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NRL faces major turmoil as clubs threaten breakaway league

Von Hipper

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Didn't read.

Do you draft your posts on the padded wall in your own shit before typing them up?

See this is what I love - you read it. I know you did, and I read yours. Its why I replied - and its why you replied.

Mate - i know you're pathetic. :)

You're doing yours from your padded cell - because you're deluded. Now fk off
 

mave

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Ch 9 reporting the peace deal was never delivered to the clubs from the NRL.

Clubs meeting tomorrow to formulate a response.

Just sort this bullsht drama out, so we can all move on, please.
 

Von Hipper

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Grant and Turdles are amateurs and need to be pissed off ASAP

this idiot calls two people who have run large organisations for years "amateurs". haha. No - they are just part of a dysfunctional system few can work to change for the better in an area where progress is slow.
 

Von Hipper

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Didn't read.

Do they let you sharpen your pencil or is that considered a hazard?

Sure you didn't read it - but if you were twice as smart you'd still be considered stupid judging by your last line of comments.

You think you have the wood on the NRL just like your alter ego el d(nob), but you really don't.

This is a world where if people are not pandering to the clubs, places like you, ch9 and news cry the nrl is doing a poor job.

Ch 9 reporting the peace deal was never delivered to the clubs from the NRL.

Clubs meeting tomorrow to formulate a response.

Just sort this bullsht drama out, so we can all move on, please.

The 20th is tomorow. ch9 could be wrong, who knows, im on the side that thinks dont buckle to the clubs if the game truly can't afford it.
 
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El Diablo

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...e/news-story/5c2de7801ec4d204ba0378d6aa93c571

Another delay in NRL funding deal, but John Grant to survive

  • Margie McDonald
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NRL club bosses were annoyed yesterday at the delay by the ARL Commission in providing a final response to their funding claims, but there is still time to stave off John Grant’s public execution tomorrow.

The clubs had arranged a telephone hook-up yesterday afternoon to discuss the fine print of the compromise deal struck after several meetings between commission chairman Grant and Melbourne Storm boss Bart Campbell, the spokesman for the 16 NRL clubs.

Agreement by clubs on that document would have led to tomorrow’s vote on Grant’s leadership being cancelled.

But the final version failed to arrive in time so the clubs were forced to postpone their review of the commission’s response until today — or just 24 hours before the extraordinary general meeting is due to be held at the Moore Park league headquarters in Sydney. It means there is still time to cancel tomorrow’s showdown.

It seems a fait accompli that the clubs have the numbers — at least 15 votes of the 26 commission stakeholders — to roll Grant.

But under a compromise struck last Wednesday with clubs, and then discussed on Friday by the eight commissioners, Grant can stay in charge of the game for another 12 months if the points agreed to in meetings last week are put into writing and submitted to chairmen today.

It had been reported that two Queensland clubs, Brisbane and North Queensland, had baulked at dumping Grant, increasing his chances of survival. But yesterday they were both standing firm with 12 other clubs.

The only two clubs to step aside from voting are Newcastle and Gold Coast, which are still under NRL control. The 15th vote is the NSWRL, as the QRL has backed Grant.

The clubs, in light of the $1.8 billion broadcast deal to come into effect from 2018, will not budge on several conditions.

Chief among them is the previously promised annual grant to be 130 per cent of the salary cap from 2018.

Other key components include constitutional change, whereby the clubs and the two state leagues — the QRL and the NSWRL — have representation on the eight-member commission.

The new funding deal is not to be contingent on agreeing to perpetual licences. This was an original aim of the commission but the compromise is that existing club licences will be rolled over for another five years (from 2018 to 2022).

Progress is to be made next season on eventually gaining perpetuity of licence agreements for the next broadcast deal starting in 2023.

The clubs have also agreed to work towards a cap on football expenditure for each club.

Just as the salary cap has helped keep a balance on player rosters, the NRL wants to see that kind of equity extended to football departments.

One chairman yesterday said it had become “a virtual arms race” as clubs invest in all manner of sports science, training programs and technology to give them an edge.

Some clubs keep up this kind of expenditure while losing money overall from their final balance sheets each season.

The NRL is anxious to tighten the screws of fiscal restraint on clubs so the league doesn’t have to keep bailing them out.

The final element of the compromise deal is Grant’s tenure. The clubs are willing to let him stay until the end of November 2017, during which time he can work on a formula to create licences that grant the teams franchises “in perpetuity”.

Regardless of the machinations yesterday, the proposed review of the ARLC constitution by lawyer and Australian Olympic Committee president John Coates is still going ahead.

Coates, who is doing the review on a pro bono basis, has not yet been given the terms of reference. He is due to meet with NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg in mid-January to be given his instructions. While just 14 of the 26 stakeholders are needed to oust the commission chairman, to gain constitutional change takes agreement of both the NSWRL and QRL plus 15 of the 16 clubs.

It remains to be seen how many positions on the commission are likely to be allocated to the clubs and the states.

There is also the possibility that the commission might expand from its current eight members so it can accommodate additional members but retain an independent majority.
 

betcats

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this idiot calls two people who have run large organisations for years "amateurs". haha. No - they are just part of a dysfunctional system few can work to change for the better in an area where progress is slow.

They operate like amatuers. "Oh so we finally got 16 clubs and the QRL,NSWRL and CRL to agree to this new funding arrangement? Lets pull it off the table last minute and refuse to explain why or what the new arrangement will be, that should create complete harmony amongst all our stakeholders" Lol f**k Grant.
 
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this idiot calls two people who have run large organisations for years "amateurs". haha. No - they are just part of a dysfunctional system few can work to change for the better in an area where progress is slow.

Buddy if you believe these two are competent then you are a fool. They haven't met 1 Kpi, overspent by 10's of millions and have been nothing but deceitful in the quest for power. Grant made the promise of funding to save his arse.Greenburg takes it back to save his.Now they realise they are both in the line of fire it suddenly returns.To offer 130% in the first place was ridiculous to give it back is treacherous. On top of this they now have the players to take on with.the clubs backing.them because the bigger the cap the bigger the windfall. How could they possibly promise funding when they don't know the cap.13 million to.each club might.very easily become 15 real.quick. Absolute incompetence
 

Perth Red

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It's hard to argue the commision has done a great job since its inception. Not terrible, just not great.
 
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Correct and nor should anyone else. The fact you were spitting bile about them since BEFORE the commission was even formed says all I need to know about your so called views.
And I've been right all along. I said the commission would be a joke. Now it's plain to see it is.

I guess you're one of the few mongs who still can't admit being wrong and hanging on to the delusion that the commission is actually working.

Good luck with that. The rest of the circle jerk society has disappeared. It's taken a few years but most people with a brain are now waking up to the fact I was right all along and this admin is just as conflicted, incompetent and self-serving as the last one. But you keep batting on.
 
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And I've been right all along. I said the commission would be a joke. Now it's plain to see it is.

I guess you're one of the few mongs who still can't admit being wrong and hanging on to the delusion that the commission is actually working.

Good luck with that. The rest of the circle jerk society has disappeared. It's taken a few years but most people with a brain are now waking up to the fact I was right all along and this admin is just as conflicted, incompetent and self-serving as the last one. But you keep batting on.

Didnt read. Because you remind me of that saying in Seinfeld where George refers to :

" angry like an old man trying to return soup at a deli! "
 

Perth Red

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pluses have been
Tv deal, still not outstanding but closing the gap
Link up with touch opening up more marketing pathways
National coordination of development offficers
Dealing with the sharks drug scandal
Support of Pi and png growth
Support of international RL, to some degree
Stadium lobbying
Better govt relationships

Minuses
Failing to achieve the key kpis in their strategic plan
Lack of dynamic leadership, in fact ability to keep someone in the CEO position
Lack of strategy for grass roots
Failure to bring nswrl and qrl in with the other state bodies under the nrl
Lack of club funding strategy that has caused the latest spat
Lack of expansion strategy
Funding mismanagement

As I said not great but not terrible.

C- or D+ I'd give them.
 
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Buddy if you believe these two are competent then you are a fool. They haven't met 1 Kpi, overspent by 10's of millions and have been nothing but deceitful in the quest for power. Grant made the promise of funding to save his arse.Greenburg takes it back to save his.Now they realise they are both in the line of fire it suddenly returns.To offer 130% in the first place was ridiculous to give it back is treacherous. On top of this they now have the players to take on with.the clubs backing.them because the bigger the cap the bigger the windfall. How could they possibly promise funding when they don't know the cap.13 million to.each club might.very easily become 15 real.quick. Absolute incompetence
Yep, but make sure you're not right from the very start. That's bad apparently, according to f**king mong logic.
 
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pluses have been
Tv deal, still not outstanding but closing the gap
Link up with touch opening up more marketing pathways
National coordination of development offficers
Dealing with the sharks drug scandal
Support of Pi and png growth
Support of international RL, to some degree
Stadium lobbying
Better govt relationships

Minuses
Failing to achieve the key kpis in their strategic plan
Lack of dynamic leadership, in fact ability to keep someone in the CEO position
Lack of strategy for grass roots
Failure to bring nswrl and qrl in with the other state bodies under the nrl
Lack of club funding strategy that has caused the latest spat
Lack of expansion strategy
Funding mismanagement

As I said not great but not terrible.

C- or D+ I'd give them.

Good on you PR, at least that has some actual thought & balance. Something the angry old man at the deli has zero idea about.

Another thing to remember when we look at judging of performance is where the Commission started from. It was always going to be a cold start given the fact it was a brand new commission formed after a tumultuous period of stagnation & mismanagement (Gallop/News).

No matter what, the best laid plans in the first few years after formation were not going to be straight forward or easy and its not as if you simply make a strategic plan and then follow the steps to get there. The broadcast deal is one example of that & I suspect that it took a great deal more time and energy by the commission/Smith than envisaged.

Add to that the way the game was structured in the past and the web of self interest that pervades leagues stakeholders and no matter who or what is in charge of leading the game forward now they are never going to have a silky smooth ride of things.
 

Perth Red

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Titans have moved into their new facility (in relation to which clubs have CofE)

NRL CEO Todd Greenberg and ARLC Chairman John Grant will both be on hand on Tuesday morning when the Aquis Gold Coast Titans High Performance Facility is officially opened, members of the public invited to see the full range of facilities and equipment for the first time.

Only three members of the current Titans squad – William Zillman, Ryan James and Anthony Don – ever trained at the ill-fated Centre of Excellence at Robina, the majority of the squad only knowing the makeshift facilities first at The Southport School and then Pizzey Park, home to the Burleigh Bears, the past two years.

http://www.nrl.com/titans-facility-wont-guarantee-success/tabid/10874/newsid/102780/default.aspx

More detail on new facilities

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...l/news-story/85ef2040625f911819439613e657227e
 
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Perth Red

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NRL club grant increases

2011 $3.85mill
2012 $5.85+ $1.15mill tied funding
2013 $7.1mill
2014 $7.55mill
2015 $7.7mill
2016 $7.7mill +$1.5mill
2017 $7.7mill + $1.5mill
2018 proposed $13mill

Of the $3mill advance in 16/17 half has to be paid back by the clubs to the nrl from 2018 onwards. This is from the tv advance money of $50mill, meaning the nrl will have spent $26mill of the tv money before the contract starts in 2018.
 
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