Next TV rights deal

[ParraEelsNRL]

NRL at the moment ?

$925 M - locked in
$275 M - Telstra streaming, app etc (including naming rights)
$750 M - FOX
$50M TVNZ

Thats $2B - ($400 m a year)

$18M less than AFL per annum

AFL has to pay for about 180 more players for the comp to happen...

they be on min $100k ...

so all square...

We already get 100 million for sky NZ.

 

[Cletus]

Not sure if this has been posted but wow what a joke. I imagine this would make up quite a bit of the News contra.

The AFL has been promised greater exposure in the northern states under an "editorial commitment" made by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp in the league's new broadcast deal.
The AFL announced on Tuesday it had agreed to an unprecedented $2.508 billion deal with Fox Sports and Channel 7.
It followed a controversial "shutout" for the NRL's broadcast rights, which led to Murdoch's intervention in the AFL's negotiations.
AFL boss Gillon McLachlan told 3AW the new deal involved a set amount of media content in the previously rugby dominated states.

"That's certainly part of the deal," McLachlan revealed on Sports Today.
"I won't talk specifics, but there's a multi-million dollar editorial commitment to NSW and Queensland in this deal for our game."

http://www.3aw.com.au/news/afl-set-...l-commitment-in-new-deal-20150818-gj26t1.html

 

[seanoff]

If what kent said on 360 is even remotely right the nrl executive (all of them)should be fired on the spot.

Basically said that the NRL blindsided foxsports and telstra with that deal with 9.

Supposedly telstra did not even get a shot at the digital rights for the games 9 is broadcasting.

And fox had nfi the deal with 9 was that close and had basically not even met with the nrl about the rights.

Take that with a grain of salt. But if there is some truth :crazy:

 

[elbusto]

Basically this says they will plunge millions of dollars to force a game down the throat of an uninterested audience. Remarkable

 

[Perth Red]

You're such a f**king AFL troll.

The AFL have had absolutly every advantage here in NSW for so long in the media, they're already having Auskick clinics every chance they get. What are they going to do next? Introduce a Newcastle and North Queensland AFL team? f**king bring it.

They can keep flushing their cash down the toilet whilst pissing off their clubs with wasted cash on a fairy tale of national dominance.

Oh here we go. Refuse to look through rose tinted glasses so must be a troll.

Tell me oh wise one, who was the best supported team in Sydney last year?

 

[I Bleed Maroon]

If what kent said on 360 is even remotely right the nrl executive (all of them)should be fired on the spot.

Basically said that the NRL blindsided foxsports and telstra with that deal with 9.

Supposedly telstra did not even get a shot at the digital rights for the games 9 is broadcasting.

And fox had nfi the deal with 9 was that close and had basically not even met with the nrl about the rights.

Take that with a grain of salt. But if there is some truth :crazy:

Yeah nah, the fact that Kent is on Murdochs payroll doesn't factor in to this view at all.

 

[t-ba]

Oh here we go. Refuse to look through rose tinted glasses so must be a troll.

Tell me oh wise one, who was the best supported team in Sydney last year?

Souths.

 

[NrlCoach]

Not sure if this has been posted but wow what a joke. I imagine this would make up quite a bit of the News contra.



http://www.3aw.com.au/news/afl-set-...l-commitment-in-new-deal-20150818-gj26t1.html

1. looks like the AFL are going to rig their competition for the loins,suns, swans and giants to win premierships :sarcasm:

2. More bagging rugby league articles

 

[insert.pause]

like I said, they naively believe they can grow AFL in NSW & QLD, obviously to the detriment of league, won't work but that's their rationale for paying so much for AFL and likely less for league. Not much perspective when making these decisions not understanding anything about the states or the populations opinion of AFL.

 

[Cletus]

Basically this says they will plunge millions of dollars to force a game down the throat of an uninterested audience. Remarkable

They've been doing that for decades and it's yet to work.

If what kent said on 360 is even remotely right the nrl executive (all of them)should be fired on the spot.

Basically said that the NRL blindsided foxsports and telstra with that deal with 9.

Supposedly telstra did not even get a shot at the digital rights for the games 9 is broadcasting.

And fox had nfi the deal with 9 was that close and had basically not even met with the nrl about the rights.

Take that with a grain of salt. But if there is some truth :crazy:

What has that got to do with Foxtel? Monday night is dragging down crowds and hurting clubs, 9 were offering Thursday nights and compensating for the loss of value from Fox losing Monday nights. Fox were never going to agree to losing Monday nights. And Murdochs attitude towards League isn't a sudden change of heart, it's always been that way. He couldn't give a flying f**k about the game and it shows in the way he's treated it over the last few decades. The only difference is he's being open about it now. The worst thing about this whole debacle is that News is supposed be acting in the best interest of shareholders when they throw money away on this and the entire Australian newspaper business.

 

[CowboyFuriousFury]

Not sure if this has been posted but wow what a joke. I imagine this would make up quite a bit of the News contra.



http://www.3aw.com.au/news/afl-set-...l-commitment-in-new-deal-20150818-gj26t1.html

:sarcasm: Why didn't News LTD provide any of this commitment to the Melbourne Storm in Victoria. All of sudden, News goes all out for AFL yet left the NRL in the lurch and held down during it's time in power.

 

[Perth Red]

Souths.

I mean real support, you know people who actually support their team by going to games not sit at home on the couch or telling someone in the street with a clipboard they are a fan of club x even though they don't go to games, buy a membership or own any merchandise newer than ten years old.

 

[8Ball]

You blokes need to relax. The AFL got an OK to good deal. Yeah its a truckload of money, but its an indication of how much free to air and subscription TV channels need premium primetime sports right now.

It seems clear that they are all trying to differentiate themselves this way from streaming services like Netflix. They are obviously shit scared of this new type of player on the market for eyeballs on screens. Note how much Foxtel have tried to promote other sports lately as weekly scheduled material (eg. V8s).

The simplest way to look at it is how much the NRL sold its free to air rights this time compared to last time (and also compare it to the increase the AFL got). Thats a good indication of how valuable good-rating sports are right now to TV. And its not like Foxtel is suddenly out of the running for the NRL rights or don't have much left. There is absolutely NO reason why they can't pay as much or more for rights to the NRL.

Foxtel not going for NRL rights makes zero sense from a business point of view. Exposes the business to far too much risk.

Today's announcements were posturing and nothing more. The AFL gets its headlines. Foxtel jockeying for position in their negotiations with the NRL.

This is how multi-billion dollar negotiations go... Far too much money at stake to play nice.

 

[Perth Red]

:sarcasm: Why didn't News LTD provide any of this commitment to the Melbourne Storm in Victoria. All of sudden, News goes all out for AFL yet left the NRL in the lurch and held down during it's time in power.

You always got the impression nrl was a necessary evil for news ltd after they lost the SL war. They have shown no commitment to supporting the game, in fact they undermine it at every chance. Smacks of this deal giving them the excuse they were looking for to shaft the game even more and publicly jump in bed with afl. Of course we won't know any of that until the deals are done and we see what they now do about the nrl.

 

[taipan]

I'd really like to know if Smith is going to use some sort of leverage for the next round of negotiations with Fox. Some kind of two pronged approach to bargaining with them, on one hand you can use the fact that fox will be out of pocket if they reject the NRL's offer and, if or when they do reject the NRL's offer, smith can then throw his ace onto the table which would be some kind of massive offer from another player.

If smith did have this ace up his sleeve (netflix) they are keeping it very very quiet.

My concern is that none of these companies like netflix have ever had sporting rights so it is new territory for them. Have they ever expressed any interest in sport anywhere in the world? If not, then why would they bother with the NRL?

For the NRL to maximise what they are going to get we need that extra player to come to the forefront.

Mate you are a panic merchant.
You forget the deep negotiations involved Andrew Fraser former Qld Treasurer now head of NRL strategy was also involved in the negotiations and Graeme Samuel now on the ARLC a former AFL commissioner and involved in their last huge AFL deal ,when the figure finally came up by ch9 ,Samuel said grab it ,as too good to refuse.
The guys involved in the negotiations are not rank amateurs,David Smith head of a huge Banking corp,Graeme Samuel well versed in these deals and a Qld former Treasurer.

Rupert and his press ankle biters can bluster and brag and have a shot at the NRL,but when push comes to shove commercial realities set in.When this happens my d*ck is bigger than yours does not enter into the equation.
Don't you think Smith & co would realise the AFL would want to get in early also and sew things up.We are not talking about Gallop bending over to News here anymore.

 

[t-ba]

I mean real support, you know people who actually support their team by going to games not sit at home on the couch or telling someone in the street with a clipboard they are a fan of club x even though they don't go to games, buy a membership or own any merchandise newer than ten years old.

Still Souths. More people attended Souths games in Sydney than Last year than any other side.

 

[Starkers]

NRL still has an innings to bat people.

 

[carlosthedwarf]

If what kent said on 360 is even remotely right the nrl executive (all of them)should be fired on the spot.

Basically said that the NRL blindsided foxsports and telstra with that deal with 9.

Supposedly telstra did not even get a shot at the digital rights for the games 9 is broadcasting.

And fox had nfi the deal with 9 was that close and had basically not even met with the nrl about the rights.

Take that with a grain of salt. But if there is some truth :crazy:

The NRL don't owe Fox or Telstra anything. Long gone are the days when Rugby League had to rely on media conglomerates for the game to survive. If Telstra wants to walk away I'm sure Optus or Vodafone would jump right in.

This is the freedom the game won last time, and the smell coming from News Ltd is fear. Sure the NRL may not match the AFL deal but they have absolute control of the game and more FTA exposure. That's fine by me.

 

[seanoff]

They've been doing that for decades and it's yet to work.



What has that got to do with Foxtel? Monday night is dragging down crowds and hurting clubs, 9 were offering Thursday nights and compensating for the loss of value from Fox losing Monday nights. Fox were never going to agree to losing Monday nights. And Murdochs attitude towards League isn't a sudden change of heart, it's always been that way. He couldn't give a flying f**k about the game and it shows in the way he's treated it over the last few decades. The only difference is he's being open about it now. The worst thing about this whole debacle is that News is supposed be acting in the best interest of shareholders when they throw money away on this and the entire Australian newspaper business.

Its got everything to do with it. You cannot blindside your business partners like this. You just cant do that.

If the telstra thing is true, thats terrible and very probably cost the nrl a fair chunk of cash.

Same with fox.

 

[8Ball]

Rupert and his press ankle biters can bluster and brag and have a shot at the NRL,but when push comes to shove commercial realities set in.When this happens my d*ck is bigger than yours does not enter into the equation.

This. We are not dealing with a couple of hundreds of bucks or a couple of meatheads.