New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Te Kaha]

You could add a ride up the cable car to your itinerary too, has a good view down over the city.

I forgot that's a tourist thing, was always just the way to get down to Lambton Quay from Kelburn.

 

[Wb1234]

Has New Zealand fallen out of love with rugby?

Andrew Gourdie tackles significant issues plaguing the modern game in Aotearoa.

www.newshub.co.nz

 

[Wb1234]

Patrick Gower: Kiwis are falling out of love with rugby and drastic action is needed

There has been a devastating drop in playing numbers over the last five years, writes Patrick Gower.

www.newshub.co.nz

“We've got 45 junior teams. That equates to about 600 kids. We're way down on our numbers. We're about 250-280 kids down this year," Ioane told Newshub.”

13k for a quarter final between Auckland and the Waratahs is pathetic


“The rising popularity of American sports - particularly basketball's NBA - and rugby league's NRL is plain to see on the streets and in schools, and their ability to engage fans shows where rugby is falling short.

"I think the whole aura of the All Blacks or rugby, in general, is waning a bit," notes Ioane.”

You go into schools and you see so many kids wearing NRL shorts and you walk around the malls and everyone's got some sort of apparel of the NRL.”

 

[Gobsmacked]

Has New Zealand fallen out of love with rugby?

Andrew Gourdie tackles significant issues plaguing the modern game in Aotearoa.

www.newshub.co.nz

Thanks for sharing:
"You go into schools and you see so many kids wearing NRL shorts and you walk around the malls and everyone's got some sort of apparel of the NRL."
This after a decade of poor Warriors performance and 3 years out of the country...
If you NZ gets another team, rugby league will absolutely boom!

Interesting that they complain about playing Australian sides and the drag that has on attendance ect, when that all the Warriors do.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Patrick Gower: Kiwis are falling out of love with rugby and drastic action is needed

There has been a devastating drop in playing numbers over the last five years, writes Patrick Gower.

www.newshub.co.nz

“We've got 45 junior teams. That equates to about 600 kids. We're way down on our numbers. We're about 250-280 kids down this year," Ioane told Newshub.”

13k for a quarter final between Auckland and the Waratahs is pathetic


“The rising popularity of American sports - particularly basketball's NBA - and rugby league's NRL is plain to see on the streets and in schools, and their ability to engage fans shows where rugby is falling short.

"I think the whole aura of the All Blacks or rugby, in general, is waning a bit," notes Ioane.”

You go into schools and you see so many kids wearing NRL shorts and you walk around the malls and everyone's got some sort of apparel of the NRL.”

"There's no point in being in denial about this."

 

[Te Kaha]

Thanks for sharing:
"You go into schools and you see so many kids wearing NRL shorts and you walk around the malls and everyone's got some sort of apparel of the NRL."
This after a decade of poor Warriors performance and 3 years out of the country...
If you NZ gets another team, rugby league will absolutely boom!

Interesting that they complain about playing Australian sides and the drag that has on attendance ect, when that all the Warriors do.

You conveniently ignore the massive reason for the loss of players and how it is worse for league. I think i may have actually mentioned it once or twice in this thread.

"Ioane points out the ever-increasing popularity of sports like basketball and football have had a significant impact on their figures."

"Those numbers take another dramatic hit when kids reach the U-8 age group, which is typically when they graduate from rippa to full tackle rugby.
Concussion has become a major talking point in rugby across the world, and its ripple effect has well and truly reached the grassroots game.
Despite the introduction of new rules to lower the legal tackling height in the community game, the now well-publicised long-term effects of concussion have proven a huge deterrent.
"A lot of parents don't want their child to be tackling," says Ioane. "Because there's so much information at the moment about concussion and all the rest of it.
"I think that's right across the board. It's in the media now… every day somebody is talking about concussion.
"As a parent, I can understand you get a bit concerned."

And of course there is the TV

"When you compare the two on a head-to-head basis, the Blues' clash with the Hurricanes drew a viewership of over 182,000, while the Warriors' showdown with the Broncos - which was on at the same time - garnered 107,400"

 

[Gobsmacked]

You conveniently ignore the massive reason for the loss of players and how it is worse for league. I think i may have actually mentioned it once or twice in this thread.

"Ioane points out the ever-increasing popularity of sports like basketball and football have had a significant impact on their figures."

"Those numbers take another dramatic hit when kids reach the U-8 age group, which is typically when they graduate from rippa to full tackle rugby.
Concussion has become a major talking point in rugby across the world, and its ripple effect has well and truly reached the grassroots game.
Despite the introduction of new rules to lower the legal tackling height in the community game, the now well-publicised long-term effects of concussion have proven a huge deterrent.
"A lot of parents don't want their child to be tackling," says Ioane. "Because there's so much information at the moment about concussion and all the rest of it.
"I think that's right across the board. It's in the media now… every day somebody is talking about concussion.
"As a parent, I can understand you get a bit concerned."

And of course there is the TV

"When you compare the two on a head-to-head basis, the Blues' clash with the Hurricanes drew a viewership of over 182,000, while the Warriors' showdown with the Broncos - which was on at the same time - garnered 107,400"

I like how you cut it lol

"The rising popularity of American sports - particularly basketball's NBA - and rugby league's NRL"

 

[Te Kaha]

I like how you cut it lol

"The rising popularity of American sports - particularly basketball's NBA - and rugby league's NRL"

I didn't cut it, i quoted it.

And of course you didn't address the points.
-Player numbers a pluteting in both Rugby codes. No second NZ NRL team will stop that. It will just make it worse.
-The Warriors TV figure 108K for a blockbuster game in primetime...

 

[Gobsmacked]

I didn't cut it, i quoted it.

And of course you didn't address the points.
-Player numbers a pluteting in both Rugby codes. No second NZ NRL team will stop that. It will just make it worse.
-The Warriors TV figure 108K for a blockbuster game in primetime...

Rugby union is going down...
Rugby league is going up...

Do you want me to draw you a graph ?

Rugby union
Rugby league

 

[Te Kaha]

Rugby union is going down...
Rugby league is going up...

Do you want me to draw you a graph ?

Rugby union
Rugby league

The warriors used to get 150K viewers.. so once again you are wrong.

And I doubt you could draw a graph, you haven't been right about anything yet.

 

[MugaB]

And of course there is the TV

"When you compare the two on a head-to-head basis, the Blues' clash with the Hurricanes drew a viewership of over 182,000, while the Warriors' showdown with the Broncos - which was on at the same time - garnered 107,400"

How is that a comparison? 2 NZ RU sides vs 1 NZ RL v Bronx
Shouldn't the comparison be NzRu Blues vs RU reds
And then warriors v Bronx

 

[Te Kaha]

How is that a comparison? 2 NZ RU sides vs 1 NZ RL v Bronx
Shouldn't the comparison be NzRu Blues vs RU reds
And then warriors v Bronx

It's a comparison because he and the wally made claims that Super Rugby is dying and the Warriors viewing numbers are on the rise. Without any actual evidence to support that.
Since then we have had article after article saying that Super Rugby viewing numbers are as good as they have ever been.
Now we have an actual number for a warriors game, a "blockbuster" game no less. While Warriors games used to rate around 150-250K this one barely got over 100K.

 

[Pippen94]

My thoughts on nz...zzzzzzz

 

[Wb1234]

It’s funny how I find quotes from actual kiwis in nz, many broadcasters or journos who like both codes who say super rugby is struggling and people are switching to nrl yet we get pages of drivel on here by the two so called experts

 

[Te Kaha]

It’s funny how I find quotes from actual kiwis in nz, many broadcasters or journos who like both codes who say super rugby is struggling and people are switching to nrl yet we get pages of drivel on here by the two so called experts

Because you just made that shit up. Nothing you posted there is actually true.

 

[Te Kaha]

And then there is this pertinent piece from today about why player numbers are in decline

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

 

[Gobsmacked]

And then there is this pertinent piece from today about why player numbers are in decline

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

That's really sad.
Have some respect dickhead

 

[Gobsmacked]

How is that a comparison? 2 NZ RU sides vs 1 NZ RL v Bronx
Shouldn't the comparison be NzRu Blues vs RU reds
And then warriors v Bronx

And then we'll culminate both countries figures....
Warriors broncos
Nz 108k
Aus 600k
Total 708k

Blues vs reds
Nz 100k
Aus 20k
Total 120k

I wonder which sport is more relevant

 

[Te Kaha]

That's really sad.
Have some respect dickhead

What are you on about you muppet? Of course it's sad. It's also why contact team sports are in decline. That being the major headline on both major news sites will only reinforce that.

 

[Gobsmacked]

What are you on about you muppet? Of course it's sad. It's also why contact team sports are in decline. That being the major headline on both major news sites will only reinforce that.

Using a mans tragedy to support a petty argument is low