Ot- qantas

[Snoop Shark]

I dont believe in domestic violence but I think that bloke who is engaged to Julia should belt the fu&* out of her....and I dont mean the kinky way

 

[spider]

She may already be prone to the odd ear grab - anyone noticed the size of her ear lobes

Huge I tell ya.

 

[sharknows]

Not as big as Billy McMahon's I bet!

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Not as big as Billy McMahon's I bet!

She probably looks like Billy in another spot.

 

[Quigs]

Prime Minister Gillard, well she is looking more Prime Ministerial every day. CHOGM, G20, meeting all those world leaders and gee they were impressed. Meeting the Queen, and then soon to entertain Obama.

What a statesperson.

Poor Tony NoNo must be really angry that he didnt get the keys to the Lodge. Imagine him up there before the G20 leaders letting rip on our behalf. But he has experience he has entertained Lord Monkton and he meets our Queen, Her Magesty Alan Gloria Jones regularly.

So I wonder if Tone could still be the man

The way he went to bat for all the Qantas Passengers, the Pilots and all the employees when the Irishman instigated illegal Lockout action. Tony NONO travels the countryside protecting the rights of the workers....

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Think you will find the Qants action was completely legal.
As for it being a lockout, well, he WAS a lefty scumbag before he grew up. Just a tactic he learned in a previous lifetime i'm guessing.

 

[Quigs]

As for it being a lockout, well, he WAS a lefty scumbag before he grew up. Just a tactic he learned in a previous lifetime i'm guessing.

There you go again believing everything you read in the Papers. That was from the Fluff piece last sunday. Yeah Yeah.


Sung to the tune of I go to Rio...

Hit it..........

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When my workers .....
When my workers get to demanding'
I try a Rio ... a Rio Tinto
When the Pilots ...
When the Pilots wear red ties
I do a lockout
A workers lock out.
Now I'm the kind of person
With a passionate persuasion for shaftin
The Qantas Brand-in
An' f**k the passengers - thats a given
As I count my dollars like the beatin of my hear-eart

Woh-ho-oh-ho, when my Qantas
my Qantas is all farko I'll go to Singo
Air Sing-oh-poreo,
see - I'm a Slimey fellow
then the C.E.O smiles at me
The Board will lighten up my li-ife
and Qantas stuffed at last, what a blast

 

[Quigs]

So with Tony NONo out of the country selling his arse in the UK during the time that the Clean Air Legislation went through. The same piece of legislation that NoNo made members fly back from the States to be in Parliament, the same legislation that he wouldn't allow his shadow minister Malcolm to have leave to attend a State Funeral for a friend. The passing of the legislation where no members were allowed to be paired... now NoNo has flown off to attend a Pommy Tory Union Meeting.

He drew his battle lines and couldn't even hang around to face the Press after the passing of the act.

Well this is where your Impact Bench players should run on and show their full mantle. Guess who is acting Leader of the Opposition while NoNo is away.

Yep... Warren f**king TRUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. He is your annointed #2. I suppose its better than Barnyard. He is pissed 24/7.

I've heard a rumour that NoNo has trouble in the camp. Not the political one, the domestic one. That could explain a lot. It's hush hush at the moment. Even Murdochs mob is keeping it quiet. Just a rumour mind you Reefy but could be big announcements soon. Psssts keep it under your hat.

 

[Vin Fizz]

Just for the record lads and lasses, when you refer to Qantas in the context of this dispute it is Qantas mainline only. I believe Mr Joyce grounded about 109 aircraft from the mainline fleet (domestic and International). The total Qantas group including Jetstar, Qantas link, Jetstar Asia and a couple of other subsidiaries (National Jet, Australian Air Express i think may be some among others) remained in the air and on schedule. The entire fleet is 252 aircraft. The red kangaroo is alive and well.... its just wearing different colours in some instances. BTW those susbidiaries have the business model that Joyce wants replicted in the mainline. Worth noting that...anyway carry on. The sport is great

 

[Quigs]

That's correct Vinny. And Qantas apparently has dived deep end into some of the group Jetstar, Qantas link, Jetstar Asia and a couple of other subsidiaries .

So Joycey lobs up and tells da world dat Qantas is bleedin to det - dyin by a tousand cuts... etc etc. But who knows how munch they are losing from the group you just kindly mentioned.

JUST FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL.

I reckon its just bad management and we can't blame the board can we.

As I tell my learned friends Reef and Spide, the truth is out there and if lil Joycey has to produce all dah books to Prime Minister Gillards Fair Work Aust. for compulsory arbitration, it might just get very interesting.

 

[Quigs]

Breaking News: Abbott in UK to ask the #QUEEN to dismiss PM Gillard because “she lied”

 

[spider]

its good you acknowledge she is a liar quigs

was amusing on the news last night watching countless replays of the PM during her pre-election campaign saying she would not be implementing a carbon tax

looking forward to the campaign next election, im sure the voters will be reminded of how well she deceived them all

 

[Quigs]

its good you acknowledge she is a liar quigs

was amusing on the news last night watching countless replays of the PM during her pre-election campaign saying she would not be implementing a carbon tax

looking forward to the campaign next election, im sure the voters will be reminded of how well she deceived them all

"In the heat of verbal combat people say things ...."

This bloke explains it all. He knows a bit about saying things and not saying things

"It didn't represent my true position"

 

[Quigs]

Incase you missed some of it Spide..

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KERRY O'BRIEN: But what you haven't explained is how you can make one promise in one month and then completely change it the next. What happened in that month where you had this sudden explosion of vision?

TONY ABBOTT: Well, again, Kerry, people will make their own judgments about me and if they ...

KERRY O'BRIEN: No, but I'd like you to explain it. Tony Abbott feels with conviction we will not have a new tax in any way, shape or form, we won't have a new tax; a month later, you do.

TONY ABBOTT: Well, again Kerry, I know politicians are gonna be judged on everything they say, but sometimes, in the heat of discussion, you go a little bit further than you would if it was an absolutely calm, considered, prepared, scripted remark, which is one of the reasons why the statements that need to be taken absolutely as gospel truth is those carefully prepared scripted remarks.

KERRY O'BRIEN: So every time you make a statement, we have to ask you whether it's carefully prepared and scripted or whether it's just something on the fly? No, seriously; this is a very serious question.

TONY ABBOTT: But all of us, Kerry, all of us when we're in the heat of verbal combat, so to speak, will sometimes say things that go a little bit further.

KERRY O'BRIEN: Mr Abbott, we're not all leaders of major political parties who are either Prime Minister or aspiring to be.

TONY ABBOTT: True, true, true.

KERRY O'BRIEN: Would you agree there is extra onus on you ...

TONY ABBOTT: Absolutely right. Absolutely right.

KERRY O'BRIEN: ... to be accurate and honest and make promises that can be trusted?

TONY ABBOTT: Absolutely right.

KERRY O'BRIEN: But that time, you couldn't?

TONY ABBOTT: But the thing is I made a statement in a radio interview in February and then I think in March I made a commitment to paid parental leave. Now, ...

KERRY O'BRIEN: Which was the opposite of what you'd said the month before.

TONY ABBOTT: Well, it wasn't absolutely consistent with what I said the month before.

KERRY O'BRIEN: It was the opposite! One month you say no new tax, the next month you say a $2.7 billion tax.

TONY ABBOTT: OK. This is an argument that we could well have had in March and we did have it in March and a lot of people pointed out back then that there was a bit of inconsistency and I accept that. There is a bit of inconsistency.

KERRY O'BRIEN: Is that why your colleagues over the years have come to call you "The Weathervane"?


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Link to full interview ... if you want the facts, or a laugh, or an eyeopener.

 

[Quigs]

Mr Chairman

Question from the floor without notice

What seat does Tony NoNo represent?

 

[Vin Fizz]

That's correct Vinny. And Qantas apparently has dived deep end into some of the group Jetstar, Qantas link, Jetstar Asia and a couple of other subsidiaries .

So Joycey lobs up and tells da world dat Qantas is bleedin to det - dyin by a tousand cuts... etc etc. But who knows how munch they are losing from the group you just kindly mentioned.

JUST FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL.

I reckon its just bad management and we can't blame the board can we.

As I tell my learned friends Reef and Spide, the truth is out there and if lil Joycey has to produce all dah books to Prime Minister Gillards Fair Work Aust. for compulsory arbitration, it might just get very interesting.

I just see it as being simpler than that Quigs. Everyone loves the cheap flights, but who among us elect to take them when a cheaper alternative without all the service is on offer? It’s like the sharkies, if you want them to survive and keep the jobs in Aus then show them the money, rather than taking the Virgin, Tiger or any other lower cost point to point operators.

Qantas have ridden their luck. Good on them. They are a network hub and spoke airline in a market being dominated by lower cost point to point operators with lower overheads as a result.

Sept 13 2001 Ansett fall over. The fledgling Virgin Blue get a much needed boost, Qantas get an automatic increase in load factors from about 70 to the high 80's and 90's and even 100% on some routes. The writing was on the wall for the Roo prior to that point. BA who was a 25% stakeholder had already balied out having their own issues. The impact of the emergence of competitors such as Impulse and Virgin is tempered by the Ansett collapse. It gave them time to adjust. Qantas merge Eastern, Southern and (read buy out) Mr McGowan’s Impulse operation and developed up the Qantas Link arm. The Australian Airlines arm which served the Japanese market continues on. In most analyst minds it was set up as a business template to transfer the Qantas "brand" (not the logo) to a new more cost efficient airline under the guise of serving a niche market. This arguably had never been successfully achieved by a major carrier anywhere in the world prior to that point BTW. Track onward a couple of years and Qantas establish Jetstar primarily using the lessons learned from Australian (which is subsequently wound into Jetstar) and experience from around the world of setting up low cost carrier operations. Qantas also bail out one of the Air New Zealand operations, again using this same business model.

The key to all those is the labour expense being at international levels, however a considerable discount to what Qantas mainline were shelling out and what Aussies are used to. Fast forward to today. To continue to operate under the old model they have to reduce the labour cost by getting people to accept a lower rate or taking the support roles to somewhere that will. If you prefer the mainline model then you have to pay the extra to fly them. It’s beginning to remind me of the Concorde. Too expensive but nevertheless a wonderful thing. I’m flying Qantas thanks.

 

[Quigs]

Vin you obviously have a good grasp of this.

My view is that Qantas has over-reached and things are coming home to roost.

They had a good healthy percentage of the domestic market.

A thorough investigation into the books will reveal where what and when.

I have a little motto stuck up on my wall. It goes like this "If you go around sh!tting in your own nest then one day you will walk in it"

I have a hunch it is not the austalian end of Qantas that is the problem. If they provided the product and concentrated on the product instead of expanding and taking over or creating offshoots... (these if not successful are the money burners in my books)

Joycee has farked up .... my opinion.

Edit... and if they were dyin the det of a tousand coots, how come they can now off $25 million dollars worth of FREE FLIGHTS to get disgruntled customers back. 25 mill is a big chunk of a business.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Joyce has not pharked up. The guy is Unit4 100% result, university actuarian.
I think I might take his word beofe your "philosophy" Quigs.
He is 100% correct & legal in his actions.
f**k the greedy unions. f**k the greedy maintenance staff & f**k the over paid bus drivers.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

On the biggest mandate betrayal in australain political history, i will point out to the floor, why this tax is popular with some Australians.
I will direct the question to a representative of %5 of the population. Mr Quigs, how much extra will you pay each year now the carbon tax has been introduced? This after you receive the tax concessions.
I am self employed, own 2 properties & 1 business.
My accountant says I will pay around $1500-2000 extra each year.

I am expecting that Quigs will in fact, pay nothing.

Wouldn't it be great to be a in a postion where you could champion something, that other people have to pay for?

 

[Quigs]

Saw this tweet... just had to post it

Ha ha ha, how quick the #MSMhacks have turned against Abbott:

Latest: Paul Kelly joins the Abbott lynching mob: Oakes, Farr, Tingle, PVO, Pascoe, Coorey, Uhlmann & Taylor.will keep counting #auspol