Next TV deal discussion 2028 -

[Perth Red]

Fox was extended in May 2020, well before Dolphins came in.

A 17th team came in which changed the conditions of that deal, Why would it not cost more?

The announcement has said over $400m but never the actual total.

Extra content does that, The women's CBA calls for a 20 week comp, That will bring in more coin. Team 18 likely comes in during this
Deal too. So that cuts the difference too

The $2billion announcement was made in dec ‘21, AFTER Dolphins were announced as team 18.

 

[Wb1234]

The $2billion announcement was made in dec ‘21, AFTER Dolphins were announced as team 18.

Afl red working hard on this thread

 

[Perth Red]

Afl red working hard on this thread

Leave the conversation to the adults

 

[Wb1234]

Leave the conversation to the adults

Wookie and lambuck stopped responding

 

[Iamback]

The $2billion announcement was made in dec ‘21, AFTER Dolphins were announced as team 18.

According to the AFR that is $2bn cash only.

Add the Contra and it is closer to $430m

 

[Iamback]

Which goes with any google search of Ch9 NRL deal.

Always adds the contra after the figure in any article

 

[Perth Red]

According to the AFR that is $2bn cash only.

Add the Contra and it is closer to $430m

We’ve been through this, no sports org ever, and I mean ever, announces a cash only media deal. It’s why we have contra, to pad deals out and make them look better when they get announced. Why announce a $2bill deal when you can announce a $2.15billion deal? Never known a sports org choose to look worse than it has to.

For that to be true it would be cash components
$115mill ch9
$27 mill ish sky nz
$260 mill cash fox

the last tv deal fox paid around $220mill cash and contra. Vlandys has admitted he gave them a sweet deal this time around.

 

[Wb1234]

According to the AFR that is $2bn cash only.

Add the Contra and it is closer to $430m

Wow Perth red was talking bs about tv deals

who’d have thought that ?

 

[Pneuma]

Meanwhile in England

Amazon and Apple hold Super League talks with evolving deal in the works

The current broadcast deal expires at the end of the season.

www.examinerlive.co.uk

 

[Wb1234]

Meanwhile in England

Amazon and Apple hold Super League talks with evolving deal in the works

The current broadcast deal expires at the end of the season.

www.examinerlive.co.uk

Hopefully sky go back to paying 40 million pa they need it

and channel four will continue its coverage

they need more games on fta

 

[Iamback]

Wow Perth red was talking bs about tv deals

who’d have thought that ?

The graphic even says you can't compare deals, due to the complex nature but $400m cash is a decent haul and not the dud deal people say

 

[Perth Red]

Wow Perth red was talking bs about tv deals

who’d have thought that ?

go out and play, the adults are talking

 

[Wb1234]

The graphic even says you can't compare deals, due to the complex nature but $400m cash is a decent haul and not the dud deal people say

Doesn’t suit certain peoples anti rugby league agenda

430 million is more than afl receives from seven and foxtel

 

[Perth Red]

Yeh lets announce our $2.15bilion deal as a $2billion deal. makes total sense lol

 

[Wb1234]

Yeh lets announce our $2.15bilion deal as a $2billion deal. makes total sense lol

If it’s a 50 50 call the benefit of the doubt should go to rugby league

not against it

 

[Perth Red]

If it’s a 50 50 call the benefit of the doubt should go to rugby league

not against it

But its not 50-50 probability, NO DEAL EVER has been announced as cash only in any sports code. that AFR article is the only one that claimed that amount was all cash.

Surely if Fox had paid $260mill cash Vlandys would have been all over it when he was under fire after the AFL deal? No mention of a record breaking Fox deal was made at a time when it would have backed him out of a corner.

From the NRl themselves
The NRL have announced that revenue from the game's three broadcast partners - Nine, Fox Sports and Sky NZ - will total more than $400m per annum for five years from 2023 until 2027.

the game will now have over $400m in media rights revenue from 2023," Abdo said.

 

[Wb1234]

But its not 50-50 probability, NO DEAL EVER has been announced as cash only in any sports code. that AFR article is the only one that claimed that amount was all cash.

Surely if Fox had paid $260mill cash Vlandys would have been all over it when he was under fire after the AFL deal? No mention of a record breaking Fox deal was made at a time when it would have backed him out of a corner.

From the NRl themselves
The NRL have announced that revenue from the game's three broadcast partners - Nine, Fox Sports and Sky NZ - will total more than $400m per annum for five years from 2023 until 2027.

the game will now have over $400m in media rights revenue from 2023," Abdo said.

Yes it it

any chance to talk down rugby league you take it

lambuck showed you a link which backs up what’s he says

 

[colly]

Cmon you are better than that.

When has AFL ever called it TV rights?

It is referred to as broadcast or media rights, Which is correct. Telstra getting revenue from AFL website is different to what the TV networks pay to show the sport on TV

What you say is true. It should be Broadcast rights only to determine who won the TV deal discussion.
By the way how you give the right to companies like TV to show our game is by liciecing them or as contractual lawyer way of accounting, it called licensed to broadcast. That's what said at the end of the American gridiron game, The NFL holds all licensed rights ( which they grant to Broadcast Companies )to the showing of games and it's illegal to show record bla bla bla.

Now onto the Telstra, or AFL Media as show in the the AFL accounts that I previously put up. MR dRED correctly placed the licensing of Betting/turn over towards the NRL. That's true, otherwise the NRL total amount for broadcast would be smaller. But the AFL also (either) put licensing of betting operators in their total amount for broadcast media. I can be sure of this as the AFL is in the last year of the Old/Old deal ie 2017-2022, and we have the link that $54 million dollars would be discounted yearly from Broadcast /licensed 2020 to 2022. So when they have the figure $396 million in must be $54 million less to cover for Covid reductions. It's been well understood that the AFL deal was $417 m pa with $17m pa contra= $2.5 billion over ^ years. So ordinary the AFL would have got close to $400 million every year until 2022 but the $54 millin yearly discount applied to end years.

Seven and Foxtel lock in revised AFL deals

It's believed Seven will save around $70 million on rights fees over the next three years, while Foxtel will save around $90 million.

www.afr.com

But the above says....
The AFL has agreed to a roughly 13 per cent discount of its rights fee of $415 million per season under the current agreement which was set to end at the end of the 2022. That means the sport will take just under a $54 million per year discount on its broadcast rights fees or a little over $160 million until the end of 2022.

We don't know where the $54 million dollars came from with the AFL deal to make their total, which was $396 million.
Whatever the way it makes the NRL the winner when we subtract the $40m for betting and $12m (supplied by you) to make a total of $52 million, which two million less.
So in a straight dogfight on purely broadcast/Licensed totals the NRL
NRL Is total reported $409 m less $52m Jerseys and Betting licenses equals $357 million
AFL $396pa for 2022 ( before covid discounts) , or total reported less the $54 covid discount to be $342 million

So total broadcast/ licensed 'fees' for the NRL equals $409 total less lic/fees gambling /jerseys $357 for the NRL
while
For the AFL total fees Broadcast licensed was $342m with a ($54 million) unaccounted...to get a total reported as $396 million.
So again it looks like the NRL won as proven in the Broadcast/licensed fees for the year 2022 just gone by when we account by the annual reports and know discounts and other licensing fees.

https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/about/annual-reports/nrl-gen22_7113-annual-report-2022_lr.pdf
https://resources.afl.com.au/afl/do...960142/2022-AFL_AR_Digital-Doc_150dpi_Low.pdf

 

[Iamback]

Yes it it

any chance to talk down rugby league you take it

lambuck showed you a link which backs up what’s he says

Nah you have it wrong, A Finance newspaper is going to be part of a petty code war. It literally said the 2 can't be compared so it wasn't to take sides with anyone

 

[Perth Red]

Yes it it

any chance to talk down rugby league you take it

lambuck showed you a link which backs up what’s he says

Im not sure you understand the concept of probablility lol. Based on history and what has happened since the announcement its 80-20 at best that the NRL decided to announce a cash only deal and left $150mill in contra off the release and subsequent conversations about the deal.

We'll know a bit more next year when this years financials come out and we can see how much the licensing line increases by.