Next TV rights deal part 2

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

dickheads like Politis should be pissed off from the game

only interested in getting money for their clubs and want no expansion at all

they also meddle with the ARLC with stupid threats

the sooner wankers like him kick the bucket the better

DSmith was trying to implement limits to the amount of time people could serve as chairperson of clubs...

Hopefully Grant hasnt been scared off

 

[El Diablo]

There's a reason Telstra paid $150mill for NRL and $250mill for afl, and it's got a shed load to do with the perception of being the national code imp. Your kidding yourself if you think it doesn't matter and in the future the two codes will remain equal forever more in their geographic strongholds. There is a war going on to be the nations main footy code, sadly NRL is playing a 20 year catch up and shows little sign they want to take the fight to the afl anytime soon.

you hae nfi

this post proves it

 

[Chief_Chujo]

DSmith was trying to implement limits to the amount of time people could serve as chairperson of clubs...

Hopefully Grant hasnt been scared off

Smith was trying to do a lot of things, but it seems he rocked the boat too much. This rushed deal show grant got spooked imo. I just hope a good chunk of this TV money goes to grass roots and expansion before the greedy f**ks get their hands on it.

 

[insert.pause]

Six months ago we would all be jumping up and down about the prospect of a deal getting close to or exceeding the much vaunted $2bn figure. I think because it became such a big saga it set us up to be disappointed by some unrealistic expectations of securing a pound of flesh from Newscorp.

Despite everything we will end up basically only a ninth game short of the AFL deal, with now the same dedicated coverage on foxtel. The 6pm Friday game is a questionable decision but overall the deal holds up well. Had the NRL disclosed the value of the 'option' should the game expand and I don't think people would be feeling so short changed in comparison to the AFL deal.

 

[Johnny88]

Plus there will be more dedicated NRL shows on Fox who knows mabe more than the AFL channel.


Fox will have good pre and post shows. I cant get into AFL but Fox do a great job on that channel hopefully they do the same for NRL.


If it results in more subscriber's for Foxtel than the next tv deal will be worth much more.
The AFL channel increased subscribers in Vic,WA and SA.

 

[Perth Red]

Six months ago we would all be jumping up and down about the prospect of a deal getting close to or exceeding the much vaunted $2bn figure. I think because it became such a big saga it set us up to be disappointed by some unrealistic expectations of securing a pound of flesh from Newscorp.

Despite everything we will end up basically only a ninth game short of the AFL deal, with now the same dedicated coverage on foxtel. The 6pm Friday game is a questionable decision but overall the deal holds up well. Had the NRL disclosed the value of the 'option' should the game expand and I don't think people would be feeling so short changed in comparison to the AFL deal.

If there was such value in the ninth game then why not announce expansion before negations started?

Still trying to figure out if nine paid $625mill or $900mill to NRL? Telstra was the real questionable decision $150mill for NRL to $250mill for afl is very hard to explain away.

$ value you can make some arguments for or against depending on how happy you are to accept us receiving less than afl but add in the fta coverage and dumb KO times of Thursday night and Friday 6pm and it isn't a great deal for fans. Still Grant got his cash before December 2nd so no doubt he will placate the clubs with a big hand out and keep his position of power.

 

[Johnny88]

Telstra was the real questionable decision $150mill for NRL to $250mill for afl is very hard to explain away.

Telstra get exclusive rights to 9 AFL matches. They only get 5 exclusive matches to NRL. Smith gave Nine 3 game streaming rights.
You pay extra to have exclusive rights.
Blame Dave Smith.

 

[insert.pause]

If there was such value in the ninth game then why not announce expansion before negations started?

Still trying to figure out if nine paid $625mill or $900mill to NRL? Telstra was the real questionable decision $150mill for NRL to $250mill for afl is very hard to explain away.

$ value you can make some arguments for or against depending on how happy you are to accept us receiving less than afl but add in the fta coverage and dumb KO times of Thursday night and Friday 6pm and it isn't a great deal for fans. Still Grant got his cash before December 2nd so no doubt he will placate the clubs with a big hand out and keep his position of power.

Because they haven't decided to expand yet?! Drr! That there's value in expansion, namely a second Brisbane side, is accepted, which is why there's an option for it included in the new contract, but they aren't making the decision solely based on money but also the impact it will have on the rest of the competition.

If you still have to ask how much Nine are paying you really don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Johnny88]

NRL can go global, says Robert Thomson of News Corp

Mr Thomson has laid down a blueprint for an ambitious rugby league global expansion during a closed-door meeting at the offices of Sydney law firm Clayton Utz this week.
While negotiating the NRL’s record $1.8 billion TV deal, the ­native Victorian and Essendon tragic who recently helped clinch the AFL’s historic $2.598bn rights agreement, said he would take the code to a new level by leveraging the pulling power of Mr Murdoch’s newspapers and television networks.
Mr Thomson, who flew into Sydney this week from his New York base to play a key role in the late night talks, issued the clarion call in a closed-door meeting on Wednesday evening at Clayton Utz. Mr Thomson will help the NRL partner with other News Corp companies around the globe to broadcast highlights packages and possibly live matches.
There is a belief the NRL could even stage matches overseas or perhaps move to connect different clubs’ pre-season tours and competitions around the world.
While the staggering size of the new TV deal, which could surpass $2bn once international rights are sold, means there is no economic need to play matches overseas, there is a great deal of enthusiasm for the idea among commissioners and the broadcast partners.
Speaking to The Weekend Australian after a press conference to unveil the deal, commission chairman John Grant confirmed the strategy was high on his agenda under the 2018-2022 deal, as it represented a “big opportunity”.
“We will go back to Europe where we have a rugby league base to play off. News is very keen on Asia and we’re very keen on the US, which is the 21st Century Fox platform,” Mr Grant said.
“News Corp will use its worldwide resources to take NRL on to the global stage where we believe over time it has incredible appeal and can attract an army of new fans.”
Dubbing the deal a “transformative” moment for Fox Sports, giving fans live coverage of every game in each round and a dedicated NRL channel, Fox Sports chief executive Patrick Delany put his stamp of approval on the plan for global expansion.
“We will see what we can do to very deliberately push NRL on to the digital platforms of our newspaper mastheads and 21st Century Fox’s assets,” Mr Delany said. “There’s plenty of room for growth and expansion of the NRL even in our own country. In New Zealand there’s massive ­potential.”
The $1.8bn deal, flagged by The Australian, is 70 per cent higher than the last broadcast rights deal. As part of the deal, Telstra Premiership matches will be played five days a week next year — from Thursday to Monday inclusive — before reverting to four days a week (Thursday to Sunday) in 2017. The Nine Network will telecast games live and free to air on Thursday and Friday nights and Sunday afternoon next year. Fox Sports will show all eight games every weekend, including five exclusive telecasts.
Nine’s investment will amount to $625 million for the five-year agreement, News Corp will invest $1bn and Telstra $175m for the digital broadcast rights.
Mr Grant was joined at the press conference by News Corp Australia chief executive Peter Tonagh, Mr Delany, new Nine chief Hugh Marks and Telstra chief Andrew Penn.
It was a different picture from when former NRL chief executive Dave Smith announced a $925m deal by himself in August.
That decision placed the talks with Fox Sports in jeopardy until Mr Smith announced his resignation two months after signing the contract. A four-month stand-off ended this week following a decisive intervention by former News Corp Australia chief Julian Clarke to bring all the parties to the negotiating table.
Mr Marks said the revised broadcast deal hit the “sweet spot” as the additional broadcast partners were likely to put more value back into the agreement.
Mr Tonagh said the deal was “outstanding” and for the first time in the history of the game would give fans live coverage of every game each round.
“It’s a big win for the fans, and a big win for the clubs, and News is delighted to be a part of it,” he said. “The deal affirms Fox Sports as the home of NRL, and the premium destination for sports coverage in Australia.”
Mr Penn said the deal extended the partnership between the telco and the NRL to be one of the longest-running in Australia.

News Corp Australia is the publisher of The Australian.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...son-of-news-corp/story-e6frg6n6-1227626165641

 

[Johnny88]

ARL boss John Grant ready to stare down threat from NRL clubs

ARL Commission chairman John Grant has sounded a word of warning to expectant clubs in the wake of the game’s $1.8 billion broadcasting deal by insisting he and his fellow commissioners will continue to do what is best for the entire code rather than prioritise any single stakeholder. Grant will be armed with the biggest broadcasting deal in the game's history when he meets club chairmen next week to continue talks over future funding.
Grant also denied the finalisation of broadcasting talks had anything to do with the departure of chief executive Dave Smith, whose decision to freeze Foxtel out of initial discussions led to angst between the NRL and News Corp Australia.
Talks reignited when former News chief executive Julian Clarke contacted Grant and they reached a climax earlier this week when all parties entered a three-day exclusivity period of ­negotiation.
When it was put to him that the recommencement of talks had coincided with Smith’s departure, Grant said: “Dave Smith resigned. Dave Smith resigned because Dave Smith made the decision he had done three years and he had contributed as much as he could.


“I don’t think it is about personalities. The initial decision to do the deal with Nine was a great deal at the time. But you respond to things that change.
“We have created the catalyst. But at the end of the day they have worked out a deal that works for them. What we do know is we got a great deal. It is a great outcome. You can’t argue about that.
“We’re on a par with AFL. Everyone says that and that is right. Depends on the maths. If you go per hour of football, it is a better deal. It is not a competition but if you apply the maths to it, that’s the outcome you get.”
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...t-from-nrl-clubs/story-fnca0von-1227626257554

ARL chairman John Grant signing a new five-year broadcast deal.

 

[insert.pause]

Same sort of nonsense they were shovelling about the AFL deal and NSW & QLD - but for some reason they stopped short of dreams of AFL internationally... Victorians won't like that.

 

[Johnny88]

News Corp back in love with rugby league to the tune of $1 billion
News had $1 billion worth of reasons to rekindle its affection for rugby league to go along with that it has already for the AFL.

As incoming News Australia boss Peter Tonagh​ said: "We love both our children equally now."
Discussions between News the NRL and Nine heated up this week with executives from all three locked in three successive days and nights of negotiations that ultimately led to Friday's confirmation that Fox Sports would telecast all eight matches live and buy back exclusive access to the Saturday match from Nine for $300 million over five years.
That came, NRL chairman John Grant revealed on Friday, after Tonagh's outgoing predecessor Julian Clarke recently called Grant to initiate a return to the bargaining table. "I commend News for that and it was absolutely the right thing to do," said Grant, who said the Nine deal had ultimately been the "catalyst" for the deal signed on Friday that meant "at the end of the day all the partners got what they wanted".
For News in particular, it seems that pragmatism ultimately ruled the day, as it usually does – in concert with a big cheque – when it comes to sports broadcast rights. It is better to have the rights and pay a lot for them, than not have them at all.
So keen was News to grab rugby league – a key reason for subscribers to take up Foxtel subscriptions – it has even agreed to pay an additional $20 million in both 2016 and 2017 to Nine for the right to show the three games live it doesn't currently telecast under the existing contract.
Patrick Delany told AFR Weekend. "This is the best deal we've ever had for NRL and one of the best we have for any of our sports. It is all about 'live and local' and 'Aussie sports for Aussie fans' ".



That includes having a clean feed for those games being simulcast with Nine, meaning Fox Sports can run its own advertising on a dedicated rugby league channel. Nine has extracted a big price from News for that, but it is a canny move by Delany, using the savings from losing the English Premier League rights to Optus recently.
And when the dust settles, the sheer amount of local sports Fox Sports will be broadcasting shows just how crucial sport is to the future of News. That love affair will endure for some time yet.
http://www.afr.com/business/sport/n...ague-to-the-tune-of-1-billion-20151126-gl9d43

 

[Johnny88]

Same sort of nonsense they were shovelling about the AFL deal and NSW & QLD - but for some reason they stopped short of dreams of AFL internationally... Victorians won't like that.

Yeah they seem to go overboard after the deal is sealed. Interesting Fox will have a clean feed of Nine's games. Ch9 did the best out of this deal by far. Plus 40mill in 2016,17 for simulcast rights.

 

[hineyrulz]

ARL boss John Grant ready to stare down threat from NRL clubs

ARL Commission chairman John Grant has sounded a word of warning to expectant clubs in the wake of the game?s $1.8 billion broadcasting deal by insisting he and his fellow commissioners will continue to do what is best for the entire code rather than prioritise any single stakeholder. Grant will be armed with the biggest broadcasting deal in the game's history when he meets club chairmen next week to continue talks over future funding.
Grant also denied the finalisation of broadcasting talks had anything to do with the departure of chief executive Dave Smith, whose decision to freeze Foxtel out of initial discussions led to angst between the NRL and News Corp Australia.
Talks reignited when former News chief executive Julian Clarke contacted Grant and they reached a climax earlier this week when all parties entered a three-day exclusivity period of ­negotiation.
When it was put to him that the recommencement of talks had coincided with Smith?s departure, Grant said: ?Dave Smith resigned. Dave Smith resigned because Dave Smith made the decision he had done three years and he had contributed as much as he could.


?I don?t think it is about personalities. The initial decision to do the deal with Nine was a great deal at the time. But you respond to things that change.
?We have created the catalyst. But at the end of the day they have worked out a deal that works for them. What we do know is we got a great deal. It is a great outcome. You can?t argue about that.
?We?re on a par with AFL. Everyone says that and that is right. Depends on the maths. If you go per hour of football, it is a better deal. It is not a competition but if you apply the maths to it, that?s the outcome you get.?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...t-from-nrl-clubs/story-fnca0von-1227626257554

ARL chairman John Grant signing a new five-year broadcast deal.

:lol: Do whats best for the code???? That friday night slot a 6pm is really whats best for the code. You f**ked up chump, talking tough now but you shit yourself and were more worried about club bosses then what was best for the game.

 

[Perth Red]

If you consider per hour of football? Lol. We got significantly less total cash from its Australian rights despite being the most popular sport, got to love spin

NRL $1.745 billion (-$50million value of naming rights)
AFL $2.08billion

How can you say nearly $400mill price difference is as good a deal?

 

[miguel de cervantes]

As incoming News Australia boss Peter Tonagh​ said: "We love both our children equally now."


their children?

:evil::twisted:

just so wrong for News to say that.

 

[Perth Red]

you hae nfi

this post proves it

Come on then why did Telstra pay $100mill less for NRL?

 

[HayneKloppter]

nrl 200m/5 season- 40m a season
g.ayfl 250m/6 seasons - 42m a season.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...illion-tv-rights-jackpot-20151126-gl8zod.html

 

[miguel de cervantes]

I can't help but feeling that the big increases for AFL and NRL are partly if not largely due to a weak $AU. Most of Newscorp's revenue would be in $US. Considering the last TV deals were signed when the exchange rate was hovering close to $1.10 and this has now fallen to circa 70c, that's a 40 odd percent increase in AUD sums for exactly the same amount of US cash. Taking inflation, albeit weak, into account, the increase in US dollar terms for the NRL contract would be reasonably tame.

When Newscorp finally get around to signing SANZAR's contracts, which are done in $US, it will be interesting to see how that goes.

 

[Perth Red]

That $200m includes competition naming rights doesn't it? That is worth at least $50million.
The afl deal is $300mill for 6 years.

At best we are $10mill a year behind, if naming rights are included we are $20mill a year behind! So come on who can explain this value discrepancy? El over to you lol.