Patrick Kaufusi confirmed

[redandwhite4evr]

No..if we apply in Nov 19, we can recruit for full freight next season then JDB does not play. The fact is his appeal for the NRL sanction is in progress they cant cut off ties nor will they as he still may win that appeal. it is up to the Dragons but they will know by November outcome of his appeal and when court date for trial if it gets there is to make a decision on next year.

Cold comfort BLMO!- the NRL introduced this policy retrospectively without consultation with any of the stakeholders and us being able to apply for relief for 2020 in November still seems to restrict us to a one year deal.- most good players are looking for multiple year deals so we are left with the dregs unwanted by other clubs. The only fair outcome in my opinion was to set aside De Belin's contract and allow us to negotiate as if he wasn't with the club.

 

[possm]

My beef is with the club and Johnston in particular for tugging the forelock to Greenback and Beattie.We were placed in an impossible situation to find a quality player willing to sign just for the rest of this year. We know it cost us Merrin and Faitala Marriner at least (and others that we didn't even hear about cos player agents simply shut down discussions as soon as they heard it was De Belin and the little we could offer). If, as seems likely, De Belin's case drags on into next year, we have to reapply to the same worthies for permission to replace him again.

Am I the only one who feels this is monumentally unfair and should be challenged by SGI in the courts.? We should have been offered an additional (ie 31st) place on our roster with the ability to offer a player the same deal that De Belin is enjoying for the duration of his contract ie 2019 and 2020. While I acknowledge Mary's unique brand of incompetence is principally responsible for landing us in 14th position, lack of depth and uncertainty about the roster have also been contributing factors.

Knowing we had a possible serious problem with De Belin's case, we went ahead buying guys like Latimore and Allgood and some other deadwood. It would have been better to hold the NRL's feet to the fire while at the same time signing a quality replacement for De Belin - even if it meant that player is signed on a two or three year deal.

An agreement with the NRL early in January was the way to go and each circumstance thet may occur needed to be covered in that agreement.

Not withstanding all of this, we should have signed a like for like replacement for De Belin prior to June 30 and then made provisions to let go others from the roster at seasons end if the need arises. The buy another plodder just because he is cheap or because he is happy with a 5 month deal is ridiculous.

 

[muzby]

NKnowing we had a possible serious problem with De Belin's case, we went ahead buying guys like Latimore and Allgood and some other deadwood. It would have been better to hold the NRL's feet to the fire while at the same time signing a quality replacement for De Belin - even if it meant that player is signed on a two or three year deal.

Timeline:
August 16th 2018 - Latimore resigns
November 2nd 2018 - Allgood resigns
December 13th 2018 - JDB charged


How did we know there was a problem with JDB before we resigned those two?

Don’t let facts get in the way of a good Millward bashing..

 

[Old Timer]

OK we have got our much awaited signing which happens to be Patrick Kaufusi well done recruitment.
I fully expect that such a key signing will be instantly selected in 1st grade.
Where will he play and who will miss out?

 

[BLM01]

NKnowing we had a possible serious problem with De Belin's case, we went ahead buying guys like Latimore and Allgood and some other deadwood. It would have been better to hold the NRL's feet to the fire while at the same time signing a quality replacement for De Belin - even if it meant that player is signed on a two or three year deal.

An agreement with the NRL early in January was the way to go and each circumstance thet may occur needed to be covered in that agreement.

Not withstanding all of this, we should have signed a like for like replacement for De Belin prior to June 30 and then made provisions to let go others from the roster at seasons end if the need arises. The buy another plodder just because he is cheap or because he is happy with a 5 month deal is ridiculous.

According to you Possm..to get a like v like, Dragons should of sacked him immediately before he had his date in court...Mann had only just left and we had not enough money to spend to get like V like
Recruitment 101 made easy Possm..style.

 

[True_Believer]

Acoording to you Possm..to get a like v like, Dragons should of sacked him immediately before he had his date in court...Mann had only just left and we had not enough money to spend to get like V like
Recruitment 101 made easy Possm..style.

Not enough formulas in his spreadsheet...

 

[2010]

He is supposed to be going to super league next year, I doubt he will be in first grade, Another great signing by Millward

 

[muzby]

He is supposed to be going to super league next year, I doubt he will be in first grade, Another great signing by Millward

If he’s already got somewhere to be next year, his signing is not a bad outcome for either party..

Given we can’t offer anything for next year yet, and the limited amount we have to spend, I’m not sure exactly who people think we would have attracted..

Maybe Jake Turbo wants 6 months away from his brother?

 

[possm]

According to you Possm..to get a like v like, Dragons should of sacked him immediately before he had his date in court...Mann had only just left and we had not enough money to spend to get like V like
Recruitment 101 made easy Possm..style.

Not really, I would have liked our CEO to have discussions with the NRL and go over the possible options. I would have been great if verbal agreement was reached on each option and draft paperwork put into place accordingly, ready to go as required.

 

[Tripper]

Just heard Dufty told to look for another club next year. Contract means absolutely nothing.

 

[muzby]

Just heard Dufty told to look for another club next year. Contract means absolutely nothing.

That’s because we’ve signed Papenhuyzen...

Announcement due Friday..

 

[blacksafake]

That’s because we’ve signed Papenhuyzen...

Announcement due Friday..

Dreams are all we have

 

[muzby]

Dreams are all we have

Unless you’re Tripper..

 

[Carlton]

Not really, I would have liked our CEO to have discussions with the NRL and go over the possible options. I would have been great if verbal agreement was reached on each option and draft paperwork put into place accordingly, ready to go as required.

We dont know what discussions have been taking place, nor for how long. For an agreement to be reached both parties have to support it. Unfortunately, the NRL dont seem to have been receptive to anything other than their decision and St George are not in a position these days to stamp their feet.

Possm, the thing you are right about is our board and management need to be replaced and the constitution addressed to allow for more member input. My personal belief is that the NRL do not want St George at Kogarah and see the club as an easy one to move due to the geographically dispersed supporter base. If we are moved south to the Illawarra it will be to have a team solely based in NSW third largest city (Wollongong). The St George area I believe will be shared out to other clubs.

 

[possm]

We dont know what discussions have been taking place, nor for how long. For an agreement to be reached both parties have to support it. Unfortunately, the NRL dont seem to have been receptive to anything other than their decision and St George are not in a position these days to stamp their feet.

Possm, the thing you are right about is our board and management need to be replaced and the constitution addressed to allow for more member input. My personal belief is that the NRL do not want St George at Kogarah and see the club as an easy one to move due to the geographically dispersed supporter base. If we are moved south to the Illawarra it will be to have a team solely based in NSW third largest city (Wollongong). The St George area I believe will be shared out to other clubs.

You are right, I have held this view for a long time now. So, SGI should be more active and aggressively resist such a move. I say do a deal with the Scum so that we own the whole south coast - Kogarah to the southern reaches of the Illawarra.

We need an additional investor or two to buy the Shark shares and the remaining St George shares. From that point on we could really be a superclub upgrading and developing - with the help of Government the 3 Leagues Clubs and the 3 Grounds.

 

[muzby]

You are right, I have held this view for a long time now. So, SGI should be more active and aggressively resist such a move. I say do a deal with the Scum so that we own the whole south coast - Kogarah to the southern reaches of the Illawarra.

We need an additional investor or two to buy the Shark shares and the remaining St George shares. From that point on we could really be a superclub upgrading and developing - with the help of Government the 3 Leagues Clubs and the 3 Grounds.

I like your idea..

The Gordon’s could afford to buy both..

 

[Carlton]

You are right, I have held this view for a long time now. So, SGI should be more active and aggressively resist such a move. I say do a deal with the Scum so that we own the whole south coast - Kogarah to the southern reaches of the Illawarra.

We need an additional investor or two to buy the Shark shares and the remaining St George shares. From that point on we could really be a superclub upgrading and developing - with the help of Government the 3 Leagues Clubs and the 3 Grounds.

For me there is the spectre of the NRL in the background, and I think much of what we would like will not be allowed to happen.

The rumour was that the NRL pushed the club to accept Gordon's offer, the question if this is true is why?

 

[blacksafake]

For me there is the spectre of the NRL in the background, and I think much of what we would like will not be allowed to happen.

The rumour was that the NRL pushed the club to accept Gordon's offer, the question if this is true is why?

This appears to be the case.
I do recall Roy Masters, who’s normally on the mark writing an article along these lines.
There’s no doubt the NRL would love us to move south full time & the sooner the better.

 

[Gareth67]

For me there is the spectre of the NRL in the background,
The rumour was that the NRL pushed the club to accept Gordon's offer, the question if this is true is why?

I hope that is not the case Carlton but nothing would surprise me anymore . I often wonder why the Joint Venture never accepted the more financial appealing offers put to them - just does not make sense .

Would one sell their home for the lesser offer , or would an individual accept the highest offer , I know what I and any sane person would do . But not the good ‘ole boys ‘ running our Punch and Judy show , what a pack of morons they are .

 

[Carlton]

I hope that is not the case Carlton but nothing would surprise me anymore . I often wonder why the Joint Venture never accepted the more financial appealing offers put to them - just does not make sense .

Would one sell their home for the lesser offer , or would an individual accept the highest offer , I know what I and any sane person would do . But not the good ‘ole boys ‘ running our Punch and Judy show , what a pack of morons they are .

I think the NRL are quite happy to have the "old boys" ruining the show.

And I think the "old boys" know they are safe until they retire if they tow the line with the NRL.