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NSW conference and non NSW would be awesome.
:lol::lol::lol:
Sounds real fair.
NSW conference and non NSW would be awesome.
Which would be a logical argument except the pie is now massive, it is not being split 16 ways and the extra money for expansion will not be going to the existing clubs. Lets say the grant ends up being $6mill and it costs another $1mill for 2 new teams additional competition running costs. That $13mill a year is not going to be split 16 ways for the next 5 years, it is just as likely to be eaten up in marketing, admin, grass roots or some other budget line item. The NRL grant for 16 clubs won't be $6.7mill due to no expansion as opposed to $6mill if there was expansion.
We should be deciding what is best for the growth of the game, not relying on TV execs to be makign that decision. The game has enough money to expand now if it really wanted to, the fact it doesn't is a sad state of our mentality that has kept the prof game limited to its heartlands for over 100 years.
Two 10 team conferences will be the eventual outcome imo, if some of the existing teams can stay alive long enough that is. There is compelling cases for at least 3 of the bids and arguably 4. That's before you look at Wellington, PNG, Adelaide etc in decades to come.
If non NSW f**kwits whinge I'd even be willing to give them extra in the NRL grant to cover their extra travelling bill. It would be worth it to see more rivalry games.:lol::lol::lol:
Sounds real fair.
One of the things that irks me about Grants announcement was the suggestion that the ARLC don't know enough about the impact on expansion so will commission a report at the end of 2014. Fair enough if they feel they need more time to review the pros and cons (like doh!) but why wait two years to look at it. Why not start looking now, compete the review end of 2013, invite bids or choose areas/bids in 2014 and have them admitted in 2016. I see no logical sense in waiting two years before even starting the process (again). I don't see funds that expansion will require making any difference to the existing 16 teams and lets be honest they have had decades to sort themselves out, does anyone think they will be in a much different state in two years time?
I would hate conferences, lets not Americanise the game too much, we have already done way too much Americanisation. No need for conferences just to please the expansionsits like you. The current model is fine, 18 teams in the future, and that is where it ends. PNG, Wellington, and Adelaide are rubbish bids.
I can assure you the AFL are looking to 20 clubs very soon and they have no issues with clubs not being able to play eachother twice.
Agree with you on the PNG bid. And Adelaide needs further work!
Their is merit in Wellington Orcas, Sunshine Coast/Brisbane Dolphins, WA Pirates & Central Coast Bears.
Your sticking to 18 clubs is very limiting!
I can assure you the AFL are looking to 20 clubs very soon and they have no issues with clubs not being able to play eachother twice.
A well worked draw amongst the clubs would ensure the major games like derbies get two matches each season. Fans will not mind that. They can look to next season to see the less preffered club if thats the way the draw will be done.
As long as their clubs have their place in the sun that is what really matters and the same would go for any supporter of a football club.
You're a visionless spastic locky.
Lets just say the AFL are fine with their expansion, in fact they won't be expanding soon, they already have said NO to Tasmania and a team in Darwin. 18 is the number and that is the one we should aim for. Conferences are stupid, we are not as big as America, we don't need 20 teams! Pick the two best bids, and be done with it.
So bottom line waaa waaa Perth isn't in. If you cannot see the positives with consolidation then you are more blind than I thought. I am not against expansion. I am against expansion for the sake of it. We need our primary markets in tact before expansion. That is what the AFL did, ensured Victoria was in tact before they expanded. It is the most acceptable and efficient model. Do we want to go down the A League route and lose 2-3 franchises through poor expansion.
As I said, get the best 6 bids, eliminate 4, and 2 come in at the same time in 2016 or 2018. That is a fair way off but it a realistic timeframe. No more than 2 bids.
I've seen how much media covg AFL gets in Sydney, you think that has no relation to the investment they have spent there? You think their sponsorships deals and corporate support is not bigger than ours because they have a truly national (capital city) footprint? You think their billion$ deal wasn't in part due to their expansion? You think they aren'tncreasingly hanging off the "Australia's game" brand by having a national audience with teams playing in every major city?