New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[SpaceMonkey]

Who will replace the Rebels?

Nobody, I’d think. Super Rugby doesn’t seem to be particularly fixed on having a set number of teams and I can’t think of any obvious candidates.

 

[Wb1234]

Who will replace the Rebels?

The Empire

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Nobody

What about the Argentinian team?

 

[final say]

Merge with Ipswich to become the Brisbane Jets. Problem solved.

Tell them that.

 

[final say]

Nobody, I’d think. Super Rugby doesn’t seem to be particularly fixed on having a set number of teams and I can’t think of any obvious candidates.

There's really not enough time and thier were good options...why Moana Pasifika?... the bottom of the barrel has been scrapped.

 

[Chris Reid]

Yea better be careful!! what exactly of Justin?

 

[Matiunz]

The NPC reminds me of the Welsh Rugby Union Premiership when once it was the be all and end of top flight club Rugby with decent crowds and now in Wales no one watches it alongside the so called merged regions and Club Soccer is king.

NPC still plays an important part in the NZ rugby eco system hence why it’s still being funded more than it generates. Also gotta remember a number of the smaller provinces are only populated in the 100-200k range, they’re gonna struggle to get any decent crowds. A similar parallel is how NSW cup gets a fraction of the NRL crowds.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Tell them that.

They can always use the "Firehawks" brand. It's no worse than "Kea" or "Pirates".

 

[Matiunz]

Raiders are definitely an asset rich club. They recently sold some assets in Logan and Toowoomba.

Where the Raiders struggle is acquiring support from the corporate sector. A new stadium with better corporate facilities might help them earn more money, but needs approval from the ACT and fed gov.

If an AwFuL club is introduced in Canberra then it could take corporate support away from the Raiders.

When you add in assets then Raiders are not a poor club.

Heard something recently around the importance to clubs of corporate support and that increasing the corporate facilities by 200 people Is approximately equivalent to 5000 extra general tickets

 

[Matiunz]

Who will replace the Rebels?

Jaguares are due back from ‘26 I believe (with talk of a second Argentinian team to replace Moana Pasifika), there was a move to fast track them in the event the rebels went under but I think they may be with 11 teams for the ,25 season at this stage. Another big stumbling block is the Rebels were due to play the Lions on their Aus tour not sure who is going to replace that game

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Heard something recently around the importance to clubs of corporate support and that increasing the corporate facilities by 200 people Is approximately equivalent to 5000 extra general tickets

A Level 1 Corporate Box at a Cowboys game costs $1,840 for eight people.

2024 Level 1 Corporate Box

2024 Level 1 Corporate Box

www.cowboys.com.au

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Jaguares are due back from ‘26 I believe (with talk of a second Argentinian team to replace Moana Pasifika), there was a move to fast track them in the event the rebels went under but I think they may be with 11 teams for the ,25 season at this stage. Another big stumbling block is the Rebels were due to play the Lions on their Aus tour not sure who is going to replace that game

It makes sense to introduce a second team from Argentina.

I think Australia should cut the Force, too.

 

[Wb1234]

It makes sense to introduce a second team from Argentina.

I think Australia should cut the Force, too.

Don’t forget Japan that makes more sense

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Don’t forget Japan that makes more sense

Japan has its own competition.

 

[Dark Corner]

If you go back to the nswrl any club that was admitted was basically broke for 20 years

Cronulla would’ve died off and norths to the central coast

this was before wages went super league crazy

How were they skint as I thoughts pokies helped the clubs ?

 

[Wb1234]

How were they skint as I thoughts pokies helped the clubs ?

Small leagues club

small capacity ground

up until five years ago a basket case

they were entitled to 60 million cash from sale of their land for development ended up cashing out early or they were going broke got loans paid out and expanded leagues club and gym to rent out but no more cash

developer made 300 million profit

 

[Matiunz]

Japan has its own competition.

That’s basically what killed the sunwolves, they would have needed to move their competition to align with super rugby or have some co-operation with the clubs to share players etc.
Shame because Japan was starting to make some solid inroads in terms of player ability

 

[Matiunz]

The Press

www.thepress.co.nz

16% increase of viewership on last year for Super Rugby in NZ, good year for sports all round.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

What about the Argentinian team?

No idea whether they’ve been approached or if they’re interested.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

That’s basically what killed the sunwolves, they would have needed to move their competition to align with super rugby or have some co-operation with the clubs to share players etc.
Shame because Japan was starting to make some solid inroads in terms of player ability

Any chance of Japanese RU accepting teams from New Zealand?