NRL faces major turmoil as clubs threaten breakaway league

[Von Hipper]

I love how some people have no frakken idea about leagues clubs. Most if not all of them do not say their purpose is to propagate junior rugby league at all. They often say to propagate league within their district, or in some cases to support a team in a particular grade. Case in point, back in the late 1990s, Wenworthville Leagues Club were going to pull there team out of the Metropolitan Cup as they didn't want to carry the running costs of fielding a team. This decision was quickly reversed when it was pointed out to them that this was the principal purpose of the leagues club was to support the fielding of said team in said competition.

As such before you go sprouting off you need to actually do some research and not just dig up a throw away quote which is uncited as to its source.

thanks for clearing that up. Its appreciated I'm sure. And did you just contradict your own statement as to what leagues clubs original legitimacy for poker liscenes were?

Anyway, pal..... step aside and listen (we know you won't). Thats the past in any case but they should be held to it - we want to know why RL clubs in the NRL want to rely on nrl central funds when they have what is fast becoming a leach on NRL (league's clubs) who are refusing to help out rugby league clubs - but instead are more concerned about ripping people off at the pokies and retaining more profits. To make matters worse - not all NRL clubs have a leagues club.

Its only about creating a better environment for the entire league. Everything we do in 2016 and beyond must be for the sole benefit of the 16 clubs, even down to not giving them too much money at once from central funds - otherwise who is going to make this league grand (again) (lolz!?! hehe) `Merica!

 

[Captain Apollo]

Not all rugby league club have a leagues club? Boo hoo. If they want one there is nothing to stop them from starting one up, even the Brisbane Broncos managed to do that.

Additionally, Leagues Clubs actually have something called a constitution which is enforceable at law, and under various State and/or Federal statutes have to contain certain matters within them. They can't change what they do willy nilly without their member's approval.

Finally I never mentioned poker machines licences. You did, as such how can I contradict a statement I never made?!

No wonder I have you on ignore you gibberer.

 

[BuffaloRules]

So has Grant been punted yet?

 

[siv]

LC have the anility to write iff proits tax free if they are assisting community activities like rugby league

 

[siv]

So has Grant been punted yet?

Less than a week till the famous Dec 20 EGM

 

[T-Boon]

So has Grant been punted yet?

No. I think he is in the process of throwing the game under the bus to save himself. But if the NRL board have any gumption they will punt him themselves.

 

[Von Hipper]

Not all rugby league club have a leagues club? Boo hoo. If they want one there is nothing to stop them from starting one up, even the Brisbane Broncos managed to do that.

Additionally, Leagues Clubs actually have something called a constitution which is enforceable at law, and under various State and/or Federal statutes have to contain certain matters within them. They can't change what they do willy nilly without their member's approval.

Finally I never mentioned poker machines licences. You did, as such how can I contradict a statement I never made?!

No wonder I have you on ignore you gibberer.

Ha. Struck a raw nerve? Im tired of your abuse and perfectionism.

Loser, that was the discussion everyone was having. You joined into that. Go back on ignore attention seeker. Only legit and decent enough posts here please.

 

[T-Boon]

LC have the anility to write iff proits tax free if they are assisting community activities like rugby league

I am only liking this because I think one needs to be pretty f**kin drunk to understand it, which I am.

 

[Jatz Crackers]

LC have the anility to write iff proits tax free if they are assisting community activities like rugby league

I am only liking this because I think one needs to be pretty f**kin drunk to understand it, which I am.

Cmon T-Bone, what siv wrote is surely grammatically incorrect but it is not hard to determine what was meant. How pissed are you really or more to the point how pissed could you possibly be.

 

[siv]

thanks for clearing that up. Its appreciated I'm sure. And did you just contradict your own statement as to what leagues clubs original legitimacy for poker liscenes were?

Anyway, pal..... step aside and listen (we know you won't). Thats the past in any case but they should be held to it - we want to know why RL clubs in the NRL want to rely on nrl central funds when they have what is fast becoming a leach on NRL (league's clubs) who are refusing to help out rugby league clubs - but instead are more concerned about ripping people off at the pokies and retaining more profits. To make matters worse - not all NRL clubs have a leagues club.

Its only about creating a better environment for the entire league. Everything we do in 2016 and beyond must be for the sole benefit of the 16 clubs, even down to not giving them too much money at once from central funds - otherwise who is going to make this league grand (again) (lolz!?! hehe) `Merica!

I suspect as FC clubs stops being a community asset and proiftable then the LC doesnt get as many tax concessions

 

[Von Hipper]

I suspect as FC clubs stops being a community asset and proiftable then the LC doesnt get as many tax concessions

so really there are a whole range of offshoot issues surrounding all this.

must be hard at the end of the day to make ends meet up for these operations

 

[hrundi99]

so really there are a whole range of offshoot issues surrounding all this.

must be hard at the end of the day to make ends meet up for these operations

Um yeah that's kind of why most of them like to try and lose money or break even every year.

 

[Perth Red]

All of them have a statement that their goal is to grow rugby league in their regions. How they do this varies greatly from spending millions on the NRL team to spending milliOns on grassroots.

Example,Illawarra steelers league club financial report 2015

Football related expenditure
Joint venture contribution $220k
Salaries and wages $274k
Other footballl,related expenditure $682k

It would be nice to think that at some point NRL clubs can get sustainable and the millions currently being used to prop them up,could,flow to grass roots league.

In regards to cap on football club operations, you've got someone like Penrith who have run at loss after leagues club grants for some years spending $21mill on an academy building. Maybe the LC will pick up the tab but is a $21mill academy building really necessary Gus?

 

[T-Boon]

In regards to cap on football club operations, you've got someone like Penrith who have run at loss after leagues club grants for some years spending $21mill on an academy building. Maybe the LC will pick up the tab but is a $21mill academy building really necessary Gus?

what else can a football manager do to justify their wage increases other than to implement such things?

 

[T-Boon]

If I was the NRL the one condition I would put on 130% is an explanation as to exactly wtf football managers do with their day and how much they get paid for it. Gould writes newspaper articles and then plays solitaire all day.

 

[siv]

All of them have a statement that their goal is to grow rugby league in their regions. How they do this varies greatly from spending millions on the NRL team to spending milliOns on grassroots.

Example,Illawarra steelers league club financial report 2015

Football related expenditure
Joint venture contribution $220k
Salaries and wages $274k
Other footballl,related expenditure $682k

It would be nice to think that at some point NRL clubs can get sustainable and the millions currently being used to prop them up,could,flow to grass roots league.

In regards to cap on football club operations, you've got someone like Penrith who have run at loss after leagues club grants for some years spending $21mill on an academy building. Maybe the LC will pick up the tab but is a $21mill academy building really necessary Gus?

And here lies the issue

Panther LC can spend $21 mil on a CoE

 

[Perth Red]

And here lies the issue

Panther LC can spend $21 mil on a CoE

Maybe if they had spent $21mill on fan engagement and the stadium the NRL club wouldnt be losing money and the LC could spend more on grass roots? Seems shiny gyms and fancy buildings are more important to some NRL clubs than their bottom line.

 

[ashton]

Maybe if they had spent $21mill on fan engagement and the stadium the NRL club wouldnt be losing money and the LC could spend more on grass roots? Seems shiny gyms and fancy buildings are more important to some NRL clubs than their bottom line.

At least Penrith paid for it out of their own money......Souths COE is paid for by tax payer funded money.....And Parramatta wants the tax payer to fund their COE.

 

[El Diablo]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...t/news-story/c9c42b9893fa16b070fbf0b06d3b7f7f

QRL boss Peter Betros backflips on ARLC chairman John Grant

Michael Carayannis and Christian Nicolussi, The Daily Telegraph
December 15, 2016 6:19pm

QUEENSLAND Rugby League boss Peter Betros was one of the first chairmen to defend ARL Commission chairman John Grant — but that was not always the case.

After a meeting with Grant over future funding ended in turmoil last month, Betros joined the rest of the club bosses for drink at the Olympic Hotel.

And it was there sources told Sport Confidential Betros told the angry mob: “John Grant’s position is untenable.’’

Less than 48 hours later, Betros backflipped and said there was no point in ousting his fellow Queenslander from the top post.

Grant has until Tuesday to put a deal to pay clubs 130 per cent of the salary cap back on the table. Even if he does, there’s no guarantee he will survive the club coup.

Under the constitution, the clubs need 14 of the 26 votes to oust Grant. Eight commissioners, the 16 club chairs, and the NSWRL and QRL chairmen will vote.

Grant can count on his seven commissioners, the Gold Coast, Newcastle and Betros.

The Daily Telegraph revealed last weekend two more clubs were considering supporting Grant.

Betros was not happy when we asked him about his call to dump Grant, only to have a change of heart.

“I don’t know who told you that, but what was said in that room, a lot of people said a lot of things, and I’d rather not comment on any of it,’’ Betros said.

“Someone is being mischievous by the sound of it.

“I’m hoping we can reach a positive end to this. Dredging up what happened in a meeting three weeks ago doesn’t solve anything.

“We’re hopeful we can come to some conclusion so the meeting doesn’t have to go ahead next week.

“The clubs can withdraw their proxy votes if they wish. They can say there’s no need for the meeting and be happy to progress with negotiations.

“We’re not interested in chopping someone’s head off for the sake of proving a point. We’d rather get to the negotiating table and try and sort it out.’’

 

[Perth Red]

Whose leaking this sht to the media?