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NRL Salary Cap/CBA -2023 - 2027

Wb1234

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This could end very quickly if 9 or Fox decide they want it to. Currently they’re getting clicks to their websites or NRL shows filled with drama. Once they get board of it, they’ll make noise that the players are breaching their contracts by not speaking to media, and say they’ll stop paying the NRL in full. Things will change quickly
That’s what I was thinking
 

Perth Red

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The attacks from the media against Newton have been appalling. Lol @ Hooper.
Hey got to give something back for the Vlandys sweet sweet tv deal!
Media are so biased it isn’t funny. I’d love to hear what players manager anasta, union managers son johns and turn coat money grabber Tallis really think! actually no I’m not really that bothered!
 

Maximus

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Where did I mention employers?
You guys have to read things better. I said Insurance companies, in the regards to sharing info and the fact it does happen.

Which would be completely irrelevant to the actual topic, since it's the employer that wants to be able to own and share data
 

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Carayannis and Hooper pointed out that the players are already in breach of their contracts.

“They are in breach of their contract,” Carayannis said.



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“They are in breach of the broadcast agreement with Fox Sports and Channel 9,” Hooper added.

“The broadcasters are holding their nerve and sticking solid behind the NRL because they believe in the governing body.

“They think Clint is muckraking for the sake of his own self importance.

The only ones embarrassing themselves are people who quote James Hooper
 
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Which would be completely irrelevant to the actual topic, since it's the employer that wants to be able to own and share data
I acknowledged that in my initial post, and as to the reasons why I brought up insurance and shared information.
Probably best not to just jump in without reading what has already been posted.
 
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Maximus

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I acknowledged that in my initial post, and as to the reasons why I brought up insurance and shared information.
Probably best not to just jump in without reading what has already been posted.

Great, so your posts are completely irrelevant to the topic? Thanks for contributing nothing.
 
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Great, so your posts are completely irrelevant to the topic? Thanks for contributing nothing.
Not if you had read them properly, which you didn't.
I'll make it easy for you, as you seem incapable of understanding.
Our data is not shared between work places, but if you are injured at work your info does become shared between insurance companies if needed.
Are players injuries and well being covered by insurance? Or are they paid for by the clubs/NRL?
If insurance is involved, then their data can already be shared.

Hopefully you can process that.
Hopefully.
 

Frailty

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Not if you had read them properly, which you didn't.
I'll make it easy for you, as you seem incapable of understanding.
Our data is not shared between work places, but if you are injured at work your info does become shared between insurance companies if needed.
Are players injuries and well being covered by insurance? Or are they paid for by the clubs/NRL?
If insurance is involved, then their data can already be shared.

Hopefully you can process that.
Hopefully.
Even when information is with insurance companies it is limited to how and when it can be used. It's not just a free for all with insurance companies sharing information without regulation. When a claim is being made, guess what all the agreements include? That's right, consent to how your information will be used.
 

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Even when information is with insurance companies it is limited to how and when it can be used. It's not just a free for all with insurance companies sharing information without regulation. When a claim is being made, guess what all the agreements include? That's right, consent to how your information will be used.

Who says the NRL's data sharing is going to be a free for all?
 

Frailty

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Who says the NRL's data sharing is going to be a free for all?
So to circle all the way back to the original discussion - we don't know because we aren't privy to what the draft CBA said exactly. Based on releases from RLPA, there was a point made that the NRL wanted ownership of that data, which they could use how they feel free too without any consultation with players, etc.

As I said, we don't know because we don't know how the draft CBA was worded, but since it's been raised as an issue from the RLPA there is clearly concern.

Honestly, this whole CBA debacle is at the point where they just need to bring in an Industrial Relations mediator/arbitrator to sort it out.
 

Wb1234

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I remember when the arlc proposed they be able to audit players tax returns to compare with nrl registered contracts to see who was cheating

now they can’t even use gps data

lmao
 
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Even when information is with insurance companies it is limited to how and when it can be used. It's not just a free for all with insurance companies sharing information without regulation. When a claim is being made, guess what all the agreements include? That's right, consent to how your information will be used.
In NSW any work injury goes through icare first, then whichever insurance company the work has chosen.
It's all registered with them (icare NSW)so all information is on record. I'm not sure how the other states work this process.
 

Maximus

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Not if you had read them properly, which you didn't.
I'll make it easy for you, as you seem incapable of understanding.
Our data is not shared between work places, but if you are injured at work your info does become shared between insurance companies if needed.
Are players injuries and well being covered by insurance? Or are they paid for by the clubs/NRL?
If insurance is involved, then their data can already be shared.

Hopefully you can process that.
Hopefully.

The conversation is about the NRL owning and being able to sell or share medical data without permission from the players. What relevance does your post have to that?
 

Frailty

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In NSW any work injury goes through icare first, then whichever insurance company the work has chosen.
It's all registered with them (icare NSW)so all information is on record. I'm not sure how the other states work this process.
Yes, but how and why that information is passed on is regulated. It's not just a free for all where the insurance companies can do as they please.

Any additional use outside of the consented process (which the individual consents to as part of lodgement) requires further consent to be sought. They insurance companies don't 'own' the information.
 

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