OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Israel has the right to "defend" itself.

There’s the Biden White House and democrats in action Gronky.

 

[Gronk]

There’s the Biden White House and democrats in action Gronky.

Unsure what you mean. Trump moved their Embassy to Jerusalem, so do you think that the USA would have acted differently if the GOP were in charge ? No, the yanks seem to turn a blind eye to what Israel does. Well it's not a blind eye is it ? They give them bombs to carry out genocide.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Unsure what you mean. Trump moved their Embassy to Jerusalem, so do you think that the USA would have acted differently if the GOP were in charge ? No, the yanks seem to turn a blind eye to what Israel does. Well it's not a blind eye is it ? They give them bombs to carry out genocide.

I just go on the facts Gronky.

The Biden Whitehouse has supported Israel’s wiping out of Gaza over and over.

Cant send them enough weapons.

Where are we at, 40,000 killed including thousands of kids?

Not to excuse the Hamas ferals their vicious, cowardly conduct.

The Democrats are deep state pro-war.

An uncomfortable truth.

 

[MarkInTheStands]

And that is all because the happy clappers want the rapture to happen.
That is supposed to happen with Israel has all the lands god promised them.
Then Israel will become Christian and then the rapture happens.

No polly in the US is stupid enough to get the happy clapping Christians offside so they support Israel and no matter how many people of Arab decent talk about it here there is not going to be a change will 50M happy clappers in the US are setting the policy.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

With the democrats paralysed on the issues, Trump seems to be the best hope for some kind of peace in the Middle East and to end the War in the Ukraine.

A lot of the traditional left seem to struggle with this.

The democrats say “the war has to stop” but in the meantime continue to support the Gaza massacre with weapons etc.

If the US got heavy with Israel, it might rethink its policy.

A lot of innocent people who don’t want a bar of the conflicts are being injured and killed.

 

[Soren Lorenson]

And that is all because the happy clappers want the rapture to happen.
That is supposed to happen with Israel has all the lands god promised them.
Then Israel will become Christian and then the rapture happens.

No polly in the US is stupid enough to get the happy clapping Christians offside so they support Israel and no matter how many people of Arab decent talk about it here there is not going to be a change will 50M happy clappers in the US are setting the policy.

You do realise 'happy clapping Christians' accept Jesus as the Saviour and the Jews do not accept this right? I don't think you can conflate the 2 groups.

 

[MarkInTheStands]

You do realise 'happy clapping Christians' accept Jesus as the Saviour and the Jews do not accept this right? I don't think you can conflate the 2 groups.

I do know that, but the Happy Clappers are of the belief that once God has provided all the lands promised to the jews for Israel, they will convert to Christianity.

 

[Gronk]

I just go on the facts Gronky.

The Biden Whitehouse has supported Israel’s wiping out of Gaza over and over.

Cant send them enough weapons.

Where are we at, 40,000 killed including thousands of kids?

Not to excuse the Hamas ferals their vicious, cowardly conduct.

The Democrats are deep state pro-war.

An uncomfortable truth.

You're wasting my time if you're just going to playing spin games with "the democrats are in power and that's all I see". Both sides are committed to doing whatever is needed.

Trump tells Jewish voters they have 'no excuse' for supporting Harris​

September 20, 202411:02 AM ET

Former President Donald Trump is casting himself as Israel’s "protector" and warning Jewish voters against supporting his rival, Vice President Harris.

Speaking to a mostly friendly crowd, Trump touted his past support for Israel and, without providing evidence, claimed that the Jewish state will soon cease to exist unless he’s elected.

“It’s total annihilation — that’s what you’re talking about,” Trump said. “You have a big protector in me. You don’t have a protector on the other side.”

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/g-s1-23859/trump-jewish-voters-israel-election-2024

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

You're wasting my time if you're just going to playing spin games with "the democrats are in power and that's all I see". Both sides are committed to doing whatever is needed.

Trump tells Jewish voters they have 'no excuse' for supporting Harris​

September 20, 202411:02 AM ET

Former President Donald Trump is casting himself as Israel’s "protector" and warning Jewish voters against supporting his rival, Vice President Harris.

Speaking to a mostly friendly crowd, Trump touted his past support for Israel and, without providing evidence, claimed that the Jewish state will soon cease to exist unless he’s elected.

“It’s total annihilation — that’s what you’re talking about,” Trump said. “You have a big protector in me. You don’t have a protector on the other side.”

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/g-s1-23859/trump-jewish-voters-israel-election-2024

Well you’re wasting my time if you think the Democrats and the Biden White House will stop the massacre. Let the record show their inertia and confusion on the issue.

40,000 people would agree with me if they were alive. 10, 000 kids wasn’t it?

Trump is far and away the best hope for peace in the Middle East.

He will say what he can for votes, they all do.

The devil we know turning a blind eye to mass homicide or a chance at peace.

An uncomfortable truth.

 

[Chipmunk]

This smells a lot like the central coast house thing. So Dutton has never got an upgrade ? I guess being in opposition is about slow erosion of confidence. So I get it. People who live in glass houses Potato Head, you know they will check now.

As it happened: Dutton criticises Albanese over reported upgrade calls to Qantas boss; Greens blame Labor for Queensland election result

Read the national news headlines for Monday, October 28.

www.smh.com.au

I think the argument has turned to whether or not it is appropriate for the Government official who was responsible for aviation regulation to be calling the CEO of Qantas (the largest aviation company in the country) requesting upgrades for personal travel during the same period.

 

[Gronk]

Well you’re wasting my time if you think the Democrats and the Biden White House will stop the massacre. Let the record show their inertia and confusion on the issue.

OK well I was expressing my disappointment at the world for watching the genocide unfold. I think we all know that the USA is complicit here. Both sides of politics have blood on their hands. Of you want to keep playing the Biden game then go right ahead. It's pretty transparent why.

I know our (Labor) government are trying their very best to be diplomatic here. Object to the genocide, be friends with Israel and say "yes sir" to the USA. However when your neighbour continually beats his dog, there must be a time, when you slap his hand and say - enough!

 

[Gronk]

I think the argument has turned to whether or not it is appropriate for the Government official who was responsible for aviation regulation to be calling the CEO of Qantas (the largest aviation company in the country) requesting upgrades for personal travel during the same period.

On the basis that everyone seems to do it and the only "gotcha" here is that some specific upgrades coincided with his ministry is a bit of a nothing burger. As I said, I get what it is to be in opposition, but we all have skeletons in our closets. Not that these are actual skeletons, because they were fully disclosed. Just as Dutton's upgrades were.

The Chairman's Lounge is a rort and a rort for all parties. Let's just not be too hypocritical about it.

Cushy Qantas perks in Chairman’s Lounge book shine spotlight on travel habits of Albanese and others

Prime minister allegedly used personal relationship with former Qantas CEO Alan Joyce to request free upgrades on flights

www.theguardian.com

This all came about after Joe Aston (FinReview, Crikey) released his book on Joyce. Merkins latched on to one paragraph that was in the public register anyway. Merkins just didn't look.

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[King-Gutho94]

Alan Joyce is the person everyone should be calling for to be hung, drawn and quartered.

The little Irish weasel might have made a profit for Qantas which was probably his job in the end.

But he destroyed the Qantas reputation in the process and left for his successors to clean up the mess.

Anyone that has dealt with the customer service for Qantas for the past 5 or 6 years would know its an absolute basket-case in there for an global business when it comes to dealing with customers.

Its beyond disgraceful the amount of times i and others have wasted on the phone previously trying to sort out issues with credits/flights and other issues.

 

[Chipmunk]

On the basis that everyone seems to do it and the only "gotcha" here is that some specific upgrades coincided with his ministry is a bit of a nothing burger. As I said, I get what it is to be in opposition, but we all have skeletons in our closets. Not that these are actual skeletons, because they were fully disclosed. Just as Dutton's upgrades were.

The Chairman's Lounge is a rort and a rort for all parties. Let's just not be too hypocritical about it.

Cushy Qantas perks in Chairman’s Lounge book shine spotlight on travel habits of Albanese and others

Prime minister allegedly used personal relationship with former Qantas CEO Alan Joyce to request free upgrades on flights

www.theguardian.com

This all came about after Joe Aston (FinReview, Crikey) released his book on Joyce. Merkins latched on to one paragraph that was in the public register anyway. Merkins just didn't look.

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So I assume you would've also been comfortable with Barnaby Joyce calling Alan Joyce to request the same upgrades whilst he was also the Minister responsible for aviation?

 

[Gronk]

So I assume you would've also been comfortable with Barnaby Joyce calling Alan Joyce to request the same upgrades whilst he was also the Minister responsible for aviation?

Mate CH7 had Dutton on last night using the corruption word. TBH If was a minister and I didn't get upgraded automatically, I would be pissed. They work 7 days a week for peanuts. Perks are few.

A mate of mine has a PHD and flys a Lot. His Qantas bookings has his name as Dr XXXXX XXXX and he gets nod nod wink wink upgrades all the time. He just hopes that no merkin has a heart attack mid flight, cos then he will be screwed.

Yes, he's living a Seinfeld episode.

 

[Chipmunk]

Mate CH7 had Dutton on last night using the corruption word. TBH If was a minister and I didn't get upgraded automatically, I would be pissed. They work 7 days a week for peanuts. Perks are few.

A mate of mine has a PHD and flys a Lot. His Qantas bookings has his name as Dr XXXXX XXXX and he gets nod nod wink wink upgrades all the time. He just hopes that no merkin has a heart attack mid flight, cos then he will be screwed.

Yes, he's living a Seinfeld episode.

So you're comfortable with the single regulator of the aviation sector to be able to just ring up the largest organisation they're required to regulate and request something that would otherwise cost up to $10,000 or more each time?

 

[Gronk]

So you're comfortable with the single regulator of the aviation sector to be able to just ring up the largest organisation they're required to regulate and request something that would otherwise cost up to $10,000 or more each time?

I think I have answered the question. I don't care. Dutton and Albo should fly at the pointy end.

 

[Chipmunk]

I think I have answered the question. I don't care. Dutton and Albo should fly at the pointy end

So you'd also be comfortable with local government councillors receiving significant discounts on apartment purchases for developments that they will provide development approval for?

 

[Gronk]

So you'd also be comfortable with local government councillors receiving significant discounts on apartment purchases for developments that they will provide development approval for?

OK this is getting weird.

 

[Chipmunk]

OK this is getting weird.

How so?