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New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

Te Kaha

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If he was 4-5 years younger I would probably agree with you but I just don’t see him starting for the all blacks anytime soon.

I think it’s 60/40 that he’ll sign for the dolphins.

At 26 he would have to learn a game he hasn't played before. If Robertson has told him he will be an All Black next year he wont be going anywhere.
 

Gobsmacked

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“To benefit rugby league, Ian Foster and the Blues have already wasted the brilliance of Roger Tuivasa Sheck.”

been saying it for ages

this Stevenson guy met the dolphins already interesting
I watched the sr final the other night, being in nz in a pub I tried to get into it but even the rusted on union guys here weren't enjoying the penalty fest.
Watched the Titans v Broncos game today and it's amazing how much of a better game it is, there's no comparison. I think there'll be a lot more top line rugby talent making the switch in the coming years.
 

Wb1234

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I've really enjoyed my time here in nz, so many wonderful people and incredible scenery. It really is absolutely gorgeous here.
I have no idea how someone could be as bitter as you in this place.
Yeh I’ve know loads of kiwis real salt of the earth humble people.

maybe he’s the black sheep lmao
 

Te Kaha

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I watched the sr final the other night, being in nz in a pub I tried to get into it but even the rusted on union guys here weren't enjoying the penalty fest.
Watched the Titans v Broncos game today and it's amazing how much of a better game it is, there's no comparison. I think there'll be a lot more top line rugby talent making the switch in the coming years.

Yeah but you haven't been right about anything yet... Your last claim of "at least three bids from NZ" is looking more than a little shaky with reports no corporate money wants to be involved with a bid.
 

Gobsmacked

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Yeah but you haven't been right about anything yet... Your last claim of "at least three bids from NZ" is looking more than a little shaky with reports no corporate money wants to be involved with a bid.
I love this latest argument for how deeply it fails.
Without the NRL stating a location that they will enter a new team, there's currently no bids anywhere because they haven't opened any bidding for anywhere at any time.
Bids don't exist.
People saying they want a team or they want to be in the NRL at this point mean nothing more than a letter to santa.
Now apparently all corporations across nz were consulted about this thing that doesn't exist yet and all of them- every major corporation across nz have formally expressed disinterested in something they don't know what it is because it doesn't exist yet....

You got me, check mate 🤣
Has to be the single dumbest argument on the internet.
 

Te Kaha

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I love this latest argument for how deeply it fails.
Without the NRL stating a location that they will enter a new team, there's currently no bids anywhere because they haven't opened any bidding for anywhere at any time.
Bids don't exist.
People saying they want a team or they want to be in the NRL at this point mean nothing more than a letter to santa.
Now apparently all corporations across nz were consulted about this thing that doesn't exist yet and all of them- every major corporation across nz have formally expressed disinterested in something they don't know what it is because it doesn't exist yet....

You got me, check mate 🤣
Has to be the single dumbest argument on the internet.

Lets see... Andrew Chalmers stated he had 30 million in funding lined up... earlier this year he was asked by a group three current wellington clubs where it stood... he stated he no longer had funding and was unable to get any more.

Then we have this a couple of days ago, from a died in the wool League supporter and former CEO of the Warriors, who its fair to say knows a shit more about what's going on in Business in NZ than you or I.

It's clear that there is no corporate support for NZ2. But of course YOU claim you know better.


It should be a no-brainer, but the odds of another New Zealand franchise becoming the 18th club in the National Rugby League are diminishing by the week. And strangely, they are shrinking due to a lack of corporate interest on this side of the Tasman. With the successful introduction this season of the latest expansion team, the Dolphins, which ended the Broncos’ monopoly of league-mad Brisbane, the National Rugby League (NRL) has a swagger in its step. The Dolphins, under the tutelage of master coach Wayne Bennett, drew a crowd of 32,000-plus for their debut game and then 51,047 for their first-ever local derby against the Broncos. They were also responsible for the Warriors’ biggest home crowd this season (24,000). What’s interesting about the inaugural Dolphins squad is that it’s chock-full of NZ-born players. “I don’t think I’ve ever called a game where all players … from five-eighth to (lock) were all New Zealand born and that’s an Australian-based club,” said veteran Fox Sports commentator Andrew Voss after a recent Dolphins triumph. For Voss, that makes the decision on where to place the 18th franchise, a conversation that will ramp up at the end of this year, an obvious one. “A second team in New Zealand, for mine, is a must and I would rather it be sooner than later, I think now is the time to strike.” Regular readers of this column will know I have long advocated a Christchurch-based franchise for that next expansion tick against bids from Perth, Cairns, Brisbane, Sydney and even Port Moresby. Sadly, ‘Vossy’ and I are not going to get our wish. Indifference kills the moment The failure of a meaningful consortium of credible business operators to step forward with a compelling vision to sell the NRL on a second NZ franchise has all but killed off any chance of Christchurch or anywhere else in Aotearoa hosting the 18th team.
Initially, when talk of a second expansion club in NZ first surfaced a decade ago, it was all centred around the Wellington-based Orcas syndicate, which had mainly been driven by former NZ Rugby League (NZRL) chair Andrew Chalmers. Neither Chalmers nor the Orcas have resurfaced in recent times. Hopes the Crusaders organisation might step outside the box and form a joint venture to bid for a franchise, which could be a co-anchor tenant at the new Christchurch indoor stadium, went nowhere. The failure of anybody within NZ to chase the licensing opportunity boxes the NRL into a corner. It would require them to ignore other cities with active and meaningful campaigns in return for wet-nursing something into creation over here. NRL insiders that the Business of Sport have spoken to said that’s never going to happen. The more likely scenario is NZ will soon disappear as a contender for the 18th licence, likely to be issued in 2025.
 

Gobsmacked

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Lets see... Andrew Chalmers stated he had 30 million in funding lined up... earlier this year he was asked by a group three current wellington clubs where it stood... he stated he no longer had funding and was unable to get any more.

Then we have this a couple of days ago, from a died in the wool League supporter and former CEO of the Warriors, who its fair to say knows a shit more about what's going on in Business in NZ than you or I.

It's clear that there is no corporate support for NZ2. But of course YOU claim you know better.


It should be a no-brainer, but the odds of another New Zealand franchise becoming the 18th club in the National Rugby League are diminishing by the week. And strangely, they are shrinking due to a lack of corporate interest on this side of the Tasman. With the successful introduction this season of the latest expansion team, the Dolphins, which ended the Broncos’ monopoly of league-mad Brisbane, the National Rugby League (NRL) has a swagger in its step. The Dolphins, under the tutelage of master coach Wayne Bennett, drew a crowd of 32,000-plus for their debut game and then 51,047 for their first-ever local derby against the Broncos. They were also responsible for the Warriors’ biggest home crowd this season (24,000). What’s interesting about the inaugural Dolphins squad is that it’s chock-full of NZ-born players. “I don’t think I’ve ever called a game where all players … from five-eighth to (lock) were all New Zealand born and that’s an Australian-based club,” said veteran Fox Sports commentator Andrew Voss after a recent Dolphins triumph. For Voss, that makes the decision on where to place the 18th franchise, a conversation that will ramp up at the end of this year, an obvious one. “A second team in New Zealand, for mine, is a must and I would rather it be sooner than later, I think now is the time to strike.” Regular readers of this column will know I have long advocated a Christchurch-based franchise for that next expansion tick against bids from Perth, Cairns, Brisbane, Sydney and even Port Moresby. Sadly, ‘Vossy’ and I are not going to get our wish. Indifference kills the moment The failure of a meaningful consortium of credible business operators to step forward with a compelling vision to sell the NRL on a second NZ franchise has all but killed off any chance of Christchurch or anywhere else in Aotearoa hosting the 18th team.
Initially, when talk of a second expansion club in NZ first surfaced a decade ago, it was all centred around the Wellington-based Orcas syndicate, which had mainly been driven by former NZ Rugby League (NZRL) chair Andrew Chalmers. Neither Chalmers nor the Orcas have resurfaced in recent times. Hopes the Crusaders organisation might step outside the box and form a joint venture to bid for a franchise, which could be a co-anchor tenant at the new Christchurch indoor stadium, went nowhere. The failure of anybody within NZ to chase the licensing opportunity boxes the NRL into a corner. It would require them to ignore other cities with active and meaningful campaigns in return for wet-nursing something into creation over here. NRL insiders that the Business of Sport have spoken to said that’s never going to happen. The more likely scenario is NZ will soon disappear as a contender for the 18th licence, likely to be issued in 2025.
Written by someone who hasn't even bothered to notice the current format which promoted the Dolphins.
Click bait opinion article based on not only based on nothing but less than that, not even aware of the process of which to make that opinion.
There's not even any facts to state, just reiterating the history to fill up space.
Geez you read some garbage.
 

Te Kaha

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Written by someone who hasn't even bothered to notice the current format which promoted the Dolphins.
Click bait opinion article based on not only based on nothing but less than that, not even aware of the process of which to make that opinion.
There's not even any facts to state, just reiterating the history to fill up space.
Geez you read some garbage.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

He knows more about League in NZ than you ever will.
He knows more about business in NZ than you ever will.
He works for "business desk" one of the bigger business publications in the country.
But of course you are sure you know more than him..

That's hilarious.
 

Gobsmacked

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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

He knows more about League in NZ than you ever will.
He knows more about business in NZ than you ever will.
He works for "business desk" one of the bigger business publications in the country.
But of course you are sure you know more than him..

That's hilarious.
 

Perth Red

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I’d be surprised if nrl open bids in nz without any indication that there is at least one or two they had confidence in. In fact given the silence from any interested parties if nrl was really looking at nz2 I’d have thought they’d be pushing ns bears there given they look like the only financially sound possible bidder for nz.

just can’t see it for club 18. Maybe 19 or 20 but who knows if and when that will ever happen
 

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