NRL Finals System Changed

[the_flight_of_the_magpie]

if the finals series was a knock out comp you wouldnt of had the joke that was the warriors making the grand final

 

[Timmah]

it should be a top 8 knock out system to make the grand final you have to keep winning

this would make the finals more interesting

How do you propose that works then?

You're full of the same trolling rhetoric but not providing any backing for your proposal.

 

[adamkungl]

Whatever, when it comes down to it, 2 things really apply.
Under either system, the best team over that month will win it.
under either system, people will bitch and moan when their team doesn't get a cakewalk to the GF.

 

[M2D2]

 

[Ladmate]

Ecstatic. As a Tiger fan, I hate the McIntyre for obvious reasons.

 

[Big Pete]

This system is going to allow for much better finals series & is going to eliminate the leniency teams running 6th don't deserve.

Good choice, and about bloody time.

 

[Eels Dude]

if the finals series was a knock out comp you wouldnt of had the joke that was the warriors making the grand final

That wouldn't have happened under this system as if they lost in the first week they'd have been gone. Yet you say the old system was better :crazy:

 

[Jubes]

it should be a top 8 knock out system to make the grand final you have to keep winning

this would make the finals more interesting

Well this is certainly the worst idea I've heard in a while.

 

[Card Shark]

The McIntyre system had its flaws, but I still maintain that the biggest issues were around the "home ground advantage" rather than the system itself.

Assuming all the highest ranked teams win, the minor premiers under the McIntyre system had to beat teams 8, 4 & 2 to win the premiership. And team 2 had to beat teams 7, 3 & 1.

But until this "new" system, the minor premiers need to beat teams 4, 3 then 2 to lift the trophy, and team 2 needs to beat teams 3, 4 then 1. This makes it a significantly more difficult path to victory for teams 1 & 2. Give me the McIntyre system with home ground advantage for the highest ranked teams anyday.

Good post & I agree if initial 1-8 rankings were maintained during the finals series in respect of who has home ground advantage, their wouldn't really be too much of a problem with the McIntyre system.

 

[The Elephant In The room]

Because they have been winning for best part if 26 weeks, so why should they be thrown to the wolves after 1 semi loss.

In the McIntyre system 2nd could & has lost in the 1st week & played away the next week in distant places. It's not so much the 1st week being bad, it's the 2nd week where a season's hard earned position is forgotten.

But isn't this more a flaw of "home field advantage" as opposed to the McIntyre system? I've said it before, but if the "highest ranked team" retains home field advantage in week 2, instead of "highest ranked roound 1 winner", then problem solved.

 

[Goddo]

I'm impressed that a decision was made without 57 CEO conferences in Byron Bay or the Gold Coast. It will reward consistency but also reveal flaws in our season such as the adverse effects of origin on some sides.

Stand alone origin and shorter season (around 20 full rounds home and away, play each side once plus heritage/rivalry/whatever themed rounds) are the answers to that.

 

[Card Shark]

Yes, I think we are agreeing??

 

[the_flight_of_the_magpie]

How do you propose that works then?

You're full of the same trolling rhetoric but not providing any backing for your proposal.

for example i will take last seasons finals series

if it was knock out

the dragons, warriors, newcastle and cowboys would of all been knocked out in RD 1 of the finals

leaving the storm, manly, brisbane and wests tigers playing off for the right to play in the grand final

 

[BunniesMan]

for example i will take last seasons finals series

if it was knock out

the dragons, warriors, newcastle and cowboys would of all been knocked out in RD 1 of the finals

leaving the storm, manly, brisbane and wests tigers playing off for the right to play in the grand final

There are merits to what you're saying but the NRL will never agree to less finals games and the less revenue that comes with that.

The choice is between Mcintyre and ARL/AFL. Not between one of those and straight knockout.

 

[adamkungl]

There are merits to what you're saying

No there aren't.

 

[Springs]

Any system where a team relies on other results to get through is ridiculous.

The Warriors in 2010 finished 5th and were eliminated as the Roosters and Raiders won. However if those two teams had lost Warriors would still be in. Why do they deserve to retain their place just because teams below them lost?

And then in 2011 they finished 6th, lost, then made the GF. Makes sense...

 

[simmo1]

About time they changed it.

 

[Parra]

Finals systems should be about winning. They should be knock-outs.

The 2011 system had flaws. This new model is hopeless. Introduces meaningless finals as well as losers who stay in. Why reward the teams at the bottom with easy matches? Why penalise the minor premiers who deserve to play the weakest team?

A week off for the top two with all finals meaning something for each team is what is needed.

 

[muzby]

The Warriors in 2010 finished 5th and were eliminated as the Roosters and Raiders won. However if those two teams had lost Warriors would still be in. Why do they deserve to retain their place just because teams below them lost?

incorrect. in the situation you refer to above, warriors finishing 5th would have played 8th place (as opposed to 4th place).

however, if if the team below them lost (which would have been 8th place, their opponents) then they would be entitled to stay in as they would have won..

 

[adamkungl]

Any system where a team relies on other results to get through is ridiculous.

The Warriors in 2010 finished 5th and were eliminated as the Roosters and Raiders won. However if those two teams had lost Warriors would still be in. Why do they deserve to retain their place just because teams below them lost?

And then in 2011 they finished 6th, lost, then made the GF. Makes sense...

Well, in 2010 they were lowest ranked loser. And in 2011 they weren't. And you know what will happen this year? The lowest ranked loser will be eliminated again! Except now there's no advantage to finishing 1st over 4th, or 5th over 8th!