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Origin Eligibility changes

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Just for the people saying "would stop the GI situation happening" would you really want to? Would you really want someone on the blues who prefers qld and wishes he played for them and felt nothing for the blue jersey?
Why? That just seems ludicrous to me. There's a reason GI identifies as a qlder and I think it should be respected. Or scoff if you want but actually trying to force a man to represent a state he (understandably) hates is just silly. You can't tell someone they're not a qlder, I don't know what its like down south but its clear these eligibility rules weren't devised by a qlder because they're actually absurd. Anyone who has cheered for the maroons knows what i mean. No one can tell you you're not a qlder if you feel you are, and you dont have to be australian at all. Lots of non australian qlders.

Yeah, GI chose QLD because of his passion for the state.
Nothing to do with the inevitable pay rise.
QLD got in first and NSW took too long to check up on his eligibility. Smart by the QLDers, dumb by NSW.
Nothing to do with him actually believing he is a QLDer.
 

Alex28

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Just for the people saying "would stop the GI situation happening" would you really want to? Would you really want someone on the blues who prefers qld and wishes he played for them and felt nothing for the blue jersey?
Why? That just seems ludicrous to me. There's a reason GI identifies as a qlder and I think it should be respected. Or scoff if you want but actually trying to force a man to represent a state he (understandably) hates is just silly. You can't tell someone they're not a qlder, I don't know what its like down south but its clear these eligibility rules weren't devised by a qlder because they're actually absurd. Anyone who has cheered for the maroons knows what i mean. No one can tell you you're not a qlder if you feel you are, and you dont have to be australian at all. Lots of non australian qlders.

I was just reading about the next GI and how unfair he sees it having to represent NSW when he is clearly a Queenslander...

Jarryd Jackson is eight and loves rugby league. He works hard in class, but can't wait for the bell to ring. The playground is his element. There, he can pass like Cameron Smith, tackle like Sam Thaiday, bash and crash like Dave Taylor and can kick the winning field goal like Cooper Cronk.

''I just love the Maroons,'' says Jarryd, taking a swig from his limited edition Johnathan Thurston autographed water bottle. ''All me and my friends want to do is play for them when we grow up.''

But, for Jarryd, this will not be a merry Christmas. The grinches of the ARL Commission have stolen this young boy's dream by declaring he can never play for his beloved Queensland.
The warped logic behind a decision that has broken an eight-year-old's heart? Jarryd, like so many kids, will not be permitted to pull on a maroon jersey merely because he was born, and has lived his entire life, in NSW. It is a ruling that destroys the very notion that underpins State of Origin - Queensland being the ''state'' and everyone else coming to them from an ''origin''.

''We just can't understand it,'' said Jarryd's father Brendan. ''Sure, when I was a kid you might have had to play for the Blues if you were from a place just over the Queensland border, like Albury. But it has been well established that most talented kids from NSW owe their skill to some Queensland link. Do you think Jarryd could play as well as he does if he had not listened to Ricki-Lee Coulter or read the collected speeches of Kevin Rudd? He's Queensland all over.''

Jarryd had met the previous eligibility criteria to play for the Maroons. ''He knows all the words to the Queensland national anthem, including the verse about the giant pineapple and can shell a Moreton Bay bug in less than 20 seconds,'' Brendan said. ''But, apparently, that's not good enough any more. If you're not born with a cane-cutter in one hand a XXXX stubbie in the other, you're not a real Queenslander. Just because you've never been there.''

The draconian new rule has hit Jarryd hard. ''The kid is devastated,'' Brendan said. ''Like every kid from Punchbowl, he's grown up thinking that, one day, he would run out before his adoring fellow Queenslanders at Suncorp Stadium. We were even thinking of going to Brisbane one day, just to see what it's like. Not much point now, is there?''

Brendan is concerned for the emotional wellbeing of the many young boys from south of the Tweed now threatened with the prospect they will have to play for NSW. ''The night after the ruling Jarryd woke up screaming,'' he said. ''He had a nightmare Laurie Daley and Blocker Roach were holding him down and forcing him to put on a Blues jersey. Daley was saying things like, 'Come on, trust me, we can win the series this year'. No kid should be subjected to that.''

Queensland officials have vowed to appeal the decision. ''First NSW get two home games when it's their turn, now this,'' said a Queensland Rugby League spokesman. ''It's just another example of a NSW-dominated commission tying the game up in red tape, when the maroon tape was holding things together nicely.''

Reminded that commission chairman John Grant is a Queenslander, the QRL spokesman replied: ''He's gone native. But unless he changes this decision and restores the God-given right of every child in this country - and a few others - to play for Queensland, the backlash will make Cyclone Larry look like a light breeze through a fruit shop window.''

Bizarrely, the commission has determined State of Origin would now be interpreted as meaning a player must represent the state from which he originates. ''What next?'' said the man from north of the border. ''To bat for England you have to come from Birmingham, not Bloemfontein? This is the type of blatant discrimination that inspires our players to go out there year after year and perform for their state. Or, at least, for our state.''

Meanwhile, Jarryd sits in his bedroom gazing up at the posters of Queensland Origin champions. ''Please Mr Grant,'' he says, fighting back tears. ''I'll do anything to play for Queensland. I've got Google Maps on my iPod. I'll even find out where it is!''
 

Son of Minto

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That was probably the least funniest thing ive ever read. Seems like something BunniesMong would post
 
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Tone83

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I reckon it helps it more to be honest I reckon anyone over 13 will now play for NZ and not be lured by the glamour and reward of Origin.

Anyone under that age will have justifiable claim to be an Aussie they will invariably have lived here for 10+ years.
Justifiable claim to be an aussie sure, but what if they want to play for their home country? James segeyaro for example moved to qld when he was 5 or so, you really think it's good for the international game to stop him from playing for png? He's definitely a qlder and shouldn't have to worry about that, but he should also be able to represent png.
 

Canard

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Justifiable claim to be an aussie sure, but what if they want to play for their home country? James segeyaro for example moved to qld when he was 5 or so, you really think it's good for the international game to stop him from playing for png? He's definitely a qlder and shouldn't have to worry about that, but he should also be able to represent png.

But the issue there is the player, nothing is stopping him declaring himself eligible for PNG.
 

Tone83

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He has to choose between playing for his home country and his dream to play origin for his state. That's not right.
 

Canard

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He has to choose between playing for his home country and his dream to play origin for his state. That's not right.

Seems perfectly "right" to me. He has a choice play for Australia or PNG, thats his choice.

Seems Segs has made his choice anyway as he has already played for PNG. Surely your not going to tell me that QLD has been "robbed" of a talent by him choosing that?
 

Tone83

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Actually yes, I could easily see him picked on the bench for qld in the next few years, even one day when smith has retired he could be the starting 9. More importantly he shouldn't be robbed of the dream.
 

Canard

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Actually yes, I could easily see him picked on the bench for qld in the next few years, even one day when smith has retired he could be the starting 9. More importantly he shouldn't be robbed of the dream.

I think the rule has more benefits than negatives, and doesn't need to be changed to encompass James Segayaro.
 

DJShaksta

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Rule changes make sense.
Fugg Segeyaro.
Origin is for representatives of the two states of AUSTRALIA.
 

Jimmy Wiggle

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How do the new rules work for QLD or NSW families that move interstate. I have 3 sons all born in Perth, the oldest had his 2nd, 3rd and 4th birthdays in brisbane, so i gather he is eligible, but the other 2 have only spent time in brisbane and townsville visiting their grandparents, so i think that they aren't eligible.

If the oldest 1 played SOO, would the younger 1's be able to play or is it just to bad, even though they consider themselves QLDers
 

Canard

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How do the new rules work for QLD or NSW families that move interstate. I have 3 sons all born in Perth, the oldest had his 2nd, 3rd and 4th birthdays in brisbane, so i gather he is eligible, but the other 2 have only spent time in brisbane and townsville visiting their grandparents, so i think that they aren't eligible.

If the oldest 1 played SOO, would the younger 1's be able to play or is it just to bad, even though they consider themselves QLDers

Seems to be the case yes.
 

Usain Bolt

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How do the new rules work for QLD or NSW families that move interstate. I have 3 sons all born in Perth, the oldest had his 2nd, 3rd and 4th birthdays in brisbane, so i gather he is eligible, but the other 2 have only spent time in brisbane and townsville visiting their grandparents, so i think that they aren't eligible.

If the oldest 1 played SOO, would the younger 1's be able to play or is it just to bad, even though they consider themselves QLDers

Your sons will never make it to the NRL
 

Cryptic

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Crockers will be eligible for QLD, thats the point of the father/son rule.

I think its a good thing personally, keeps some tradition in the game. Means Matty Rogers would have been eligible for NSW etc.

I assume its an either/or scenario, but I cant see many kids not wanting to play for there Dad's home state.

He (Rogers) was eligible, he just didn't want to play for NSW....
 
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byrner

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Your sons will never make it to the NRL

This made me lol on the train.

Seriously Nyone who.thinks the new rule.is not.good is kidding them selves.
Its simple- if you liver in nsw or qld before 13, you are eligible.
- if you didnt live in nsw or qld before 13 but you consideryourself australian you cant play for nsw or qld, but xan play for australia.
If you are eligible to play for nsw or qld then u must nominate yourself to play for australia to be able to plat SOO.
If you are eligible for both NSW and Qld then you will have to choose who you want to play for.
If your dad played for nsw or qld and you are not eligible through other means then you have the choice to play for your fathers state as long as you nominate to play for australia

This will not only ensure that people play are from nsw or qld, it will build the international game and hopefully interstate rep sides.
 

Tweed Titan

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Just for the people saying "would stop the GI situation happening" would you really want to? Would you really want someone on the blues who prefers qld and wishes he played for them and felt nothing for the blue jersey?
Why? That just seems ludicrous to me. There's a reason GI identifies as a qlder and I think it should be respected. Or scoff if you want but actually trying to force a man to represent a state he (understandably) hates is just silly. You can't tell someone they're not a qlder, I don't know what its like down south but its clear these eligibility rules weren't devised by a qlder because they're actually absurd. Anyone who has cheered for the maroons knows what i mean. No one can tell you you're not a qlder if you feel you are, and you dont have to be australian at all. Lots of non australian qlders.

Pretty sure it has nothing to do with Inglis identifying originally as a Qlder, it was just they were the first state prepared to give him a run in SOO, as we had some decent centres at the time he was emerging. So for career reasons ($$$) he elected to play for Qld. This is well known.

Idiot.
 

gyallop

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GI's only connection to Qld was Rorter Ribot using his silky rule bending skills , Storm signed him as a kid from kempsey and as soon as he was old enough flew him up to play a senior game at Norths in Brisbane and magically you have a passionate qlder!!!

Rules seem fine and puts the Origin back into Origin. feel for kids from other states that genuinely relocate from other states after they turn 13 and then cant go all the way with their mates.

Will NSW and Qld put effort in or select non eligible kids in their development programmes? NZ love to bleat about Australia poaching players then do a Qld and pick anyone who has watched Once Were Warriors but will this back fire on them as Australia develops many of their players.
 

Tone83

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Gi has said his family always cheered for qld and also he is a murri which are the indigenous qlders.
Guess all you know it alls really know sweet f all.
 

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