New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Thatwasnthighref]

Who ?

Interesting given he's been picked for the All Black second stringers tour.

He'll be 28 next year so leaving things a wee bit late but he's got plenty of ability. Quick and decent size too, similar in stature to Mark N.

Defence has been questioned in the past, but from memory, he said the feedback he got from the AB coaches last year was mainly around ruck defence so not an issue in league obviously.

Not a bad gamble, if its at the right price.

 

[Wb1234]

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Any good ?

Any other good starts about to debut in first grade ?

 

[Perth Red]

Surprisingly silent from the NZ bids on the $20mil license fee request?

 

[Gobsmacked]

Surprisingly silent from the NZ bids on the $20mil license fee request?

NDA dipshit

 

[Perth Red]

NDA dipshit

haha yes that has stopped Vlandys and Perth this week hasnt it?

To qoute him:
Providing further clarification around his comments, V’Landys revealed the “financial aspects of the bids haven’t been sufficient,” adding prospective new entrants into the NRL “need to invest more.”
“They haven’t invested enough,” he said.

I wonder if any of the NZ bids can find an extra $20mill or should we right off any hope of expansion over there?

 

[Gobsmacked]

haha yes that has stopped Vlandys and Perth this week hasnt it?

To qoute him:
Providing further clarification around his comments, V’Landys revealed the “financial aspects of the bids haven’t been sufficient,” adding prospective new entrants into the NRL “need to invest more.”
“They haven’t invested enough,” he said.

I wonder if any of the NZ bids can find an extra $20mill or should we right off any hope of expansion over there?

We'll find out won't we. Patience pettle.

 

[Matiunz]

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Any good ?

Any other good starts about to debut in first grade ?

He looked pretty decent the small stints he got towards the end of this year, still had a few work ons and will be brought in slowly over the next couple of years. Most of the good prospects got a few minutes this year so not sure how many will get a shot this year. Of those yet to debut in the lower grades curious to see how Halves Hansen and Cleary (Jett) progress, like what I’ve seen of Pasikala (wing) and ieremia- Toeava(2nd row/centre) hope the can continue to develop

 

[Maximus]

haha yes that has stopped Vlandys and Perth this week hasnt it?

To qoute him:
Providing further clarification around his comments, V’Landys revealed the “financial aspects of the bids haven’t been sufficient,” adding prospective new entrants into the NRL “need to invest more.”
“They haven’t invested enough,” he said.

I wonder if any of the NZ bids can find an extra $20mill or should we right off any hope of expansion over there?

Good luck to the 50% fan owned team finding $10m from the fans of a team that doesn't even exist.

 

[Wb1234]

He looked pretty decent the small stints he got towards the end of this year, still had a few work ons and will be brought in slowly over the next couple of years. Most of the good prospects got a few minutes this year so not sure how many will get a shot this year. Of those yet to debut in the lower grades curious to see how Halves Hansen and Cleary (Jett) progress, like what I’ve seen of Pasikala (wing) and ieremia- Toeava(2nd row/centre) hope the can continue to develop

If Cleary is any good it will be hard to keep him from going home esp if he’s a 6

 

[flippikat]

Surprisingly silent from the NZ bids on the $20mil license fee request?

Well, so far all of them have managed to avoid the media spotlight since the NDA took effect - and I assume (probably safely) they're happy with flying under the radar like that.

They'll likely reply to any journalist asking for their views on the Bears omnishambles & the prospect of expansion fees with a firm "no comment", and that's their right - heck, their responsibility under a NDA.

The situation with the Bears was different, given the media buzz around that bid.. and it's one of those instances where we're EXTREMELY LUCKY to live outside the RL media scrum that exists in Australia - that we can fly under the radar like this.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Well, so far all of them have managed to avoid the media spotlight since the NDA took effect - and I assume (probably safely) they're happy with flying under the radar like that.

They'll likely reply to any journalist asking for their views on the Bears omnishambles & the prospect of expansion fees with a firm "no comment", and that's their right - heck, their responsibility under a NDA.

The situation with the Bears was different, given the media buzz around that bid.. and it's one of those instances where we're EXTREMELY LUCKY to live outside the RL media scrum that exists in Australia - that we can fly under the radar like this.

Good post.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

haha yes that has stopped Vlandys and Perth this week hasnt it?

To qoute him:
Providing further clarification around his comments, V’Landys revealed the “financial aspects of the bids haven’t been sufficient,” adding prospective new entrants into the NRL “need to invest more.”
“They haven’t invested enough,” he said.

I wonder if any of the NZ bids can find an extra $20mill or should we right off any hope of expansion over there?

Sky NZ may stump up some of it for more NZ content

 

[Bukowski]

Well, so far all of them have managed to avoid the media spotlight since the NDA took effect - and I assume (probably safely) they're happy with flying under the radar like that.

They'll likely reply to any journalist asking for their views on the Bears omnishambles & the prospect of expansion fees with a firm "no comment", and that's their right - heck, their responsibility under a NDA.

The situation with the Bears was different, given the media buzz around that bid.. and it's one of those instances where we're EXTREMELY LUCKY to live outside the RL media scrum that exists in Australia - that we can fly under the radar like this.

Also lucky they could put a bid together and not forced to partner with a nsw club.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Also lucky they could put a bid together and not forced to partner with a nsw club.

Haven't you heard? NSW clubs are the only ones that matter

 

[Diesel]

How ironic that Perth Red’s tax dollars are going towards a PNG bid which could enter before WA

 

[Matiunz]

If Cleary is any good it will be hard to keep him from going home esp if he’s a 6

Yeah I don’t think many are expecting to have him long term

 

[Matua]

Sky NZ may stump up some of it for more NZ content

I highly doubt they would contribute too much as even with the hype train Warriors of the last two years league isn't the main driver of subscriptions for Sky.

They're always willing to pay a bit overs for it though as the Winfield Cup saved the company from going under in the early 90s.

Anyway, regarding the discussions of the licensing fees etc, I thought since the NRL is currently flush with cash at the moment that they wouldn't even be on the table? I thought the plan was to utilise the NRL cash cow to take over the Pacific (including NZ)? Requiring $20m extra on top is just going to make that more difficult.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

I highly doubt they would contribute too much as even with the hype train Warriors of the last two years league isn't the main driver of subscriptions for Sky.

They're always willing to pay a bit overs for it though as the Winfield Cup saved the company from going under in the early 90s.

Anyway, regarding the discussions of the licensing fees etc, I thought since the NRL is currently flush with cash at the moment that they wouldn't even be on the table? I thought the plan was to utilise the NRL cash cow to take over the Pacific (including NZ)? Requiring $20m extra on top is just going to make that more difficult.

Sky is going to pay something extra for another NZ team, not $20M, but also not nothing.

Yes, the RL is on an inevitable path to being the biggest sport in the Oceania region and is already the biggest domestic club Rugby comp in the world. You don't get in without bringing something to the table.

 

[Matua]

Sky is going to pay something extra for another NZ team, not $20M, but also not nothing.

Yes, the RL is on an inevitable path to being the biggest sport in the Oceania region and is already the biggest domestic club Rugby comp in the world. You don't get in without bringing something to the table.

And if Chch can't find the $20m, then they're gone? If it's a hurdle that stops the development of a team then it appears to be a silly hurdle, especially if it's barely a blip to the NRL.

Also, what money is the rest of the Oceania region going to be able to bring to the table? It has to be top down if they want to meet their goals.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

And if Chch can't find the $20m, then they're gone? If it's a hurdle that stops the development of a team then it appears to be a silly hurdle, especially if it's barely a blip to the NRL.

Also, what money is the rest of the Oceania region going to be able to bring to the table? It has to be top down if they want to meet their goals.

The licence fee seems to be more of a 'what can you bring to the table' situation rather than just a straight up 'outbid everyone else with pure cash' scenario.

The Dolphins commited $2M per year to player development for example and because of their location, Fox stumped up $75M because it meant more highly rating Broncos matches on Fox and more SEQ content in general.

Christchurch could easily demonstrate 'buy-in' by committing to invest in more South Island player pathways which is a new playing pool for the NRL (very appealing), get Sky to commit to chipping in whatever they can and the NRL may be more than happy with that. Way better than Perth arrogantly writing $0