Next TV deal discussion 2028 -

[titoelcolombiano]

Agreed. Content is king. A lot of fans will watch women's and men's games of their own club back to back. Suddenly, you turn a 2 hour viewer into a 4 hour viewer.

As to where the slots go, it will depend on the slots that the mens comp takes up in the next broadcast deal.

But I'd love to see a dedicated FTA slot where you can double up on games and target states. For instance right now, 4pm Saturday as a news lead in on FTA is up for grabs. You schedule something Broncos vs Titans in QLD and Eels vs Roosters in NSW and maximise the audience appeal.

Eventually they will get to the same number of teams as the men's comp. In the mean time, I'd like to see some byes introduced and extend the length of the season. That way they're not clashing as much with men's games but also extend the appeal. For example, going back to 4 games a round now means you could extend the comp by 2-3 weeks, making it an 11-12 week regular season.

Then eventually you'll have a 20 team comp played over 27 weeks, with each team playing 19 regular season games and 8 byes. You'd average 7 games a round, on top of the 10 men's games. Effectively 34 hours of actual game time coverage each week, in addition to all the other talking head waffle.

I like the simultaneous games idea to appeal to multiple markets which you'd have to do if both men and women's comps have 20 teams and you are playing double headers to create a 4 hour broadcast.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

2028 seems much better time line BUT 2 at once doesn't fix the bye situation. So you'd still need team 20 not long after

20 probably follows in 2032 ready for the new broadcast deal starting 2033

 

[docbrown]

So at a recent meeting, a couple of Paramount execs announced that Paramount+ will likely be folded in with another streamer. Basically, just an IP content shift. I was skeptical of their interest in sports rights any way after the A-League draw down but this makes it even more unlikely that they're going to contend for NRL rights.

 

[Mother Nature's Son]

So at a recent meeting, a couple of Paramount execs announced that Paramount+ will likely be folded in with another streamer. Basically, just an IP content shift. I was skeptical of their interest in sports rights any way after the A-League draw down but this makes it even more unlikely that they're going to contend for NRL rights.

That`s sounds like a disaster for us.

 

[Iamback]

So at a recent meeting, a couple of Paramount execs announced that Paramount+ will likely be folded in with another streamer. Basically, just an IP content shift. I was skeptical of their interest in sports rights any way after the A-League draw down but this makes it even more unlikely that they're going to contend for NRL rights.

Yep. It is

Stan/ch9
Fox/ch9

That will bid as it always has been

 

[Wb1234]

Yep. It is

Stan/ch9
Fox/ch9

That will bid as it always has been

Stan hasn’t that will be the big difference

seven night throw a bid to keep nine honest but fta isn’t that important in the overall deal

 

[docbrown]

That`s sounds like a disaster for us.

The streamer that they're merging with is still a mystery. It all depends if they've got a sports focus and an Australian focus. That said Ten will still throw in a price pump bid at the bare minimum.

 

[docbrown]

Yep. It is

Stan/ch9
Fox/ch9

That will bid as it always has been

I hate Channel 9 but Stan/9 is what I'd put my money on. 9's business model depends on them getting the full rights package.

 

[Iamback]

I hate Channel 9 but Stan/9 is what I'd put my money on. 9's business model depends on them getting the full rights package.

Stan are unable to get Rugby into Pubs and clubs not sure NRL would be different.

 

[Wb1234]

Stan are unable to get Rugby into Pubs and clubs not sure NRL would be different.

Pvl stopped union going into pubs and clubs

 

[Iamback]

Pvl stopped union going into pubs and clubs

No he stopped them going onto Sky channel, Stan could go directly there but haven't been able to yet

 

[docbrown]

Stan are unable to get Rugby into Pubs and clubs not sure NRL would be different.

No one at 9 really thought there'd be much interest in something that rates in the tens of thousands, so they failed to set up their venues product in time. Then there was a lack of consultation re: racing that blew it out of the water.

If 9 gets NRL, every pub will get a Stan venues package or it will be on a special channel encoded channel.

Also I'm not sure if you guys know that 9/Fairfax are looking to set up a new news channel.

 

[docbrown]

Posted this in the expansion threads but it also belong here:

If I was 9/Stan and I had full rights I'd do the following on Friday night:

5:15 Stan: NRLW game - particularly for Pubs
6:00 Channel 9: News
6:55 Channel 9 News/Stan - end the Friday news broadcast with a 5 minute preview of the Friday double headers within the news itself - no need to do it in the actual broadcast.
7:00 9/Stan: NRL Coverage start
7:01 9/Stan: NRL Game 1 (family game) kicks off
7:45 Game 1 approximate half time starts
7:55 Game 1 approximate second half starts -- there is potential to expand this by 5 minutes to increase ad revenue
8:40-ish Approximate end of game 1 (except for golden point scenario which is rare) -- then about 20 seconds after the first game ends, at the second ground all the players are already on the field and the signal is sent to the other ref--
8:40-ish 9/Stan: NRL Game 2 (later game) kicks off -- (prior to this at that ground there was a 7pm NRLW game)
9:25 Game 2 approximate half time starts - Game 2 has an extended half time to make up for reduced ad space in game 1
9:40 Game 2 approximate second half starts
10:25-ish Game 2 ends
10:30-11:00 Post game coverage of both games

Every week: Out of the 4 teams, at least 1 Queensland team, 1 Sydney team, 1 Melbourne/Perth team (Perth in later games only to air at 6:40pm start in WA) & 1 other team (NZ teams only in early game as away teams so it's a 9pm NZ kickoff at the latest - instead most NZ games would be Saturday night 5:30pm EST/7:30pm NZ).

If WA have an occasional Friday night home game, they can do 7pm kickoff - 9pm second game East Coast start.

Covering 3-4 metros/regions every Friday.

4 hours of FTA coverage - on par with fumbleball - BUT - 200-220 minutes is actual game time, to their 165ish minutes.

 

[Iamback]

Posted this in the expansion threads but it also belong here:

If I was 9/Stan and I had full rights I'd do the following on Friday night:

5:15 Stan: NRLW game - particularly for Pubs
6:00 Channel 9: News
6:55 Channel 9 News/Stan - end the Friday news broadcast with a 5 minute preview of the Friday double headers within the news itself - no need to do it in the actual broadcast.
7:00 9/Stan: NRL Coverage start
7:01 9/Stan: NRL Game 1 (family game) kicks off
7:45 Game 1 approximate half time starts
7:55 Game 1 approximate second half starts -- there is potential to expand this by 5 minutes to increase ad revenue
8:40-ish Approximate end of game 1 (except for golden point scenario which is rare) -- then about 20 seconds after the first game ends, at the second ground all the players are already on the field and the signal is sent to the other ref--
8:40-ish 9/Stan: NRL Game 2 (later game) kicks off -- (prior to this at that ground there was a 7pm NRLW game)
9:25 Game 2 approximate half time starts - Game 2 has an extended half time to make up for reduced ad space in game 1
9:40 Game 2 approximate second half starts
10:25-ish Game 2 ends
10:30-11:00 Post game coverage of both games

Every week: Out of the 4 teams, at least 1 Queensland team, 1 Sydney team, 1 Melbourne/Perth team (Perth in later games only to air at 6:40pm start in WA) & 1 other team (NZ teams only in early game as away teams so it's a 9pm NZ kickoff at the latest - instead most NZ games would be Saturday night 5:30pm EST/7:30pm NZ).

If WA have an occasional Friday night home game, they can do 7pm kickoff - 9pm second game East Coast start.

Covering 3-4 metros/regions every Friday.

4 hours of FTA coverage - on par with fumbleball - BUT - 200-220 minutes is actual game time, to their 165ish minutes.

I think need to try for the NRLW to be part of the offseason to build up content but aside from that looks good

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Yeah, 10 will be in the hunt for the rights

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/next-in-the-firing-line-crisis-could-switch-off-network-10-in-tasmania-and-nt-regional-wa-services-bailed-out/news-story/c4307d2687539b53d6054a8d6032f155

 

[Captain Apollo]

Posted this in the expansion threads but it also belong here:

If I was 9/Stan and I had full rights I'd do the following on Friday night:

5:15 Stan: NRLW game - particularly for Pubs
6:00 Channel 9: News
6:55 Channel 9 News/Stan - end the Friday news broadcast with a 5 minute preview of the Friday double headers within the news itself - no need to do it in the actual broadcast.
7:00 9/Stan: NRL Coverage start
7:01 9/Stan: NRL Game 1 (family game) kicks off
7:45 Game 1 approximate half time starts
7:55 Game 1 approximate second half starts -- there is potential to expand this by 5 minutes to increase ad revenue
8:40-ish Approximate end of game 1 (except for golden point scenario which is rare) -- then about 20 seconds after the first game ends, at the second ground all the players are already on the field and the signal is sent to the other ref--
8:40-ish 9/Stan: NRL Game 2 (later game) kicks off -- (prior to this at that ground there was a 7pm NRLW game)
9:25 Game 2 approximate half time starts - Game 2 has an extended half time to make up for reduced ad space in game 1
9:40 Game 2 approximate second half starts
10:25-ish Game 2 ends
10:30-11:00 Post game coverage of both games

Every week: Out of the 4 teams, at least 1 Queensland team, 1 Sydney team, 1 Melbourne/Perth team (Perth in later games only to air at 6:40pm start in WA) & 1 other team (NZ teams only in early game as away teams so it's a 9pm NZ kickoff at the latest - instead most NZ games would be Saturday night 5:30pm EST/7:30pm NZ).

If WA have an occasional Friday night home game, they can do 7pm kickoff - 9pm second game East Coast start.

Covering 3-4 metros/regions every Friday.

4 hours of FTA coverage - on par with fumbleball - BUT - 200-220 minutes is actual game time, to their 165ish minutes.

Channel 9 won't do that kind of coverage on a Friday night. They are too wedded to the news going from 6pm till 7pm and then having A Current Affair. They have been implacably stubborn in changing that since it got rugby league tv rights in 1992.

I mean, look at 2008 when they ignored contractual obligations to televise live the Warriors v Roosters finals match which was being played in Auckland. They stuck to the news followed by A Current Affair and showed the finals match on delay. If they are so willing to thumb its nose at contractual obligations, do you think they will voluntarily change? I don't.

 

[Chins get the wins]

Channel 9 won't do that kind of coverage on a Friday night. They are too wedded to the news going from 6pm till 7pm and then having A Current Affair. They have been implacably stubborn in changing that since it got rugby league tv rights in 1992.

I mean, look at 2008 when they ignored contractual obligations to televise live the Warriors v Roosters finals match which was being played in Auckland. They stuck to the news followed by A Current Affair and showed the finals match on delay. If they are so willing to thumb its nose at contractual obligations, do you think they will voluntarily change? I don't.

Surely anyone watching ACA in 2008 is dead now

 

[docbrown]

Channel 9 won't do that kind of coverage on a Friday night. They are too wedded to the news going from 6pm till 7pm and then having A Current Affair. They have been implacably stubborn in changing that since it got rugby league tv rights in 1992.

I mean, look at 2008 when they ignored contractual obligations to televise live the Warriors v Roosters finals match which was being played in Auckland. They stuck to the news followed by A Current Affair and showed the finals match on delay. If they are so willing to thumb its nose at contractual obligations, do you think they will voluntarily change? I don't.

Compare the NRL demos for 16-39s to ACA's 16-39s. The NRL's 16-39s is a higher percentage of their overall audience, whereas ACA's majority viewership is over 55s and getting older year on year.

What does this mean?

In 10-15 years, more of the NRL's audience will still be alive and more of ACA's will be dead.

 

[docbrown]

Surely anyone watching ACA in 2008 is dead now

I'd estimate about a third of the ACA 2008 audience is now dead.

 

[Billythekid]

I think need to try for the NRLW to be part of the offseason to build up content but aside from that looks good

I assume the problem is the same reason the NRL is a winter sport. In an ideal world the NRLW could fully run in the off season but then they’d be forced to play in the same weather we avoid for the men.