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Non Footy Chat Thread II

hybrideel

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Begin rant:

I'm so sick of trying to find new work. I've been to so many interviews, felt really good about it, and been knocked back.

/rant

With you on that one mate. Just got another rejection myself yesterday for what would have been a great job for me. The usual "If we had one more position it's yours" speel as well. Now i have to decide whether to entertain packing up the family and moving to Canberra for a role there.
 

hybrideel

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The problem is that email is not secure. I have been dealing with financial institutions who say they will protect my privacy but then ask u to send them all your details like tax returns, drivers license et Al via email

Email can be secure though if you use encryption on your email client. You can be pretty sure the bank would at their end. That would stop people from being able to packet sniff and collect your data, or at least make any sense of something they do get.
 

yy_cheng

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Email can be secure though if you use encryption on your email client. You can be pretty sure the bank would at their end. That would stop people from being able to packet sniff and collect your data, or at least make any sense of something they do get.

Which banks use encryption to decrypt your emails?

Do they take my public key?
 

hybrideel

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Which banks use encryption to decrypt your emails?

Do they take my public key?

More secure connection than encryption.
In saying that my bank has never requested anything like that via email. It has always been in person or upload documents on their secure site
 

yy_cheng

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A while ago someone was about to put out an application that handles encryption using public and private keys but it never caught on
 

yy_cheng

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ssl connections encrypt your email traffic if you have it setup on your email client

Isn't ssl point to point? So the email goes from your client to the email server and Is secure. The email server then sends the email to the recipients email server, how do you know that is secure?
 

strider

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Isn't ssl point to point? So the email goes from your client to the email server and Is secure. The email server then sends the email to the recipients email server, how do you know that is secure?

yeah you submitting the email will be secure ... how it then gets to the recipient is in god's hands

the only secure thing they could do is if they had something on their site to submit such things securely - ie not via email
 

yy_cheng

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A simple example, you and your recipient uses Gmail.

You use a ssl client to securely sends it from your pc to the Gmail server. That is secure. The email probably stays on the Gmail server as your recipient is also on Gmail.

But did you know Google has people reading through all the Gmail emails?

Since your email is not encrypted, they can read it.

Your ssl is only secure for the transmission.

If public key encryption was used, google cannot read your emails unless they have the recipients private key
 
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hybrideel

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A simple example, you and your recipient uses Gmail.

You use a ssl client to securely sends it from your pc to the Gmail server. That is secure. The email probably stays on the Gmail server as your recipient is also on Gmail.

But did you know Google has people reading through all the Gmail emails?

Since your email is not encrypted, they can read it.

Your ssl is only secure for the transmission.

If public key encryption was used, google cannot read your emails unless they have the recipients private key

But who is going to go through the efford required to use PKI for every email. I suppose it doesn't matter as much it you aren't putting personal or private information in the emails but to get a public key for every personal you are going to send an email to and all of them requiring a private key is more effort than most people will bother with
 

yy_cheng

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But who is going to go through the efford required to use PKI for every email. I suppose it doesn't matter as much it you aren't putting personal or private information in the emails but to get a public key for every personal you are going to send an email to and all of them requiring a private key is more effort than most people will bother with

And that's why I said that the company that tried to do it faiked
 

yy_cheng

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it's a great idea if it's possible as email is a pretty easy target at the moment

Its too much trouble unless all email clients agree. Which google won't as they are using your info for ads.

I actually thought auspost digital mailbox would do it so all companies would have an auspost email box for secure docs
 

Eelementary

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With you on that one mate. Just got another rejection myself yesterday for what would have been a great job for me. The usual "If we had one more position it's yours" speel as well. Now i have to decide whether to entertain packing up the family and moving to Canberra for a role there.

Damn, man - that sucks.

I hope this all works out for you.
 

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