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[Alex28]

im sorry if the last point is bitchy, ive tried to be as nice as possible, but jesus christ..... sometimes its like arguing with five year olds, really it is

Roy's entitled to his opinion as much as any one Parki - it's this kinda stuff that just isn't necessary...

 

[PrideKnight]

Parki's just very undiplomatically said, "go read the whole thread before re-kindling an argument" he apologised for it

 

[Parki]

yeah, but when the point has been argued on the last 7 pages, it irritates me

it has nothing to do with an opinion really, it has more to do with the fact that i personally am getting tired of arguing the point over and over and over again

i apologise for my bitchiness once again

 

[The_Joey_Show]

This is the 103rd reply to this thread.

I'm sure we are all on the same page. We all stand by our actions when we were, in our personal opinions, standing up for something that we thought was right.

Similarly, we all regret and seek apologies for times when our emotion has got the better of us and we have crossed the line.

We all want to see the LU forums, and in particular this forum, thrive and prosper. We will help to make this happen by being more active posters and not being scared to start a thread once in a while.

We all want to see the Crusade continue to grow in it's support for our team.

NOW, can we all stop running around this race course and get on with talking some football??

 

[Frederick]

So how about them Knights, eh?

 

[RABK]

Personally - I'm an extremely argumentive person on this forum. I don't take a backward step when discussing or aguing a topic or point and i nearly always get over agro or agressive. But a lot of the time i give as good as i get.

None the less this is something i have tried to ammend and i think i have over the past week or so i have taken steps towards that. And i do apologize to the members such as Alex that i always seem to lose my cool with.

Roopy, Antonius, Cram etc i have a lot of respect for as they contribute a lot to this board and have for a long time. I'm sorry if i've ever come across as disrespectful.

But i do feel like i contribute a lot to this forum, in particular the footy section. I hardly ever post in either the Crusade or Social forums. The majority of my posts are in the NRL forum to tell the truth, a place where me and Johns Magic can be seen in our daily bouts with rival fans.

I'm controversial, very, very controversial infact but that's just me. Like i said i'm toning the agro down and trying to contribute to and create a lot more positive footy discussion.

I use to start a thread a day on all sorts of things but i rarely do this anymore as they always turned into 14 page sh*t fights. :lol: I'll probably start doing this again hopefully minus the sh*t and fan...





Ok - On the Crusade forum. As has been said, we need to remain loyal to LU as without them the Crusade would not exist. What ever little exposure we can give the site and what ever little way we can contribute to the site it's all valuable to the LU team.

We were complained against when we didn't have our own forum because 90% of the topics on the sole forum become Crusade related.

The Crusade forum is neccesary!!!

We share so much private info and moments together in there. Would you and your close friends give out your personaly information and photos of yourselves on the piss together out for public viewing???

It's there, and it's there for a very good reason. I hope this can be cleaned up in the next few days with the introduction of a Crusade thread in the footy forum.

Personally, apart from stuff that will benefit our continued growth, i don't want any Crusade related material made public. We are a bunch of ratbags, passionate and highly professional when we wana be, but for the most part just a bunch of guys and girls who have a great social atmosphere going at all knights games.

But stuff liek our road trips, our parties and our night outs - you guys simply have no right to hear about any of that. That's personal and should always remain that way.

 

[Ben]

My Opinion:
Personally, I don't find anything wrong with what the Crusade is doing in regards to the Private forum that they have set up. It wasn't established to exclude or prohibit others, but to protect the personal information of others. The infighting within the forums has grown exponentially, and it has now reached a point where everything needs to be solved. In my opinion, this infighting hasn't been caused by the Crusade forum. It has been caused by a couple of exertive individuals that show plenty of passion for their team and may be part of a group called the Crusade or not. Don't blame the Crusade for what has happened.

For the forums to advance, new members have to sign-up and get actively involved in the Knights forums. Personally, I've asked a number of Knights fans that I know to join the forums, because its a great community to discuss what you are passionate about - in our case, it just so happens to be about the Knights. What they find difficult, is making the first post. They read the forums and they see that indivuals get abused because their opinion isn't identicle to someone else's opinion. Then the new member is not sure if their post is going to fare properly with other members. I'm sure everyone on this forum would've found it difficult to make their first post as well.

 

[gumbi]

Hey all,

First post...here we go.

Been reading for about a year, never felt the need to post until now. This forum used to be my 15 mins of escapism every day at work.....these days it takes me only 2 mins or so to skim through all the latest posts and info....meaning i'm completing an additional 13 mins of work a day....unacceptable.

So, as an outsider an observation:

- Lighten up........a lot of you seem to have forgotten that this is a forum, to discuss the Knights, other RL matters and whatever else takes your fancy. Opinions expressed here are just an extension of that discussion you have on your way home from the game with your friends, at the pub, in the office/schoolyard on Monday morning, at training on Tuesday etc. Nothing serious, just ideas/opinions...let it flow ladies and gents...

On that note...hi to all....i will make an effort to actually contribute from now on.

Cheers.

 

[RABK]

Welcome to the madhouse gumbi.

Join the Crusade!

Oh and vote Quimby!

 

[Gene Krupa]

Personally, I don't see the private forum as an issue. Although it seems to be a bigger one than most people will admit. The Raiders, Sharks and Parra forums have private forums and no-one complains about that. Hell, there are two in the Chokenulla forum!

I think this has been blown completely out of proportion. As Tony said in his first post, he didn't want this to turn into a sh!t fight. And what have we got? A 3 page crap factory! I don't like some posters on here, but I can deal with that. But, and I may be guilty of doing some of this myself, we have pushed away alot of great contributers who, like them or not, brought alot to the Knights forum. I long for the days when we had our regular NON-Knights fans such as Kaz and mOjO. There are too many Knights posters gone to list here. I understand full where Tony is coming from. FFS! We were once the highest posted on team forum in this place. Let's all work together to get back there again.

I know I'm going to try really hard to be more accepting from now on.

There, that's my piece said on the subject. Let's all get back to posting and loving the greatest team on the face of the earth! The Newcastle Knights!

 

[astrogirl]

Been reading for about a year, never felt the need to post until now. This forum used to be my 15 mins of escapism every day at work.....these days it takes me only 2 mins or so to skim through all the latest posts and info....meaning i'm completing an additional 13 mins of work a day....unacceptable.

Welcome gumbi. 13 minutes of extra work?! No way!

 

[roopy]

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Rockdale
Posts: 12,000

Congrats - a good number R&B - I've been here from day one and don't come near that.

 

[RABK]

11,000 are in the Fight Club and NRL forum though. :LOL:

 

[TooheysNew]

Is there any real need for the private forums on this site? The crusade forum is yes for members of the crusade only, why does it need to be on this site. The league unlimited forum imo should have all its forums open I don’t see why we need private forums for the few groups in here.

I think if that’s allowed why can’t a group of ten of us make our own private forum on this site and so on. The crusade may need to have its own talk call it what you will but why on an open site like this.

Being a relatively new poster on this forum you get the felling “that’s there own special group they can post what they want in there you cant see it ha-ha” Like someone said before it’s like high school groups.

I’m not having a go at the crusade I think it’s great what they have done, I just think when new people see things like that it gives them the feeling as there not apart of the forum.

Yes there is a need. Different forums for different users. They all get used, and it's not hurting anyway, so there's no real problem.

However that's not the discussion anyway.

People can think what they like about the Crusade Forum, but the simple fact is, it's here to stay, and it will only contain Crusade related stuff. I can name 30 or 40 others sites off the top of my head who have hidden forums, and none of those have any problem with new registrations thinking that they aren't part of the group. That's not the issue. The issue is people being unfriendly toward new members.

People make other people feel welcome. Not the forum itself.

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

I think you make a very good point JM, and the solution lies in providing a balance

an indication of this is the fact that we are going to try and be more inclusive in terms of our social aspects of what we post, but once again it comes down to this point

there has to be give and take, from both sides.... maybe we have become too introverted within ourselves, and excluded people, which was totally not our point, but from my point of view its been forced upon us by various misconceptions and ideas from people. Ive already touched on it before this, so I dont want to go into it again

bottom line is this.... I asked it before, but ill ask it again. We are not going to give up our crusade forum as it forms the basis of everything we do. Realistically we have a lot of things in there that we need for us to survive as a group, that we dont want anybody else seeing, and im sorry if thats rude, thats just the way it is

That being said, what can we do to make things better? we are never going to get things back to the way they were, but maybe if we post a few more crusadey things in the social/footy parts of the forums, it might go a long way to ease the infighting?

just some suggestions

PK suggested that you's could have moved and created a seperate forum on your crusade website.

Instead of that why not have as suggested the disclaimer here giving all the info on the crusade how to join ect ect, still post here for footy related stuff and chuckles in the social forum.

But have a board on the crusade website, I honestly dont think anyone would be fussed and it would remove the division on this board as it would only be used for what it was originally intended to and the crusaders would have a place to pots in peace.

Just my two bits.

 

[antonius]

Some great discussion in the thread, and I think it has served to mend a few bridges (I know it has in my case) and open up a few areas that were a little mysterious to some members of the forums. I really think a lot of the problems come from miss-information, or for that matter no information. The intended Crusade stickie will go a long way to easing the uneasyness for newbies, and for that matter some of us older members. Like I said in the original post, it's not just about the Crusade issues, the wider issues are our attitudes to each other, and what we can do to get the forum back to it's old busy self. Think back to how it was, when we had Andy cracking his jokes, Kaz winding everyone up, UT with his querky posts, Ian G with his thoughts posts, Thuga with his insights, they are all usefull contributions and the many opposition fans that used to visit here, those are the things that we are missing, diversity is what makes a forum successful.

 

[B-dos]

Yep, i think this thread has served its purpose in bringing a few things to light and letting people air their opinions while giving everyone chance to hear other people’s viewpoints.

It has also raised the very valid point (which to a degree was lost for a while in this thread) that our forum is not what it used to be and it seems like everyone has noticed this and wants to restore it to its former glory. There has already been a few new threads spring up and gumbi has joined the fray. I think we are moving forward and its great to see.

 

[TooheysNew]

PK suggested that you's could have moved and created a seperate forum on your crusade website.

Instead of that why not have as suggested the disclaimer here giving all the info on the crusade how to join ect ect, still post here for footy related stuff and chuckles in the social forum.

But have a board on the crusade website, I honestly dont think anyone would be fussed and it would remove the division on this board as it would only be used for what it was originally intended to and the crusaders would have a place to pots in peace.

Just my two bits.

To be honest I think that's fueled by a bit of a dislike for some of the Crusade. Not trying to be rude, just calling it as I see it. There is absolutely no point in the Crusade moving to another board, it would be a silly idea for all concerned.

Firstly the Crusade wouldn't get exposure, secondly this forum would suffer because a lot of people wouldn't check both places, thirdly the Crusade gets everything it needs here and has no reason to leave.

If you have a reason you think it would be better to move, go for it, fill me in - perhaps i'm missing something. It just looks like you just want us gone.

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

Dilmah the way I was looking at it was that all crusade related stuff ie the contact details and such that you guys for just reasons want to keep private could be done on the crusade website via a forum there.

Meaning the crusade section would be removed and as such the perception of their being the them and us.

And when you guys on here then you's can just post away as normal and that them and us attitude is more reduced.

The crusade would still promoted via Parki's weekly article in the social forum showing the antics the crusade gets up too and the good time you guys have, and like he pointed out people can either think I want a part of that or nah not my bag baby.

Also the sticky thread in the main part of the knights giving the details of how to get involved still giving you's plenty of exposure.

And that way people dont have the black cloud hovering above them making them wary(personally it doesnt fuss me and I actually requested to be blocked from the crusade forum as I was very disinterested and am only interested in the footy side of things)

I dont want you's gone I just want to get a bit of courtesy and stop getting called a backstabber, c**k, and numerous other offensive remarks when ever I venture my oppinion.

 

[TooheysNew]

This forum is linked to the crusade website, so for all intents and purposes this is THE crusade forum. It's private, so it's perfect for confidential details, while at the same time it allows us to get members from LeagueUnlimited as well as through our website.

It just needs to be managed a bit better.

You said yourself

And when you guys on here then you's can just post away as normal and that them and us attitude is more reduced.

I think that's part of the problem. The attitude. Any posts not made in the Crusade Forum are not crusade posts, and should be read as such. I'm not sure I know what you mean by saying post normally.

I don't think there is a black cloud - or at least there won't be when it is managed properly.

I think your overreacting.