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NRL's growth mindset points to 18th team. And it ain't Perth.

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It’s time for the nrl to get off its arse and revers this trend!

The conclusions outlined in this data visualisation align with those in my book Code Wars.
Australian rules is successfully creeping the Barassi Line northward, with the border-straddling region of Murray in NSW aligned with Australian rules.
Significantly, this mapping work suggests Australian rules is also advancing in the adjacent Riverina region.

article written by a fumbleball stooge

the derps & misses has been strong in the Riverina since 1900.... advancing there ?
Utter rubbish

Fact is the line is pretty much the same as it was in 1978 when it was first drawn.
The only reason there are a lot more drops & oopsies clubs in NSW , the ACT & QLD is its easy & soft to play while RL is not, Plus 1978 was about the time the great Nthn migration started with victorians getting the hell outta derpsville in their droves to NSW & QLD
 
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Guess it will go weekly with the CC Mariners using the other week

Different competition, different circumstances. A league is a much smaller competition wherein the CC Mariners don’t have 10 teams surrounding them. Even taking that into account they have a chequered financial history.

A Central Coast NRL side doesn’t make any sense considering the circumstances of this competition or the context
 

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Yes but only them... need way more than just one tennant for that much spent on it, plus skynz boosting their spend on broadcast rights, you'd think there's definitely something happening there
ll go without what vlandys decides but nz2 is a much better option for the nrl

super rugby is stuffed and kiwis aren’t as hard s nut to crack as afl fans

new Zealand offers way more growth to rugby league than Perth

players sky nz tv rights and more fans than Perth
Kiwis vs Roos could be bigger then the bledisloe one day
 

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article written by a fumbleball stooge

the derps & misses has been strong in the Riverina since 1900.... advancing there ?
Utter rubbish

Fact is the line is pretty much the same as it was in 1978 when it was first drawn.
The only reason there are a lot more drops & oopsies clubs in NSW , the ACT & QLD is its easy & soft to play while RL is not, Plus 1978 was about the time the great Nthn migration started with victorians getting the hell outta derpsville in their droves to NSW & QLD
If anything since the raiders came in the barassi line has been pushed further south

before the raiders afl and league were on equal footing in Canberra

the arl had the foresight to beat afl to the punch and take over the city

the guy that wrote code wars is a massive fumbler. He basically said the afl should pay kids to play afl in Queensland so that one day they would be afl fans
 

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Different competition, different circumstances. A league is a much smaller competition wherein the CC Mariners don’t have 10 teams surrounding them. Even taking that into account they have a chequered financial history.

A Central Coast NRL side doesn’t make any sense considering the circumstances of this competition or the context
CC Bears make a lot of sense

Its just that you cant to see it through the cane toads
 
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If anything since the raiders came in the barassi line has been pushed further south

before the raiders afl and league were on equal footing in Canberra

the arl had the foresight to beat afl to the punch and take over the city

the guy that wrote code wars is a massive fumbler. He basically said the afl should pay kids to play afl in Queensland so that one day they would be afl fans
true
league always had a strong culture in the Monaro region , fumbleball became strong because when Canberra took over as the capital from Melb in 1913... huge numbers of federal public servants moved up here from Melb( they got free houses to do so as an incentive) & they brought their fumbling abortion of a sport with them. It stuck.

Now its a league town.

re draw that line
 

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CC Bears make a lot of sense

Its just that you cant to see it through the cane toads
For a second division I agree.

1. fans in gosford already support a Sydney nrl club and unlikely to swap to north Sydney
2. There’s arguably not enough corporate support for the existing 10 nsw clubs, finding another $5mill plus of corporate support for a regional nsw club, hmmmmm
3.we have major cities with no clubs within a 1000km, using a license for a club with ten clubs within 100km would be nuts, even for nrl.
 
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The Great Dane

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article written by a fumbleball stooge

the derps & misses has been strong in the Riverina since 1900.... advancing there ?
Utter rubbish

Fact is the line is pretty much the same as it was in 1978 when it was first drawn.
The only reason there are a lot more drops & oopsies clubs in NSW , the ACT & QLD is its easy & soft to play while RL is not, Plus 1978 was about the time the great Nthn migration started with victorians getting the hell outta derpsville in their droves to NSW & QLD
Dr Fujak was raised in Sydney supporting RL, has no affiliation with any AFL organisation, and has never shown any favouritism to the AFL or Aussie Rules in General. Frankly you are the biased one, and are simply projecting.

The data shows that the AFL has grown in Southern NSW and the ACT across most metrics that we have reliable data for. Participation and ratings are the most reliable ones, and both have slowly, but steadily, grown since at least the early 00s/90s.

The data shows what the data shows, and you're just wasting everybody's time by pretending otherwise unless you can show that the data is faulty, or present your own set that contradicts said data, and we both know that you can't.
 

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If anything since the raiders came in the barassi line has been pushed further south

before the raiders afl and league were on equal footing in Canberra

the arl had the foresight to beat afl to the punch and take over the city

the guy that wrote code wars is a massive fumbler. He basically said the afl should pay kids to play afl in Queensland so that one day they would be afl fans
League built up a strong presence in Canberra because of the Raiders. AFL has a solid presence in Sydney and Brisbane because of the Swans and Lions, same with League in Melbourne with the Storm.

You need to have a team in the top League if you want to get any kind of foothold in a city.
 

The Great Dane

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If anything since the raiders came in the barassi line has been pushed further south

before the raiders afl and league were on equal footing in Canberra

the arl had the foresight to beat afl to the punch and take over the city
How to say you're not from Canberra without actually saying you're not from Canberra lol.

RL and Aussie Rules were not on equal footing before the Raiders. It's kind of complex, but Rugby plural was, but not RL by it's self. Nor has RL been the clear cut dominant sport in the city since the 90s, and the AFL has made massive gains in the last 20 years.

Frankly there's a lack of research into the subject, but the popularity of each sport is so close in Canberra that it's not clear which is more popular for certain. However I say this with absolute certainty; if the AFL launched a Canberra Club tomorrow it'd be as big as the Raiders, if not slightly bigger, from day dot.

In other words, the AFL has grow Aussie Rules in Canberra from a sport that was on it's knees in the 90s to roughly as big as RL in 20 years, and they've done it all without even placing a team here. Granted, the extent of the AFL's growth was largely only possible because of neglect by the NRL and mismanagement by the ARU, and the rate of immigration into Canberra didn't hurt either, but if you don't consider their growth in Canberra (and Southern NSW for that matter) significant, then I'd hate to see what you actually consider significant growth.
 
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Dr Fujak was raised in Sydney supporting RL, has no affiliation with any AFL organisation, and has never shown any favouritism to the AFL or Aussie Rules in General. Frankly you are the biased one, and are simply projecting.

The data shows that the AFL has grown in Southern NSW and the ACT across most metrics that we have reliable data for. Participation and ratings are the most reliable ones, and both have slowly, but steadily, grown since at least the early 00s/90s.

The data shows what the data shows, and you're just wasting everybody's time by pretending otherwise unless you can show that the data is faulty, or present your own set that contradicts said data, and we both know that you can't.
hahahaha

we've had this conversation before & you cried when I exposed him last time too..
he said there were 1000 RL players in the ACT

hes a NFI wanker ...
 

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League built up a strong presence in Canberra because of the Raiders. AFL has a solid presence in Sydney and Brisbane because of the Swans and Lions, same with League in Melbourne with the Storm.

You need to have a team in the top League if you want to get any kind of foothold in a city.

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How to say you're not from Canberra without actually saying you're not from Canberra lol.

RL and Aussie Rules were not on equal footing before the Raiders. It's kind of complex, but Rugby plural was, but not RL by it's self. Nor has RL been the clear cut dominant sport in the city since the 90s, and the AFL has made massive gains in the last 20 years.

Frankly there's a lack of research into the subject, but the popularity of each sport is so close in Canberra that it's not clear which is more popular for certain. However I say this with absolute certainty; if the AFL launched a Canberra Club tomorrow it'd be as big as the Raiders, if not slightly bigger, from day dot.

In other words, the AFL has grow Aussie Rules in Canberra from a sport that was on it's knees in the 90s to roughly as big as RL in 20 years, and they've done it all without even placing a team here. Granted, the extent of the AFL's growth was largely only possible because of neglect by the NRL and mismanagement by the ARU, and the rate of immigration into Canberra didn't hurt either, but if you don't consider their growth in Canberra (and Southern NSW for that matter) significant, then I'd hate to see what you actually consider significant growth.
I am from Canberra

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you're as big a NFI wanker as Dr Fu.ckhead or whateva his name is
 
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There would be 10 times the number of NRL fans in Canberra & the region then awful fans
fans of all 16 clubs I mean.
Participation maybe closer but RL is a tough physical sport to play & this impedes its playing numbers but not its popularity.
Tackle league , touch & tag , then RL & its variants dominates the drops & giggles for player numbers too

Aflol appeals to some skinny little noodle armed unco white boys in tight shorts & singlets but its overall appeal is miles behind RL in this part of the world
 
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hahahaha

we've had this conversation before & you cried when I exposed him last time too..
he said there were 1000 RL players in the ACT

hes a NFI wanker ...
Yeh his tales are always amusing that’s for sure

imagine saying afl is almost as big as league now in Canberra.
 

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ll go without what vlandys decides but nz2 is a much better option for the nrl

super rugby is stuffed and kiwis aren’t as hard s nut to crack as afl fans

new Zealand offers way more growth to rugby league than Perth

players sky nz tv rights and more fans than Perth
Kiwis vs Roos could be bigger then the bledisloe one day
Yeh a new club getting hammered in that sht wellington stadium will be awsome!
 

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