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New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

Matua

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It’s about time the rugby gods shined on league and see the warriors lift the NRL trophy and the all blacks not make the rugby union World Cup final.
What a peculiar way of looking at things you English have, so tribal, we want both to win. And the cricket for good measure.
 

Gobsmacked

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What a peculiar way of looking at things you English have, so tribal, we want both to win. And the cricket for good measure.
I kinda get that now about nz and must admit it's a far more admirable stance.
Just sitting in a bar in Christchurch- Everyone is watching the Rugby WC replays while talking about the Warriors..pretty cool.
Really had to experience that to realise how seamlessly to 2 sports coexist here 🤘
 

The Penguin #6.

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I kinda get that now about nz and must admit it's a far more admirable stance.
Just sitting in a bar in Christchurch- Everyone is watching the Rugby WC replays while talking about the Warriors..pretty cool.
Really had to experience that to realise how seamlessly to 2 sports coexist here 🤘
Mate that`s all well and fine while League really poses no threat to union, but if League really started to eat into union territory I suspect attitudes would change quickly amongst die-hard supporters of union, no different to us and the threat posed by fumbleball.
 

docbrown

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I've said it before but the fact that so many people in Wellington and Christchurch can support what is effectively an 'Auckland' team, a second New Zealand team should also just call themselves New Zealand Orcas/Bulls/Rams etc. That way no matter where a person lives in the country, they can pick a 'New Zealand' team to support. Their games could easily be split between Wellington & Christchurch and you'd have fans all over still supporting them (like the Warriors have now).
 

Wb1234

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I kinda get that now about nz and must admit it's a far more admirable stance.
Just sitting in a bar in Christchurch- Everyone is watching the Rugby WC replays while talking about the Warriors..pretty cool.
Really had to experience that to realise how seamlessly to 2 sports coexist here 🤘
Here’s the thing

If you’re a union fan and you get into league it’s hard to go back to the other code any more

sure you will still watch the tests and some high profile club games.

imagine living your life on Diet Coke then someone gives you a taste of the real thing
 

Gobsmacked

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I've said it before but the fact that so many people in Wellington and Christchurch can support what is effectively an 'Auckland' team, a second New Zealand team should also just call themselves New Zealand Orcas/Bulls/Rams etc. That way no matter where a person lives in the country, they can pick a 'New Zealand' team to support. Their games could easily be split between Wellington & Christchurch and you'd have fans all over still supporting them (like the Warriors have now).
I've been saying the same thing. I'd be cool like you're either a Warriors man or Bulls whatever. The rivalry would be entrenched within nabourhoods across the country.
 

docbrown

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I've been saying the same thing. I'd be cool like you're either a Warriors man or Bulls whatever. The rivalry would be entrenched within nabourhoods across the country.
You'd still have Warriors fans in Wellington/Christchurch, just like you'd have NZ2 fans living in Auckland. Having a second team creates a rivalry and gives more opportunities for fans to attend games outside of Auckland. With two teams I'd like to see 12 games in Auckland, at least 8 in Wellington, at least 8 in Christchurch and a couple of others in places like Hamilton etc. That would be more games in Wellington & Christchurch than what Super Rugby has. Under that scenario the entire NZ media market is essentially covered. Also the Friday 6pm EST slot would become basically a New Zealand team slot - either a Warriors home game, a NZ 2 home game or a Warriors/NZ2 away game.
 

Matua

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I kinda get that now about nz and must admit it's a far more admirable stance.
Just sitting in a bar in Christchurch- Everyone is watching the Rugby WC replays while talking about the Warriors..pretty cool.
Really had to experience that to realise how seamlessly to 2 sports coexist here 🤘
:thumbup_tone4:

How is Chch? I haven't actually been there since the earthquake.
 

Matua

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Here’s the thing

If you’re a union fan and you get into league it’s hard to go back to the other code any more

sure you will still watch the tests and some high profile club games.

imagine living your life on Diet Coke then someone gives you a taste of the real thing
Except that's just your completely subjective opinion based on your personal beliefs on what you like in sport - it doesn't in anyway reflect the reality of fans who like both sports. Reading this post you clearly don't have the ability to conceptualise why fans like rugby.

What is completely ironic is that the majority of rugby fans who you think will be instantly converted by league think it's the other way, league is Diet Coke, it's rugby but with a bunch of stuff that fans like as crucial to the game (e.g. rucks, mauls, lineouts, proper scrums, territorial battles) removed from real Coke.
 

Wb1234

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Except that's just your completely subjective opinion based on your personal beliefs on what you like in sport - it doesn't in anyway reflect the reality of fans who like both sports. Reading this post you clearly don't have the ability to conceptualise why fans like rugby.

What is completely ironic is that the majority of rugby fans who you think will be instantly converted by league think it's the other way, league is Diet Coke, it's rugby but with a bunch of stuff that fans like as crucial to the game (e.g. rucks, mauls, lineouts, proper scrums, territorial battles) removed from real Coke.
That’s why super rugby crowds are collapsing or any other metric you want to look at in terms of popularity

warriors have made a prelim final and people acting like they won the union World Cup

the best rugby players in the world are in the nrl. And that’s not even arguable
 

Matua

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That’s why super rugby crowds are collapsing or any other metric you want to look at in terms of popularity

warriors have made a prelim final and people acting like they won the union World Cup
None of that has any relevance to my response to you. Even your partner in crime Gob is pointing out to you that NZers are able to appreciate both games even if you personally don't and lack the ability to understand that others can.

the best rugby players in the world are in the nrl. And that’s not even arguable
This is just a silly comment, this is a forum, not one of your kiddy tik toks.
 

Wb1234

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None of that has any relevance to my response to you. Even your partner in crime Gob is pointing out to you that NZers are able to appreciate both games even if you personally don't and lack the ability to understand that others can.


This is just a silly comment, this is a forum, not one of your kiddy tik toks.
this is a forum

wow

where rugby league fans can express their views

that union World Cup would struggle for first grade quality

out of the hundred of players there you might get a dozen decent first graders in rugby league

other than pushing in scrums for five minutes the core skills of kicking passing and running are dire

I’d rather watch dragons vs tigers in the nrl
 

Matua

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this is a forum

wow

where rugby league fans can express their views

that union World Cup would struggle for first grade quality

out of the hundred of players there you might get a dozen decent first graders in rugby league

other than pushing in scrums for five minutes the core skills of kicking passing and running are dire

I’d rather watch dragons vs tigers in the nrl
You're just being a loon/troll now. I can't believe you're actually that thick that you believe the rubbish in this post.

A guy from 3rd division rugby was a cult star of the NRL this year ...
 

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