for a bye is just stupid. Nice deflection though.

 

[Gobsmacked]

It's entirely possible, although the 2 points for a bye is just stupid. Nice deflection though.

It makes no difference whether or not you get points, it just gives a feeling of something when they're not playing for a week.
I'll happily engage in dialogue when it not something that's already been covered extensively and isn't based with a personal attack. It's boring.

 

[Wb1234]

This might give some context to the relative strengths of the two sports in NZ and whether "NZ2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby":

Can NZR+ be a digital game changer?

Rugby primes itself to enter the streaming market, the Super semis are set, the Warriors uptick gets really upticky, Australia wins the WTC, Djoker wins the French... and a couple of 'grubby' stories.

dylancleaver.substack.com

The article is very pro the Warriors in the section where he discusses that so it's not a case of anti league writing.

Another post defending rugby union to add to your collection on this thread

 

[Te Kaha]

It makes no difference whether or not you get points, it just gives a feeling of something when they're not playing for a week.
I'll happily engage in dialogue when it not something that's already been covered extensively and isn't based with a personal attack. It's boring.

If you aren't smart enough to work out where you are on the table because of a bye there is something wrong with you. Exact table position during the season is irrelevant it holds no meaning until the post season.

And no, you are merely deflecting. The prospect of NZ2 is gone.
You're spending your time attacking another game to make yourself feel better. THAT'S boring.
People who get off on figuratively measuring their dick trying to "one up" over another game is ludicrous... but then that's what this thread is really about.

 

[Vibing]

See, most of the is completely subjective. It's purely your opinion. It means nothing

Better coverage - In Aussie yes, in NZ no. So you are wrong.
Better access to that coverage - In Aussie yes, in NZ no. So you are wrong.
Better players - Better League players in the NRL. Better Rugby players in Super Rugby. So you are wrong.
Better teams - Better League teams in the NRL. Better Rugby teams in Super Rugby. So you are wrong.
More teams - Doesn't make a comp better numbuts.
More evenly matched teams - At least you got that right.
Better finals format - And even this one.
More games - Doesn't make it better, it does make it longer
Runs longer - Doesn't make it better.

And as for you list of why YOU think it's a better game. So what? Some agree with you, some do not. Just because you think that short list of criteria makes it a better game means less than nothing.

And I'm not upset. You're the one who is continuing on in a thread you started that is patently wrong on so many levels.

river in Africa much
wow

 

[Te Kaha]

river in Africa much
wow

Oh look the dribbler puts his half cents worth in.

 

[Vibing]

Oh look the dribbler puts his half cents worth in.

this coming from the forum dribbler LOL

 

[Te Kaha]

this coming from the forum dribbler LOL

Finally some self awareness from him.

 

[Matua]

Another post defending rugby union to add to your collection on this thread

Of course I'm going to defend it against the stupidity that gets promoted in this thread. I'm genuinely a fan of both sports, I've never pretended otherwise - it's not zero sum for me. I can't help it if you can't grasp that concept.