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New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

Matua

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No rugby league in those private schools though is there ?
There's probably little demand for league in private schools in NZ.

Ive read stories from warriors players and some league juniors that went to the all blacks that they were pressured to play for the first 15 and not play for their league clubs on the weekend

private schools the world over hate rugby league purely on class based reasons

even in nz there’s that war against rugby league

I went to a private school in Sydney im well aware of the bigotry
Did you even read my post? Private schools do not dominate rugby in NZ so having a cry about that in relation to NZ is pointless.

Such is your inability to process facts that don't suit your world view if you were to say you were currently attending your private primary school I'd 100% believe you.

So league isn't excluded from schools in NZ? lol
Have you been following the posts? I discussed the fact that Auckland has a league competition, and my old school forms a league team when there's a demand.

League is a more a club game in NZ most of NZ anyway. When I was at school I played on Sunday for my club team, if it was part of the school then the team wouldn't exist because the majority of the players would have chosen rugby.
 
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They will, and if just up to tv I’m sure they’d go that way, hopefully though the nrl makes the choice to grow the game for a change, not just pander to tv. Having said that Storm remain one of the top overall watched clubs so maybe different cities might be more appealing than you think?

The Storm developed a strong fanbase in SEQ when the Crushers and Chargers were punted. The Cowboys were a basket case at the time and on the nose in SEQ. The Storm were the only option for people from SEQ who weren't rusted on Broncos fans and only interested in supporting a winning team.


An Adelaide or Perth team won't generate a strong following in SEQ because the void has been filled by the Storm, Titans, Dolphins and rags to riches story of the Cowboys, who now have an enormous supporter base in the region.

I couldn't find any shops to buy Cowboys jerseys when I was a kid. When the club started winning in 2004 they popped up in Rebel stores across Brisbane. It was the first time I was able to walk into a store and buy one, despite looking for them at KMart, Best & Less and Rebel for years prior to that.
 

titoelcolombiano

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There's probably little demand for league in private schools in NZ.


Did you even read my post? Private schools do not dominate rugby in NZ so having a cry about that in relation to NZ is pointless.

Such is your inability to process facts that don't suit your world view if you were to say you were currently attending your private primary school I'd 100% believe you.


Have you been following the posts? I discussed the fact that Auckland has a league competition, and my old school forms a league team when there's a demand.

League is a more a club game in NZ most of NZ anyway. When I was at school I played on Sunday for my club team, if it was part of the school then the team wouldn't exist because the majority of the players would have chosen rugby.
It has to be a club game if it's historically been excluded from schools
 

Wb1234

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There's probably little demand for league in private schools in NZ.


Did you even read my post? Private schools do not dominate rugby in NZ so having a cry about that in relation to NZ is pointless.

Such is your inability to process facts that don't suit your world view if you were to say you were currently attending your private primary school I'd 100% believe you.


Have you been following the posts? I discussed the fact that Auckland has a league competition, and my old school forms a league team when there's a demand.

League is a more a club game in NZ most of NZ anyway. When I was at school I played on Sunday for my club team, if it was part of the school then the team wouldn't exist because the majority of the players would have chosen rugby.
No demand for rugby league in private schools

lol good one

Rugby (union) is a jolly old game and is preferred over football (soccer) due to muscular christianity

it’s to prepare the boys for war

and those working class lads none of those

these private schools haven’t changed since the early 1900s due to their distaste for the working man

it’s why you see British royalty at the union World Cup for example but none attended the women’s (soccer) World Cup even though their team made the final
 

Wb1234

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I think what we’re seeing today is what the warriors would’ve have been without the super league war

they started like this. Then like all the big super league clubs once they came back into the nrl their crowds and support dropped off hugely (broncos raiders)

on field success has always been a flash in the pan (2002 and 2011) and they’ve been a rabble for a long long time

hopefully they build on this year with their pathways producing players like the panthers so they are continually a strong team

plus getting the best kiwi players in their team rather than Australian clubs will help
 

Brian potter

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I think what we’re seeing today is what the warriors would’ve have been without the super league war

they started like this. Then like all the big super league clubs once they came back into the nrl their crowds and support dropped off hugely (broncos raiders)

on field success has always been a flash in the pan (2002 and 2011) and they’ve been a rabble for a long long time

hopefully they build on this year with their pathways producing players like the panthers so they are continually a strong team

plus getting the best kiwi players in their team rather than Australian clubs will help
The warriors have some highly rated youngsters coming through their ranks but as always they are predominantly forwards like zyon Maui’u, tanner stowers-smith, demitric sifakula and Ali leiatua who plays centre.
 

flippikat

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The massive difference is nz2 offers a huge benefit to sky nz and sky open and also a secondary benefit for Australian tv

Perth offer only the second. It’s local market isn’t hugely desired by Aussie tv

if we’re comparing Perth or nz2 then Perth doesn’t come close against nz2

Another factor is where to put that 9th game.. Perth offers a chance for a late Saturday night game - which is a new slot, but that can only be done by Perth home games.

Meanwhile, a 2nd NZ team could help establishing an early game on Sunday - 2pm Sydney/4pm NZ time Sunday timeslot.

That would mean 1 game on Thursday night, 2 back-to-back games on Friday night, 3 back-to-back games on Saturday, then 3 back-to-back games on Sunday.
 

Wb1234

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Another factor is where to put that 9th game.. Perth offers a chance for a late Saturday night game - which is a new slot, but that can only be done by Perth home games.

Meanwhile, a 2nd NZ team could help establishing an early game on Sunday - 2pm Sydney/4pm NZ time Sunday timeslot.

That would mean 1 game on Thursday night, 2 back-to-back games on Friday night, 3 back-to-back games on Saturday, then 3 back-to-back games on Sunday.
Can’t see a game starting Saturday at 9 pm eastern time

possible time slots that aren’t used

sat 2
Sun 12 or 630
Monday night 830
 
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Another factor is where to put that 9th game.. Perth offers a chance for a late Saturday night game - which is a new slot, but that can only be done by Perth home games.

Meanwhile, a 2nd NZ team could help establishing an early game on Sunday - 2pm Sydney/4pm NZ time Sunday timeslot.

That would mean 1 game on Thursday night, 2 back-to-back games on Friday night, 3 back-to-back games on Saturday, then 3 back-to-back games on Sunday.

NZ 2 will provide a lot of options for Foxtel. The Australian clubs will love the fact it can host a few games in the Fri 6pm slot.
 

Matua

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It has to be a club game if it's historically been excluded from schools
Which is irrelevant to what is happening today. That's history.

You lot are straight up weird, league is in rude health in Oz, the best it's ever been, and you keep bringing up Vichy and wanting to transfer your forever war which no longer exists in NZ back into NZ.

To do this, you and your mate Wb just ignore every fact that comes your way. Auckland has a school league comp, private schools don't dominate rugby etc, nope ignore all that and keep on whining.
 

Matua

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No demand for rugby league in private schools

lol good one

Rugby (union) is a jolly old game and is preferred over football (soccer) due to muscular christianity

it’s to prepare the boys for war

and those working class lads none of those

these private schools haven’t changed since the early 1900s due to their distaste for the working man

it’s why you see British royalty at the union World Cup for example but none attended the women’s (soccer) World Cup even though their team made the final
WTF, I didn't think you could lose any more of the plot but you have. None of that bollocks is relevant to NZ.

Let me repeat this yet again, private schools don't dominate rugby in NZ. NZ is not Oz, nor is it the UK.

Get some better material for your trolling.
 

flippikat

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Can’t see a game starting Saturday at 9 pm eastern time

possible time slots that aren’t used

sat 2
Sun 12 or 630
Monday night 830
Good point, and even though NZ audiences are used to the evening's games ending around 11.30pm (give or take), it's hard seeing east coast audiences taking to it - especially if you have post-game coverage starting then - interviews, panel discussion, press conference coverage, Matty Johns show etc.
 

Wb1234

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WTF, I didn't think you could lose any more of the plot but you have. None of that bollocks is relevant to NZ.

Let me repeat this yet again, private schools don't dominate rugby in NZ. NZ is not Oz, nor is it the UK.

Get some better material for your trolling.
Keep dodging the question

any league Inn private schools in nz (catholic schools excluded)

a yes no answer will suffice

Not a paragraph of waffle
 

King-Gutho94

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Another factor is where to put that 9th game.. Perth offers a chance for a late Saturday night game - which is a new slot, but that can only be done by Perth home games.

Meanwhile, a 2nd NZ team could help establishing an early game on Sunday - 2pm Sydney/4pm NZ time Sunday timeslot.

That would mean 1 game on Thursday night, 2 back-to-back games on Friday night, 3 back-to-back games on Saturday, then 3 back-to-back games on Sunday.
Fox would love the perth game to be 6pm here on east coast on Sunday night.

4pm local time in perth. It adds another Sunday arvo match without overlapping matches.
 
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Which is irrelevant to what is happening today. That's history.
Thought-provoking thesis. One for historians of all disciplines to ponder long into the night.

Have you seen the "Auckland RL 100 Years" doc? Acutely relevant are the contributions of Cathy and Clayton Friend, Dean Bell, Graham Lowe, Mike McClennan on the treatment of League players in schools.
 

flippikat

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Fox would love the perth game to be 6pm here on east coast on Sunday night.

4pm local time in perth. It adds another Sunday arvo match without overlapping matches.
It's a good selling point for eastern state clubs that Perth could take a share of those 6pm Sunday (eastern time)/4pm Sunday in Perth kickoffs - it's a time that I bet they'd be happy to relinquish for a few rounds per year.

I imagine Perth would play about half their home games (give or take a game or two) at 4pm Perth/6pm eastern/8pm NZ on Sunday... so that takes care of about quarter of the season in that slot.

The interesting thing about NZ 2 is that between them & the Warriors you could pretty easily get them to host about half the 6pm (Eastern Time)/8pm NZ Time Friday night kickoffs.. and fill a lot of a 2pm Eastern/4pm NZ Sunday kickoff timeslots.

Maybe the NRL will announce Perth & NZ2 as teams 18 and 19, with bids open immediately for team 20 from anywhere? (Come on down, Brisbane Easts, North Sydney, PNG, Adelaide, NZ 3.. etc etc - show us yr business case!)
 

Matua

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Keep dodging the question

any league Inn private schools in nz (catholic schools excluded)

a yes no answer will suffice

Not a paragraph of waffle
I'm not dodging the question, and I personally don't know if any private schools play league (maybe you can email them all to ask since it seems to trouble you so much), but it is wholly irrelevant as pointed out ad nauseam because NZ is not Oz and rugby is not private school dominated.
 

Wb1234

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It's a good selling point for eastern state clubs that Perth could take a share of those 6pm Sunday (eastern time)/4pm Sunday in Perth kickoffs - it's a time that I bet they'd be happy to relinquish for a few rounds per year.

I imagine Perth would play about half their home games (give or take a game or two) at 4pm Perth/6pm eastern/8pm NZ on Sunday... so that takes care of about quarter of the season in that slot.

The interesting thing about NZ 2 is that between them & the Warriors you could pretty easily get them to host about half the 6pm (Eastern Time)/8pm NZ Time Friday night kickoffs.. and fill a lot of a 2pm Eastern/4pm NZ Sunday kickoff timeslots.

Maybe the NRL will announce Perth & NZ2 as teams 18 and 19, with bids open immediately for team 20 from anywhere? (Come on down, Brisbane Easts, North Sydney, PNG, Adelaide, NZ 3.. etc etc - show us yr business case!)
Png is pretty much nailed on as team 18
 

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