Our run to the finals

[ACTPanthers]

That was directed at the other person, not you. Go on keep it up. I will will be the adult and move on.

But you quoted me anyway...? Right... I look forward to the next time you tell someone they're wrong because their opinion differs from yours, and then you'll call them misogynists because you want some kind of sympathy from the other female posters, even though nothing close to misogyny was mentioned... You're a special kind of person aren't you?

 

[OldPanther]

But you quoted me anyway...? Right... I look forward to the next time you tell someone they're wrong because their opinion differs from yours, and then you'll call them misogynists because you want some kind of sympathy from the other female posters, even though nothing close to misogyny was mentioned... You're a special kind of person aren't you?

I said the word attack. Maybe I misused the word who knows.

 

[betcats]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/03/11/strong-second-half-gets-panthers-home/

Watch Waqa's 2nd try. Moses in the bin, Norman in HIA. Cleary heads straight to a slower guy defending in the line to put Blake away.

That stuff is vision too not just flair

Draw and pass, well done.

Yeah... because Cleary has never shown vision in his career.

Cleary came in and made the #7 Jersey his own after 1 game as an 18 year old. 2 years after that he has earned the NSW#7 jersey.

Cleary is obviously doing what the coach wants him to do. Or else he would have been dropped or moved from the halves like one of his 7 or 8 halves partners in the 2 years he has been playing.

I guarantee if Luai was a permanent squad member his vision would appear to be gone also when he was forced go play within the limits we clearly set on Cleary and Maloney. Or else he would just be the next of many halves axed by Hook.

In 2 and a half seasons we have had:
Jamie Soward
Peter Wallace
Te Maire Martin
Bryce Cartwright
Tyrone May
Tyronr Peachey
Nathan Cleary
Matt Moylan
Jarome Luai

Cleary since his debut is the only player other than James Maloney not to be dropped or moved from the halves. He does the job his coach wants. When he returned from injury his job in the team had changed. Its not his team anymore.

He’s never shown any other than average vision for half.


I disagree re Luai but we shall see.

 

[betcats]

and what gives you the right the make such gender biased comments eh ? For all you know Jane the pain might be a bloke.

What makes your opinion better than others. Last time i looked we are all punters.

f**k off dumb mutt. I said ‘you post like you are his mother’ not once did I assume anyone’s gender.

 

[BxTom]

His career he has partnered from memory:

Fullbacks:
Moylan
Hardaker
Edwards
Whare
DWZ

Halves:
Soward
Cartwright
Te Maire Martin
Moylan
May
Maloney

Hookers:
Wallace
Rein
Katoa

In 49 games of NRL. Bit different from the combinations most halves get to build and thrive in.

Add Peachey as a halve(although that is subject to opinion)

Tom/

 

[betcats]

I am a female, who enjoys taking on a misogynist, Alice. I am not offended, nor am I intimidated by betcat. This is an opinion based forum, which means that no one is right or wrong, as we both know. Unfortunately that concept is lost on some.

Mysogynist. OMG f**k off you moron lol how pathetic.

Stick to handing out participation trophies love.

 

[jane the pain]

Mysogynist. OMG f**k off you genius lol how pathetic.

Stick to handing out participation trophies love.

No need to insult yourself here.

 

[jane the pain]

But you quoted me anyway...? Right... I look forward to the next time you tell someone they're wrong because their opinion differs from yours, and then you'll call them misogynists because you want some kind of sympathy from the other female posters, even though nothing close to misogyny was mentioned... You're a special kind of person aren't you?

It is implied. I see that your special friend needs backup. I find that sad, and amusing.

 

[betcats]

No need to insult yourself here.

Well everyone else is giving to it you so I thought I’d help you out.

Keep playing the sexism card you obviously have nothing.

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

f**k off dumb mutt. I said ‘you post like you are his mother’ not once did I assume anyone’s gender.

You're such a charmer.

 

[betcats]

You're such a charmer.

You’re such a moron. You think I’m going to be nice to you because you’re a woman?? f**k no love. You try insult me and I’ll treat you equal to the way I would a man you silly bitch.

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

Well everyone else is giving to it you so I thought I’d help you out.

Keep playing the sexism card you obviously have nothing.

It was me 'who played the sexism card' (not Jane). So come at me.

I thought everyone had moved on.


Perhaps you need this:

 

[mxlegend99]

He’s never shown any other than average vision for half.


I disagree re Luai but we shall see.

Luai carving up Warriors has you convinced he has better vision than Cleary..12 months ago Nathan did the same.


Plus this from his debut season.


He has the vision. Did so from day one like Luai did. But the longer he spends in first grade. The safer our coach has played it.

He has a lot more up his sleeves then just bombing it. He can grubber and do crossfield kicks. But for whatever reason thag shits frowned upon in our team.

Hell people said Moylan had no kicking game as he rarely kicked for us. At Sharks he has shown a very good short kicking game.

The longer any half spends under Hook. The more basic they will seem. The list goes back to his Broncos days.

Edit
f**king wrong links. Lol. Damned phone

 

[betcats]

Oh was that a top four warriors side Mx?

I’ve been watching them both since they were teens mate, it’s not just one game.

If you can’t see that Luai has better vision than Cleary then I do t know what to say to you mate.

 

[OldPanther]

Luai carving up Warriors has you convinced he has better vision than Cleary..12 months ago Nathan did the same.


Plus this from his debut season.


He has the vision. Did so from day one like Luai did. But the longer he spends in first grade. The safer our coach has played it.

He has a lot more up his sleeves then just bombing it. He can grubber and do crossfield kicks. But for whatever reason thag shits frowned upon in our team.

Hell people said Moylan had no kicking game as he rarely kicked for us. At Sharks he has shown a very good short kicking game.

The longer any half spends under Hook. The more basic they will seem. The list goes back to his Broncos days.

I agree with you but those videos are before Cleary Debuted.

 

[betcats]

It was me 'who played the sexism card' (not Jane). So come at me.

I thought everyone had moved on.


Perhaps you need this:

Do you know what misogynist means? Lol you aren’t the smartest lady I’ve ever met.

 

[unKwn]

what the f**k has just happened to this forum.

 

[mxlegend99]

I agree with you but those videos are before Cleary Debuted.

I dunno why but my phone pasted the wrong link. Clipboard wasnt updating. I think i fixed it.

That video is terrific still

 

[OldPanther]

what the f**k has just happened to this forum.

Betcats was hounded for for not saying our team is perfect in every way and it turned into a shit fight when people didn't like that treatment of him.

I dunno why but my phone pasted the wrong link. Clipboard wasnt updating. I think i fixed it.

That video is terrific still

It sure is. I always go back and watch that game every now and then.

 

[mxlegend99]

Oh was that a top four warriors side Mx?

I’ve been watching them both since they were teens mate, it’s not just one game.

If you can’t see that Luai has better vision than Cleary then I do t know what to say to you mate.

There's no such thing as a top 4 Warriors or wooden spoon Warriors side. Its a f**king lucky dip everytime they take the field.

Cleary did the exact same shit vs Warriors 12 months ago. Try assist off a grubber. Linebreak assist resulting in a Tyrone May try from a Cleary offload and a hat trick himself.

If Luai had much better vision why has Cleary at a younger age been the only mainstay in Hooks 3 years here? He has earned praise from some of the games most knowledgeable. He is the guy Gus would build a team around. He is the guy Fittler picked for NSW after only 2 games back from injury. He has had many great coaches and former halves singing his praises sbout the very thing you claim he lacks.