OT - In these weird times

[Matua]

Yep - I thought the article was interesting...

No right or wrong here, sadly

In all honesty I think both the NZ and Oz govt are managing this fairly well considering. It's something neither has had any control over and they're both trying their best to manage the health and economic risks. I just wish the Oz govt would give a bit more clarity. I like that I can still rock up to the shopping mall if I need to (I'm choosing not to outside of the supermarket), but if I can do that and be exposed to every counter in JB Hifi and every person in there, then why can't I walk three abreast in public (TBF I probably could because as I've mentioned in various threads I've seen this flouted constantly, but why can't I do it legally).

 

[JJ]

In all honesty I think both the NZ and Oz govt are managing this fairly well considering. It's something neither has had any control over and they're both trying their best to manage the health and economic risks. I just wish the Oz govt would give a bit more clarity. I like that I can still rock up to the shopping mall if I need to (I'm choosing not to outside of the supermarket), but if I can do that and be exposed to every counter in JB Hifi and every person in there, then why can't I walk three abreast in public (TBF I probably could because as I've mentioned in various threads I've seen this flouted constantly, but why can't I do it legally).

Me too - my concern is we need to get out of lockdown as quickly as possible - loss of jobs, careers and businesses will impact people for many years... I fear for my generation and the younger ones moreso...

 

[Matua]

Me too - my concern is we need to get out of lockdown as quickly as possible - loss of jobs, careers and businesses will impact people for many years... I fear for my generation and the younger ones moreso...

Oh hell yeah, I've had a few friends lose jobs here in OZ, even in the partial lockdown. The sooner we come out of it the better.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

The NZ govt are doing well enough to be drawing praise from international media on their handling of it so far (Adern was one of 5 leaders name checked by Al Jazeera as having stepped up). Australia aren’t doing as well but are by no means bungling it, they’re just failing a bit on the clarity of messaging front, which isn’t helped by having both state and federal government involved.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Me too - my concern is we need to get out of lockdown as quickly as possible - loss of jobs, careers and businesses will impact people for many years... I fear for my generation and the younger ones moreso...

nobody wants to be in lockdown but nobody wants to be dead either. My workplace just had to send 17 people home into self isolation because a colleague tested positive. Fingers crossed we don’t now have a workplace cluster.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

[QUOTE="Matua, post: 14069413,]then why can't I walk three abreast in public (TBF I probably could because as I've mentioned in various threads I've seen this flouted constantly, but why can't I do it legally).[/QUOTE]
I’m glad they’re citing walking three abreast as an issue, multiple times I’ve been out for a daily walk/jog and ended up in the gutter/road trying to maintain distance from people coming the other way walking abreast and taking up most of the pavement without the courtesy or self awareness to move into single file while passing me. If people were more sensible government wouldn’t have to spell this stuff out.

 

[JJ]

nobody wants to be in lockdown but nobody wants to be dead either. My workplace just had to send 17 people home into self isolation because a colleague tested positive. Fingers crossed we don’t now have a workplace cluster.

Sure but it’s not lockdown or die...

Lancet article best estimate of death rate is 0.66%

Average age of death in Italy is >80 with if I recall correctly 2 comorbidities...

At some stage they need to make hard choices, we all hope they get them right...

 

[Big Marn]

If people were more sensible

Sometimes thats a hard ask....

 

[Blair]

I’m glad they’re citing walking three abreast as an issue, multiple times I’ve been out for a daily walk/jog and ended up in the gutter/road trying to maintain distance from people coming the other way walking abreast and taking up most of the pavement without the courtesy or self awareness to move into single file while passing me. If people were more sensible government wouldn’t have to spell this stuff out.

You should've been here two weeks ago, it was thickos all over place, no one 'getting it' in regard to keeping a safe distance from others.

Believe me, things have gotten better.

Our work has put up big 'piss-off' screens to keep the thickos off us, who are sort of left to fight it out amongst themselves now. We estimate (and this is Australia in general) that 20-30 percent of the population still refuse to play ball with the social distancing and I see that at work and on the street.

A few anecdotes,

1) an older gent, who kept creeping up on a woman in line, who kept telling him to back the hell up. She ended up in tears. I had to play both security guard and counsellor.

2) This mum, who thought it was amusing that her hyper young son tried to climb up and stick his head through the hole in our new screens and say 'hello man! Hello man! Hello man!' I told him, in nice words, to 'back the hell away, kid' and he ran off, fell on the ground in a ball with his head in his hands and started bawling. Mum said 'sorry, his emotions are all over the place at the moment'. Well, mum, there's signs up now enforcing the social-distancing, which includes emotionally unpredictable kids.

3) Two young joggers thinking (or not thinking, probably) it was OK to run right in front of this 70 year old woman, as she waited at the curb, ready to cross the road. It was windy too, and the direction was towards her. They should've mounted the footpath and run behind her, which would've given her two metres of space easily, as it was she got about two feet. She was waiting at the curb before the joggers decided to turn around and head back her way, so it's not like she was at fault.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Sure but it’s not lockdown or die...

Lancet article best estimate of death rate is 0.66%

Average age of death in Italy is >80 with if I recall correctly 2 comorbidities...

At some stage they need to make hard choices, we all hope they get them right...

0.66% at a 70% infection rate would be 20,000 dead in NZ. That’s still what we’re facing if we let it run through the community, assuming other factors don’t push the death rate higher.

 

[jaseg]

We're having similar experiences with the elderly... they don't seem to understand that for the most part what is going on here is younger generations are suffering, many will lose their jobs, and more, so protect them from a virus that is dangerous to them... and much less dangerous to others...

Driving me a bit nuts...

Yep.

Ended up buying her an iPad, syncing it to her apple account and putting zoom/skype/houseparty/netflix on there then setting up her TV to mirror it, and a dock on the coffee table for the iPad itself.

I don't think she's left since. Good thing for unlimited internet... but not sure how long this will last, lol

 

[Beavers Headgear]

1 of life’s real winners down here filmed himself deliberately coughing on people at the supermarket and uploaded it, shows the intelligence of the bloke. His Facebook profile shows what an absolute wanker he is, and this is some of his previous work

http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/398916/Christchurch-bottle-bomber-jailed

Personally I’d prefer the cops left the general public to deal with him

 

[TheDMC]

if you want to do a sneaky fish at ota I’d be driving to the otawaiwere side and walking down from there, too many eyes on the west end approach.

Wont be many eyes at 4am hehe

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Wont be many eyes at 4am hehe

haha just chuck a line off the beach then... or put a kontiki out before dawn and go home, then come back mid morning and pull it in

 

[shiznit]

Anyone else find it hilarious that the taxpayers union has applied for over 60K in wage subsidies from the govt??

working in the public sector for as long as I have I’ve seen them attack financial support packages on so many different occasions and now they are lining up for their payment.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Anyone else find it hilarious that the taxpayers union has applied for over 60K in wage subsidies from the govt??

working in the public sector for as long as I have I’ve seen them attack financial support packages on so many different occasions and now they are lining up for their payment.

Everyone’s suddenly a socialist when they need some help, haha

 

[shiznit]

Everyone’s suddenly a socialist when they need some help, haha

I honestly struggle to see how their business is affected by the pandemic.

they are basically a lobby group who rely’s on private donations from whatever companies interest they are pushing.

I’m pretty f**king sure they can work from home.

In all honesty i think the govt should be taking a long hard look at them and whether they have provided false information to get this funding.

i just can’t see how you can make the argument that their business has dropped 30% due to the pandemic.

From what had been reported for the past year they were going broke as companies had stopped funding them.

bunch of hypocrite crooks if you ask me...

 

[Mr Angry]

Is Stacey OK?

 

[Blair]

...bunch of hypocrite crooks if you ask me...

They'd just be making a 'point' of doing this, I reckon. They'll feel particularly entitled at this current time.

As for the public service, it's been eroded for nearly forty years, as you'll know. And for what?

 

[Blair]

Is Stacey OK?

He's swatting up on first grade coaching manuals.