Our home crowds.

[txta2]

In saying people....do you mean beetroot head?....cause he's just a bitter kaarrnnt who talks out his arse.

Him and his mobster buddy's

 

[Russell Crowe's Band]

yeah they are

but we have to fund the other half. so 16 mill gets given when we have 16 mil

 

[Eion]

The 16000 "break even" figure has to be to cover all football operations right? It can't seriously be a straight up game day cost of $400k + just to open the gates?

We do need that clarified. Maybe Dino was talking about currently, with sponsor and ground naming rights not filled.... Maybe he was hoping to spread a message that we really need to jack crowd numbers up and was being a bit deliberately ambiguous to get people along to the game.

But I would like to know what the number is to justify having a home ground. If it is genuinely 16.5k as a stand-alone cost that’s a real concern.

And a good point you make about taking a bigger game or 3 to a larger ground a la roosters having an ANZAC day game. But that requires NRL ongoing support to not duck shove us a Thursday night for a dig drawing dragons game for example.

 

[sharkman73]

Yeah remember that...so all these things would have to be taken into consideration i guess. Also the lost patronage at the club on those relocated game days would have to be taken into account.

Yep all good points.

yeah they are

but we have to fund the other half. so 16 mill gets given when we have 16 mil

I really hope we're not flushing $16m down the toilet. It's a lot of money, especially for us.

 

[taipan]

Yeah mate...should have made it clearer. My 28 million includes the 16 mill in grants by both the State and Federal governments towards the centre of excellence etc. My understanding is that the club were attempting to include some extra seating in conjunction with the centre of excellence (between the E.T and Monty Porter stands) but I'm not sure how far they got.

OK got it.Thanks champ.

 

[taipan]

Just a thoughty. When we play at Suncorp Stadium ,I always see on the box, decent numbers of the good guy's fans in their blue black and white.Maybe they are from Brisbane/Sunshine Coast and GC?

To me it's a no brainer.We play our home game against the Donkey's there, and get 20-23,000 which is a fair guess, surely that would provide many more Oxford Scholars ,than a 12-13,000 crowd at best at Shark Park.
If we have the cattle on the park, we should more than match the Donks on their home turf, not once,not twice,,but two times.
Am I being delusional ? Or is it a fair push of the pineapple? One home game sacrificed, til the Leagues club is up and running to its potential.

 

[M2D2]

Just a thoughty. When we play at Suncorp Stadium ,I always see on the box, decent numbers of the good guy's fans in their blue black and white.Maybe they are from Brisbane/Sunshine Coast and GC?

To me it's a no brainer.We play our home game against the Donkey's there, and get 20-23,000 which is a fair guess, surely that would provide many more Oxford Scholars ,than a 12-13,000 crowd at best at Shark Park.
If we have the cattle on the park, we should more than match the Donks on their home turf, not once,not twice,,but two times.
Am I being delusional ? Or is it a fair push of the pineapple? One home game sacrificed, til the Leagues club is up and running to its potential.

Would only be worth it if we played Brisbane up there or part of a double header/magic weekend.
Moving a game to the SFS is just pissing into the wind.

 

[sharkman73]

Just a thoughty. When we play at Suncorp Stadium ,I always see on the box, decent numbers of the good guy's fans in their blue black and white.Maybe they are from Brisbane/Sunshine Coast and GC?

To me it's a no brainer.We play our home game against the Donkey's there, and get 20-23,000 which is a fair guess, surely that would provide many more Oxford Scholars ,than a 12-13,000 crowd at best at Shark Park.
If we have the cattle on the park, we should more than match the Donks on their home turf, not once,not twice,,but two times.
Am I being delusional ? Or is it a fair push of the pineapple? One home game sacrificed, til the Leagues club is up and running to its potential.

It's an interesting one because Manly do this as well.

I wonder if the NRL would put a cap on how many away games Brisbane should be allowed per year? Then again it's the NRL, surprised every team isn't forced to take their home game against the Broncos to Suncorp.

I'd prefer to take games somewhere else tbh as long as the compensation made it worthwhile.

 

[Russell Crowe's Band]

Yep all good points.



I really hope we're not flushing $16m down the toilet. It's a lot of money, especially for us.

look I think its a huge concern.
the ground , IMO needs a lot of work top keep in NRL viable in the next 5,10 and 15 years

more than 30 million worth

so is it worth it? to build a COE thing there if we then move to the sfs anyway

 

[taipan]

Would only be worth it if we played Brisbane up there or part of a double header/magic weekend.
Moving a game to the SFS is just pissing into the wind.

Not the SFS ,but the new SFS maybe .Who knows .If it has hot cold running water,decent toilets ,and quality food without paying a fortune forgot may be a goer only once to check the lie of the land.
I think Suncorp for a year or two if they need to play one away, is the way to go.

 

[taipan]

It's an interesting one because Manly do this as well.

I wonder if the NRL would put a cap on how many away games Brisbane should be allowed per year? Then again it's the NRL, surprised every team isn't forced to take their home game against the Broncos to Suncorp.

I'd prefer to take games somewhere else tbh as long as the compensation made it worthwhile.

Look if the Oz Govt provided a grant to play the Warriors in Fiji,aa part of the Pacific aid program,I would be there with thongs on.If Adelaide was a goer ditto.
It's just that Suncorp gets the crowds regardless of who is there, and if it means extra bikkies for use ,so be it.

 

[M2D2]

Not the SFS ,but the new SFS maybe .Who knows .If it has hot cold running water,decent toilets ,and quality food without paying a fortune forgot may be a goer only once to check the lie of the land.
I think Suncorp for a year or two if they need to play one away, is the way to go.

The New SFS wont be finished til late 2022 (ignore where they say early 2022, its not happening, not with all the shit thats going on) By the 2023 season, we will have A VERY clear idea on if we are surviving, flourishing, or at deaths door.

 

[2012....Sharks Year]

yeah they are

but we have to fund the other half. so 16 mill gets given when we have 16 mil

Definitely the case with the 10 million grant for the COE but i dont think that's the case with the 6 mill. Does that mean we'd only have to stump up 4 mill to effectively meet the dollar for dollar 10 mill and effectively have the 20 mill available?

 

[Cheese sandwich]

Taking games elsewhere in Sydney seems a waste of time unless we're absolutely guaranteed a bigger crowd than what shark park can hold. Going to perth for a game is an absolute no-no to me as they'll probably go "oh that was successful you's can stay there".

If we want/have to take a game elsewhere make it unchartered territory and stick with it like Parramatta have with Darwin.

 

[2012....Sharks Year]

look I think its a huge concern.
the ground , IMO needs a lot of work top keep in NRL viable in the next 5,10 and 15 years

more than 30 million worth

so is it worth it? to build a COE thing there if we then move to the sfs anyway

Would only play at the SFS...would still be based at Shark Park. While the ground needs some work we're still miles in front of Brookie Leichardt and probably on a par with Kogarah and Win. I just dont see how we recoup our money through ground improvements. The leagues club ia a different kettle of fish if done nicely. Especially with the rest of the residential and hotel to come.

 

[Stake Removed]

Taking games elsewhere in Sydney seems a waste of time unless we're absolutely guaranteed a bigger crowd than what shark park can hold. Going to perth for a game is an absolute no-no to me as they'll probably go "oh that was successful you's can stay there".

If we want/have to take a game elsewhere make it unchartered territory and stick with it like Parramatta have with Darwin.

I think the Roosters take 2-3 games to Gosford each year.

We should be seeing what is on offer to take 2-3 games away, when playing say Titans, Raiders and maybe Cowboys.

See is tasmania govt puts up cash play Cowboys there
PNG govt see if they are interested play Raiders there
Fiji play Titans

There is no harm in us testing the water to see if its worthwhile, and at same time spread the brand, also make the teams you play travel max distance

 

[taipan]

The New SFS wont be finished til late 2022 (ignore where they say early 2022, its not happening, not with all the shit thats going on) By the 2023 season, we will have A VERY clear idea on if we are surviving, flourishing, or at deaths door.

We'll be surviving.cut the pessimism.

 

[M2D2]

We'll be surviving.cut the pessimism.

Im actually not as pessimistic as some of the folks who are already on the "lets only have 9 home games".
I just think by that time, the NRL will have shown their hand if they want to force us out or not.

 

[Card Shark]

Just a thoughty. When we play at Suncorp Stadium ,I always see on the box, decent numbers of the good guy's fans in their blue black and white.Maybe they are from Brisbane/Sunshine Coast and GC?

To me it's a no brainer.We play our home game against the Donkey's there, and get 20-23,000 which is a fair guess, surely that would provide many more Oxford Scholars ,than a 12-13,000 crowd at best at Shark Park.
If we have the cattle on the park, we should more than match the Donks on their home turf, not once,not twice,,but two times.
Am I being delusional ? Or is it a fair push of the pineapple? One home game sacrificed, til the Leagues club is up and running to its potential.

Not a bad idea mate but playing opposition teams on their home ground is a massive risk.

Good crowds is all about being a winning team. This creates a losing team...well encourages it anyway.

 

[taipan]

Not a bad idea mate but playing opposition teams on their home ground is a massive risk.

Good crowds is all about being a winning team. This creates a losing team...well encourages it anyway.

I tell you what champion,have the threat of a relocation axe due to finances being iffy, is a far ,far bigger risk, than giving the Donkeys another opportunity.I'd much prefer to watch our guys live and sweaty.

Totally agree about winning teams.But winning teams get smaller crowds with less weather cover when the p*ss rains down, than they would with more cover.Especially in suburban grounds.

That's why we need (here I go again) an ET stand extension to either goal lines, as a start.We may well increase membership for locals, well above the current numbers. And sell more private boxes.
If we are in a desperate situation, desperate times, require desperate moves.