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NRL faces major turmoil as clubs threaten breakaway league

Von Hipper

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He knows there isn't a 300 word minimum requirement, yeh?

His greatest contribution to this whole shebang is he has a low opinion of virtually everyone, including himself.


He knows there isn't a 300 word minimum requirement, yeh?

snicker

Bunniesman was a far more effective and amusing troll.

You heard it here first.

I dont expect people like you to understand what is right - I only expect you to learn how to eventually tie your shoe laces some day and not dribble dinner even though you were given a straw.

"winners" is the only troll - unless I am mistaken about what a troll is.

They don't even get it right on what a troll is. How do these people live with this level of knowledge?!

They want expansion, they want peace, they want successful clubs.
ummm....ummm....umm.... I know! Troll!

There is no future fund anymore it looks like, and 2 more years of central loses coming right up.

I am biting my tongue right now. So tempting.
 

T-Boon

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this GW comparison is no insult by the way. That guy was a thinker. Everything got relegated to the cave - which I think is a damn good sign. He should make his way back.
 

sensesmaybenumbed

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I dont expect people like you to understand what is right - I only expect you to learn how to eventually tie your shoe laces some day and not dribble dinner even though you were given a straw.They don't even get it right on what a troll is. How do these people live with this level of knowledge?!
I am biting my tongue right now. So tempting.

Make sure you chew it off.
 

Perth Red

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Current situation (based on 2015 annual report)
NRL revenue. $334mill Grant allocation to 16 clubs $162mill = 48% of revenue

Potential 2018 situation (would based on a revenue of $500mill, Salary cap of $10mill, grant of $13mill)

NRL revenue. $500mill Grant allocation to 16 clubs $208mill = 42% of revenue

Even with extra bail out money if still needed and two expansion clubs the % of revenue needed would still be less than the current 48%

Seems the NRL clubs may have a point. If the NRL brings in a 5 year staged growth plan starting at say $8mill cap and $10.4mill grant going up $500k a year then it will still be no more than current % of revenue over the tv deal.
 

Von Hipper

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this GW comparison is no insult by the way. That guy was a thinker. Everything got relegated to the cave - which I think is a damn good sign. He should make his way back.

haha it sounds like E/D is a secret admirer of many people. Must have had a rough life. Probably grew up in south sydney and had a very close affinity to needles and pills. Or he works at the daily tele, I dont know which is worse.

Make sure you chew it off.

I did laugh, I mean its not mindless bullying if its funny, right!? Right?? Pffft, hahaha. How does it make you feel though? Like a big man?

Oh. I bet..... Its easy to tell which ones of you are unhappy with your lives, feel like pussy's or have no balls.



Current situation (based on 2015 annual report)
NRL revenue. $334mill Grant allocation to 16 clubs $162mill = 48% of revenue

Potential 2018 situation (would based on a revenue of $500mill, Salary cap of $10mill, grant of $13mill)

NRL revenue. $500mill Grant allocation to 16 clubs $208mill = 42% of revenue

Even with extra bail out money if still needed and two expansion clubs the % of revenue needed would still be less than the current 48%

Seems the NRL clubs may have a point. If the NRL brings in a 5 year staged growth plan starting at say $8mill cap and $10.4mill grant going up $500k a year then it will still be no more than current % of revenue over the tv deal.

You might be right - either way you cut it, by the end they can still hand out the same amount.

I dont think its just about the revenue. I think this issue is a catch-all tied up with the licences. Whats the bet it can be done somehow without too much change to how it is now (with new licenses). I doubt the NRL (in fact we established that, didn't we all) turned up and just abruptly pulled stuff off the table.

I like juniors and data, I like clubs, its all great, the players, just so as long as they are all moving forward they can spend as much as they like, I wouldn't mind at all, and of course progressing toward expansion.

I hope though the % decreases on what the end is, to start with, and they can scale it up over time with a healthy buffer (in effective terms). I dont buy into the whole notion clubs need 3M extra on a 10M cap just this 5 year period (but if like in your example they have a wider gap to start with that may provide the same effect). They don't seem to be doing anything to prove the case where they could use the extra money (that it won't automatically be wasted on inefficiencies because the biz is not developed enough yet, tempting to use it elsewhere), and nothing has appeared in a thorough media to suggest otherwise. Its just he said/she said.

I think we will see a lot of cost cutting measures in the next few years. I would be thinking twice about any cuts, anywhere, because spending less is often doing less. So I tackled the issue from the other direction.

I look at the funding model and think its good, it sounds like enough - but I also think they are all in a debt time bomb. Costs just always seem to go north.
 
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sensesmaybenumbed

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I did laugh, I mean its not mindless bullying if its funny, right!? Right?? Pffft, hahaha. How does it make you feel though? Like a big man?

Oh. I bet..... Its easy to tell which ones of you are unhappy with your lives, feel like pussy's or have no balls.

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Perhaps if people didn't spout so much bullshit they wouldn't have so many people telling them they're spouting so much bullshit....
 

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haha it sounds like E/D is a secret admirer of many people. Must have had a rough life. Probably grew up in south sydney and had a very close affinity to needles and pills. Or he works at the daily tele, I dont know which is worse.



I did laugh, I mean its not mindless bullying if its funny, right!? Right?? Pffft, hahaha. How does it make you feel though? Like a big man?

Oh. I bet..... Its easy to tell which ones of you are unhappy with your lives, feel like pussy's or have no balls.





You might be right - either way you cut it, by the end they can still hand out the same amount.

I dont think its just about the revenue. I think this issue is a catch-all tied up with the licences. Whats the bet it can be done somehow without too much change to how it is now (with new licenses). I doubt the NRL (in fact we established that, didn't we all) turned up and just abruptly pulled stuff off the table.

I like juniors and data, I like clubs, its all great, the players, just so as long as they are all moving forward they can spend as much as they like, I wouldn't mind at all, and of course progressing toward expansion.

I hope though the % decreases on what the end is, to start with, and they can scale it up over time with a healthy buffer (in effective terms). I dont buy into the whole notion clubs need 3M extra on a 10M cap just this 5 year period (but if like in your example they have a wider gap to start with that may provide the same effect). They don't seem to be doing anything to prove the case where they could use the extra money (that it won't automatically be wasted on inefficiencies because the biz is not developed enough yet, tempting to use it elsewhere), and nothing has appeared in a thorough media to suggest otherwise. Its just he said/she said.

I think we will see a lot of cost cutting measures in the next few years. I would be thinking twice about any cuts, anywhere, because spending less is often doing less. So I tackled the issue from the other direction.

I look at the funding model and think its good, it sounds like enough - but I also think they are all in a debt time bomb. Costs just always seem to go north.

GW here

tldr
 

Von Hipper

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Perhaps if people didn't spout so much bullshit they wouldn't have so many people telling them they're spouting so much bullshit....

Point out the bullshit instead of making baseless accusations.

The path forward is quite clear. Good thing I can formulate a plan and you can only cast aspersions.
Im sticking my neck out, sure, and you want the glory or something, I don't know.

Yeh the path forward is quite clear. I keep talking. You put a lid on your current track.

They need to insulate the ARLC commission from club interference in the chain of agency/structure while relaxing certain over-zealous rules about who can be on the commission. Its ridiculous the NSWRL can be compromised so, look: some people are having a double vote! And the nswrl is actually voting against its own interests...

but i'm talking crap. lol fk off dude. go out back and do whatever someone of your socioeconomic status does, pops pills, takes dope, smokes a packet, honeyed whiskey, expensive wine, cigar, just chill out and stop sinking knives....for all we know you know someone in the nswrl or you are on the nswrl board...


They need to shore-up the ARLC and its funding to do the activities they want to do. They need to limit funding to just enough, elsewhere. If that means the digitial program does not hit its 20m/year, maybe so be it.... The more they whittle down the enormous piles of money they have come into, the more pain they will feel. But the clubs must receive just enough. A club like Brisbane should not be getting as much as a club like Wests imho.

They can review this kind of thing in another 5 years, but right now they have an opportunity to get ahead still with targeted spending, I think they should be going for it.

Its 1.8/1.9/2.0 but it won't go far. Remember the clubs have already taken 50m from the 2018 contract and brought it forward to now!!!

Im a first things first kinda person. They need to inoculate the leadership structure. The clubs need to settle, as there will be an incredible temptation to trade their way out of trouble.
 
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siv

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Point out the bullshit instead of making baseless accusations.

The path forward is quite clear. Good thing I can formulate a plan and you can only cast aspersions.
Im sticking my neck out, sure, and you want the glory or something, I don't know.

Yeh the path forward is quite clear. I keep talking. You put a lid on your current track.

They need to insulate the ARLC commission from club interference in the chain of agency/structure while relaxing certain over-zealous rules about who can be on the commission. Its ridiculous the NSWRL can be compromised so, look: some people are having a double vote! And the nswrl is actually voting against its own interests...

but i'm talking crap. lol fk off dude. go out back and do whatever someone of your socioeconomic status does, pops pills, takes dope, smokes a packet, honeyed whiskey, expensive wine, cigar, just chill out and stop sinking knives....for all we know you know someone in the nswrl or you are on the nswrl board...


They need to shore-up the ARLC and its funding to do the activities they want to do. They need to limit funding to just enough, elsewhere. If that means the digitial program does not hit its 20m/year, maybe so be it.... The more they whittle down the enormous piles of money they have come into, the more pain they will feel. But the clubs must receive just enough. A club like Brisbane should not be getting as much as a club like Wests imho.

They can review this kind of thing in another 5 years, but right now they have an opportunity to get ahead still with targeted spending, I think they should be going for it.

Its 1.8/1.9/2.0 but it won't go far. Remember the clubs have already taken 50m from the 2018 contract and brought it forward to now!!!

Im a first things first kinda person. They need to inoculate the leadership structure. The clubs need to settle, as there will be an incredible temptation to trade their way out of trouble.

I'd like to explore why Wests-Tigers should get more money from the NRL than Brisbane

What is you logic here ?

It can't be travel or ThNF impact
 

DiegoNT

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I'd like to explore why Wests-Tigers should get more money from the NRL than Brisbane

What is you logic here ?

It can't be travel or ThNF impact
How dare you question his logic you toothless commoner! Jon Sipper is our superior and we must bow down to his superior intellect, our infantile bogan brains cannot fathom such genius
 
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DiegoNT

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I'm sure the Bronco's will love recieving less, and being perceived as not being as important to the nrl as others. They've handled those kind of situations well in the past
 

shaggs

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Current situation (based on 2015 annual report)
NRL revenue. $334mill Grant allocation to 16 clubs $162mill = 48% of revenue

Potential 2018 situation (would based on a revenue of $500mill, Salary cap of $10mill, grant of $13mill)

NRL revenue. $500mill Grant allocation to 16 clubs $208mill = 42% of revenue

Even with extra bail out money if still needed and two expansion clubs the % of revenue needed would still be less than the current 48%

Seems the NRL clubs may have a point. If the NRL brings in a 5 year staged growth plan starting at say $8mill cap and $10.4mill grant going up $500k a year then it will still be no more than current % of revenue over the tv deal.
Most sensible thing you have posted
 

T-Boon

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I'd like to explore why Wests-Tigers should get more money from the NRL than Brisbane

What is you logic here ?

It can't be travel or ThNF impact

The reason Brisbane should get a smaller grant than each the other NRL clubs is that they get the capital of RL to themselves and they get to play almost every Friday night. That gives them unfair advantages that should be evened out by giving them a smaller grant (I would say 20% less).
 
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The reason Brisbane should get a smaller grant than each the other NRL clubs is that they get the capital of RL to themselves and they get to play almost every Friday night. That gives them unfair advantages that should be evened out by giving them a smaller grant (I would say 20% less).

Pick the person who has no idea of history and the causes of the Super League War. :rolleyes:
 

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