NRL rebellion: Rugby league clubs want CEO Dave Smith gone or threaten to leave comp

[no name]

That fat slug richo costanza must be napping under his desk and occasionally emerging to do a few minutes work on the penski file for his massive pay cheque.

There is no way in the world Richo is Penski material.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

It's not a get out clause,it has been stated from day one they took over the reins..

Blame Gallop for making promises and building up hopes for bidders .Grant has his faults but he never stated expansion would be definite at such and such a time.If he did i must be missing something.And I'm all for expansion.

I remember when the Cowboys and Warriors entered,the Warriors got into financial difficulty a few years later,the Crushers went out the backdoor,and the poor old Reds got shafted because they were lumbered with travel & accommodation.We have four Sydney clubs sailing close to the wind ATM.

Even Arko admitted ,his " Why not go to another four teams ATT " was a bit rushed.

I suggest the NRL has learnt a lesson,that you expand when your clubs are in order.Why create further debacles along the line. That does not mean that there will be no expansion.

Yeah that's why they are providing an extra $100m pa,pissweak indeed.:roll:

OK let's expand now,and flick the monies allocated to grassroots.You are always first cab off the rank,whining about lack of support in the bush.

I understand where PR is coming from,but he has zero interest in what the fans of established NRL clubs care about.

Nonsense from top to bottom.

The NRL were talking up big announcements about expansion by the end of this year. All bulshit of course. Richo was supposed to be investigating it in his amazing blueprint, except the dumb merkins went and sold the TV rights before it was even done.

The demise of the crushers and reds had nothing to do with expansion and everything to do with super league. If the current crop of dickheads ran the game in the early 90s we wouldn't have the cowboys or the warriors because Sydney clubs and the gold coast were struggling. Luckily the admin at the time actually wanted to grow the game and they did it with a fraction of the money that exists now.

As for grassroots money, its all.lip service as usual. They will include every cent spent by NRL development, all the state leagues and the ridiculous amount they're going to waste on stupid shit like the utter puss richo has brain farted for the "platinum league". This is at the same time as they've cut off even more opportunities for bodies like the CRL to make money for themselves. Between money already spent, the waste and the amount they're costing the grassroots this magical $100m figure they've pulled out of thin air will amount to very little, and they know they can always fudge figures to make it look true.

They have no interest in growing the sport and no ability to run it.

 

[CC_Roosters]

Nonsense from top to bottom.

The NRL were talking up big announcements about expansion by the end of this year. All bulshit of course. Richo was supposed to be investigating it in his amazing blueprint, except the dumb merkins went and sold the TV rights before it was even done.

The demise of the crushers and reds had nothing to do with expansion and everything to do with super league. If the current crop of dickheads ran the game in the early 90s we wouldn't have the cowboys or the warriors because Sydney clubs and the gold coast were struggling. Luckily the admin at the time actually wanted to grow the game and they did it with a fraction of the money that exists now.

As for grassroots money, its all.lip service as usual. They will include every cent spent by NRL development, all the state leagues and the ridiculous amount they're going to waste on stupid shit like the utter puss richo has brain farted for the "platinum league". This is at the same time as they've cut off even more opportunities for bodies like the CRL to make money for themselves. Between money already spent, the waste and the amount they're costing the grassroots this magical $100m figure they've pulled out of thin air will amount to very little, and they know they can always fudge figures to make it look true.

They have no interest in growing the sport and no ability to run it.

CRL has had 100 years to have its house in order and make money for itself as has the NSWRL but in typical australian sporting fashion incompetance reigns. I hope the ARL audit every cent of the additionall
funding they get and it better not go towards more jobs for the boys.....

They have made a loud commitment to spend $140m per year from 2018 in grassroots and elite pathways so why dont you let it happen and stop being so negative

 

[East Coast Tiger]

CRL has had 100 years to have its house in order and make money for itself as has the NSWRL but in typical australian sporting fashion incompetance reigns. I hope the ARL audit every cent of the additionall
funding they get and it better not go towards more jobs for the boys.....

They have made a loud commitment to spend $140m per year from 2018 in grassroots and elite pathways so why dont you let it happen and stop being so negative

*The CRL has not been around for 100 years.
*It did have its house in order. Completely solvent and viable.
*It did have its own revenue streams until the NRL started taking them away.

When you can't get simple facts right you can't make spurious claims about corruption or nepotism and be taken seriously.

The NRL has paid loud lip service to what it calls "grassroots" football when what they mean is NRL feeder systems, which are not the same thing. Its f**king easy to pull the wool over the eyes of people who already have them closed.

 

[Last Week]

*The CRL has not been around for 100 years.
*It did have its house in order. Completely solvent and viable.
*It did have its own revenue streams until the NRL started taking them away.

When you can't get simple facts right you can't make spurious claims about corruption or nepotism and be taken seriously.

The NRL has paid loud lip service to what it calls "grassroots" football when what they mean is NRL feeder systems, which are not the same thing. Its f**king easy to pull the wool over the eyes of people who already have them closed.

I think the entire human race would like to know, what's it like to constantly have period pain?

 

[adamkungl]

ECT is right. The excuses being trotted out around expansion are weak. The people running the game are visionless cowards.

 

[insert.pause]

Expansion shouldn't be thought of as purely adding new teams to the NRL, if they ever plan to bring in a Perth NRL side they should be first looking at where the players will come from and using some of the additional $100m a year for grassroots to adequately fund the WANRL. I agree they need to have a long term strategy for expansion, and that was promised to be included in the richo manifesto, so we'll see.

 

[betcats]

IMO there is nothing wrong with taking a slow and steady approach to expansion but to just say "Expansion is not on the agenda" is poor, if that is the actual quote, I haven't seen it the presser.

 

[Jatz Crackers]

Nonsense from top to bottom.

The NRL were talking up big announcements about expansion by the end of this year. All bulshit of course. Richo was supposed to be investigating it in his amazing blueprint, except the dumb merkins went and sold the TV rights before it was even done.

The demise of the crushers and reds had nothing to do with expansion and everything to do with super league. If the current crop of dickheads ran the game in the early 90s we wouldn't have the cowboys or the warriors because Sydney clubs and the gold coast were struggling. Luckily the admin at the time actually wanted to grow the game and they did it with a fraction of the money that exists now.

As for grassroots money, its all.lip service as usual. They will include every cent spent by NRL development, all the state leagues and the ridiculous amount they're going to waste on stupid shit like the utter puss richo has brain farted for the "platinum league". This is at the same time as they've cut off even more opportunities for bodies like the CRL to make money for themselves. Between money already spent, the waste and the amount they're costing the grassroots this magical $100m figure they've pulled out of thin air will amount to very little, and they know they can always fudge figures to make it look true.

They have no interest in growing the sport and no ability to run it.

Bullsh!t from top to bottom.

Its heading towards the close of the year so you must be desperate to sneak in some more crap in an attempt to win the "LU meltdown & stupidest post of the year award"

 

[Last Week]

ECT is right. The excuses being trotted out around expansion are weak. The people running the game are visionless cowards.

His opinions aren't wrong, but they can't be taken seriously when he clearly has an agenda. Same with Perth Red.

We all want expansion. We all also want all our clubs to be strong.

What people aren't respecting is that the commission has a responsibility to the current clubs before any expansion clubs. They cannot spend a significant amount of money on expanding the NRL competition unless it significantly assists the current clubs.

 

[Last Week]

If we're going to criticise the commission, do it for things where they haven't had to be very political with the clubs over things. Our newest TV deal is very open to criticism, Tasmania Rugby League is the biggest tragedy, or lack of movement in affiliated states for junior footy, etc etc.

They're heaps open to criticism for plenty of legitimate things. But when you're primary issue is the fact that certain areas don't have an NRL side, it's pretty clear that your not concerned about the game but rather you opinion on the NRL competition.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

What's my agenda? I'd really like to know. I'm very frequently told I have one so it'd be interesting to know what it is.

As far as I've always known its to see the best thing for rugby league as a whole. Quite frankly I think its a total lack of an agenda. No club bias, no financial or material interest. Just a bigger and better game. Imagine if that was the NRL's agenda. Ha!

 

[Last Week]

What's my agenda? I'd really like to know. I'm very frequently told I have one so it'd be interesting to know what it is.

As far as I've always known its to see the best thing for rugby league as a whole. Quite frankly I think its a total lack of an agenda. No club bias, no financial or material interest. Just a bigger and better game. Imagine if that was the NRL's agenda. Ha!

What's the point of trying to explain anything to you. You just say it's wrong and refuse to listen to any reasonable argument.

I was reading an old thread from years ago about the formation of the commission and you've hated the very idea of change from the start. You're not open to change, you're not open to being optimistic, you are closed minded and unwavering in all of your stances.

 

[Card Shark]

Ouch

 

[East Coast Tiger]

What's the point of trying to explain anything to you. You just say it's wrong and refuse to listen to any reasonable argument.

I was reading an old thread from years ago about the formation of the commission and you've hated the very idea of change from the start. You're not open to change, you're not open to being optimistic, you are closed minded and unwavering in all of your stances.

Thats because the commission was a f**k up from day dot.

And tadah! Now we're seeing the results. Or not seeing the results in many cases.

But maybe i need to drink the koolaid and be "optimistic". Is that another word for gullible?

 

[DiegoNT]

Thats because the commission was a f**k up from day dot.

And tadah! Now we're seeing the results. Or not seeing the results in many cases.

But maybe i need to drink the koolaid and be "optimistic". Is that another word for gullible?

So have the commission done a single thing right in your opinion?

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Yes. Theyve done a few things right. But its few and far between for an organisation with so many resources, so much freedom and supposedly so many brilliant people running the show. They stack up atrociously compared even to previous admins when you consider the massive advantages they have. Even most of their supposed victories have pretty nasty side effects attached.

 

[DiegoNT]

And tadah! Now we're seeing the results. Or not seeing the results in many cases.

In the past year
- rugby league's big events are now the highest rated tv shows australia wide
- record attendance for a finals series
- record attendance for an origin series
- membership numbers are through the roof
- stadium development deal for 3 sydney stadiums
- lobbying for a new stadium in Townsville
- biggest tv deal in the games history
- 3 live games (up from 1 live game in 2014) on FTA TV
- $100m per year earmarked for grass roots rugby league
- All current clubs futures are secure. For the first time in a long time we have 0 clubs in danger of folding

Sure they aren't perfect, in my opinion they tinker with the rules to often, only 1 Kangaroos test this way was stupid (even though this was a push from the player), parts of the tv deal could of been better (friday afternoon is dumb, but at least Monday night is gone), and like many I'd love to see expansion (but I understand the nrl's cautious approach). But to say the commission is a complete disaster and haven't done a single thing right is pretty ignorant

 

[CC_Roosters]

Yes. Theyve done a few things right. But its few and far between for an organisation with so many resources, so much freedom and supposedly so many brilliant people running the show. They stack up atrociously compared even to previous admins when you consider the massive advantages they have. Even most of their supposed victories have pretty nasty side effects attached.

Brilliant people opposed at every turn by dinosaurs at the CRL, NSWRL and club boards who prefer to fight there battles through the media in some twisted proxy war.

I know they have made the mistakes and I have criticised them for the lack of progress on expansion and the timing of the richo report but the clubs and their media buddies have essentially forced the NRL into inking a deal now for club funding with terms that seems to deny the prospect of expansion

 

[East Coast Tiger]

In the past year
- rugby league's big events are now the highest rated tv shows australia wide
- record attendance for a finals series
- record attendance for an origin series
- membership numbers are through the roof
- stadium development deal for 3 sydney stadiums
- lobbying for a new stadium in Townsville
- biggest tv deal in the games history
- 3 live games (up from 1 live game in 2014) on FTA TV
- $100m per year earmarked for grass roots rugby league
- All current clubs futures are secure. For the first time in a long time we have 0 clubs in danger of folding

Sure they aren't perfect, in my opinion they tinker with the rules to often, only 1 Kangaroos test this way was stupid (even though this was a push from the player), parts of the tv deal could of been better (friday afternoon is dumb, but at least Monday night is gone), and like many I'd love to see expansion (but I understand the nrl's cautious approach). But to say the commission is a complete disaster and haven't done a single thing right is pretty ignorant

Bullshit, speculation and exaggeration.

Completely ignores myriad issues, glosses over others, gives undue credit and generally believes all the spin and lip service.

Now thats ignorance.