Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Great point vfl had a local competition here well before rugby league was invented in Sydney

Rugby league was "invented" in Huddersfield, England in 1895.

 

[Perth Red]

Last year was $20m I think

there's no way of knowing since 2019. It is now lumped into the 'licensing' line along with media, betting and merch sale revenue.

 

[Perth Red]

It’s not just the nrl (last report was 21 million pa)

the clubs themselves also receive money directly operating their own websites

and nobody knows how much cash the afl receives and how much is contra for digital revenue

the only report so far said the afl tv deal is 500 million pa whilst the nrl currently receives 430 milllon so it’s not hard to see league getting more

wrong. NRL operates all club websites.
wrong. last known amount was $24mill in 2019.
wrong. AFL deal is $643 mill to NRL's $402mill. AFL's Telstra component is unknown as is what that component is made up of.

maybe three wrongs make a right? lol

 

[The Penguin #6.]

Even having St. Helens playing the tournament is something they can only dream of after their foray into China was a disaster

It wasn`t a disaster for the Chinese apparently, from what I heard the stalls selling cheap Aussie seafood were very popular, in fact far more popular than what was happening on the field.

 

[RL The greatest game]

Even having St. Helens playing the tournament is something they can only dream of after their foray into China was a disaster

Seeing as there isn't a single professional or semi professional fumbleball club outside of Australia there wouldn't be anyone to invite, and its light years away from having such a club if ever such is its limited appeal. Lets also not forget that fumbleball has to pay a TV company to show games in the UK.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

If V'landys gets a club up and running in Perth then he'll have the game in its bestever position. He gave us a traditional BRL club which is great for rugby league in Brisbane. The Dolphins have f**ked it up by using shit colours and not basing themselves out of Lang Park, so I'll criticise them and not V'landys.

V'landys did f**k up the broadcast deal. It has set us back 10 or 15 years.

I hope he doesn't go through with bringing back three grades of football on game day because it will kill the state competitions, which would be a massive setback. The Queensland Cup generates revenue though gate receipts, sponsorship and a subscription streaming service. It may not be much, but it's more than we'll get from a reserve grade and colts competition that no one watches.

 

[Perth Red]

Dolphins are yet to be proven and arguably were chosen as the path of least resistance from news ltd rather what was best for brisbane. Hopefully they can overcome that and be succesful as brisbane 2 so we do t end up needing brisbane3 down the track.

perth, we’ll IF it happens let’s see if they go with the best for Perth or once again make a dud call and transplant the fifo Bears.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Dolphins are yet to be proven and arguably were chosen as the path of least resistance from news ltd rather what was best for brisbane. Hopefully they can overcome that and be succesful as brisbane 2 so we do t end up needing brisbane3 down the track.

perth, we’ll IF it happens let’s see if they go with the best for Perth or once again make a dud call and transplant the fifo Bears.

If V'landys goes with the Bears then I'll probably give up on the game for good and make the NBL my main sporting interest. Brisbane Live will be finalised within a few years and provide the Bullets with the best basketball venue in the country. It'll be centrally located on Roma Street and built above a train station. It'll have a capacity of about 17k to 18k, putting it right up there with the Sydney Super Dome. An exciting time for basketball fans in Brisbane and something for the NRL to worry about, as the game is strongest on the southside where there is no NRL team and a growing African community. We now have a rich businessmen investing in the Bullets due to Brisbane being an Olympic city. He's helped the Bullets assemble the best team since it won multiple championships about 15 years ago. We've also got the Lions pulling 40k members. They are also based on the southside. NRL has dropped the ball in southern Brisbane.

Dolphins were the least threatening option to the Broncos, but they're also the richest and most stable BRL club. Of all the BRL clubs still alive, the Redcliffe Dolphins are the most deserving of a spot in the NRL. The only other BRL club worthy of a spot is Easts Tigers, but they're not ready yet. I'd give Easts at least 10 to 15 years to get their development finished before considering them for the NRL. Ipswich Jets will never be fit for the NRL. Tigers has to be the third team to counter the threat posed by other codes.

No one wants to talk about it, but rationalisation of Sydney is a necessity if we want the game to grow. The figures from the annual reports prove there's not enough corpirate investment and RL fans in Sydney to prop up nine clubs. There's not enough talent to expand into Adelaide, New Zealand, Perth and potentially SE Asia with nine Sydney clubs hogging valuable licences. If V'landys continues to increase the annual grant to prop up deadweight clubs from Sydney then the game will eventually become a niche sport like rugby union. No one in Adelaide and Perth is interested in watching a game that only cares about people from Sydney. Eventually that apathy will catch on in Brisbane and Melbourne, as it's embarrassing being the only major sport with no representation in 40% of Australia's metropolitan area.

 

[The Penguin #6.]

If V'landys goes with the Bears then I'll probably give up on the game for good and make the NBL my main sporting interest. Brisbane Live will be finalised within a few years and provide the Bullets with the best basketball venue in the country. It'll be centrally located on Roma Street and built above a train station. It'll have a capacity of about 17k to 18k, putting it right up there with the Sydney Super Dome. An exciting time for basketball fans in Brisbane and something for the NRL to worry about, as the game is strongest on the southside where there is no NRL team and a growing African community. We now have a rich businessmen investing in the Bullets due to Brisbane being an Olympic city. He's helped the Bullets assemble the best team since it won multiple championships about 15 years ago. We've also got the Lions pulling 40k members. They are also based on the southside. NRL has dropped the ball in southern Brisbane.

Dolphins were the least threatening option to the Broncos, but they're also the richest and most stable BRL club. Of all the BRL clubs still alive, the Redcliffe Dolphins are the most deserving of a spot in the NRL. The only other BRL club worthy of a spot is Easts Tigers, but they're not ready yet. I'd give Easts at least 10 to 15 years to get their development finished before considering them for the NRL. Ipswich Jets will never be fit for the NRL. Tigers has to be the third team to counter the threat posed by other codes.

No one wants to talk about it, but rationalisation of Sydney is a necessity if we want the game to grow. The figures from the annual reports prove there's not enough corpirate investment and RL fans in Sydney to prop up nine clubs. There's not enough talent to expand into Adelaide, New Zealand, Perth and potentially SE Asia with nine Sydney clubs hogging valuable licences. If V'landys continues to increase the annual grant to prop up deadweight clubs from Sydney then the game will eventually become a niche sport like rugby union. No one in Adelaide and Perth is interested in watching a game that only cares about people from Sydney. Eventually that apathy will catch on in Brisbane and Melbourne, as it's embarrassing being the only major sport with no representation in 40% of Australia's metropolitan area.

Aah..basketball, bring in the tackle ( clears throat...like League ) and I might actually watch a game. Otherwise not much fun just watching tit-for-tat scoring.

 

[The Penguin #6.]

fumbleball has to pay a TV company to show games in the UK.

Do you know what the cash/contra split is in that deal.

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

SE Asia
lol x1000

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

SE Asia
lol x1000

If the game wants to grow its revenue stream to keep our game ahead of rugby union and AwFuL then it will need to think beyond Australia and New Zealand. PNG is too poor to field a team in the NRL. That leaves southeast Asia as the only market within our region that can field a team in the NRL.

Southeast Asia has a massive population and is experiencing rapid economic growth. We would be crazy to not expand into this region when we only have 26 million people in Australia -- plus another 6 million in New Zealand --to draw money from. We don't even draw money from all markets in Australia and New Zealand due to our game's obsession with basing everything around Sydney.

Is there any reason you think our game cannot expand into southeast Asia?

 

[bad boy bubby]

I'll answer that....

 

[MugaB]

SE Asia
lol x1000

FMD

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

If the game wants to grow its revenue stream to keep our game ahead of rugby union and AwFuL then it will need to think beyond Australia and New Zealand. PNG is too poor to field a team in the NRL. That leaves southeast Asia as the only market within our region that can field a team in the NRL.

Southeast Asia has a massive population and is experiencing rapid economic growth. We would be crazy to not expand into this region when we only have 26 million people in Australia -- plus another 6 million in New Zealand --to draw money from. We don't even draw money from all markets in Australia and New Zealand due to our game's obsession with basing everything around Sydney.

Is there any reason you think our game cannot expand into southeast Asia?

Heaps .
firstly ..sports that have been around in this country for over a century ….AFLOL &RL make little traction in non heartland states .
even with hundreds of millions of dollars spent on them .
& that’s people who know the sports ..or know of them .
so why would Asians be interested in RL
they have had no exposure .
Not grown up with it &have their own popular sports they follow .
Asians are mostly small in stature compared toWesterners so trying to get a team of players big & physical enough to play would be near impossible .
There is zero chance of getting more than a few curious people interested .
your talk of SE Asia is the same as the AFL nut jobs spruiking how big their game is internationally & how popular it will become .

hence why your post is laughed At .

 

[RL The greatest game]

Do you know what the cash/contra split is in that deal.

No, but having to pay for your game to be televised tells you all you need to know about how popular fumbleball is outside of the southern states

 

[siv]

Ha! It will never surpass Melbourne. The total crowd for the four main days here usually over 300k. Often 400k. As is often discussed here Sydney is just not into sports and events like Melbourne.

The best horses are here because of the history and prestige of the southern hemisphere’s greatest race. You can’t buy that.

The price money from the Everest comes from the entry fee anyway, it is not like NSW racing is generating any great revenue from. NSW is miles behind. Thinking they will ever overtake Melbourne is akin to thinking that the AFL will ever gain any traction in Western Sydney. Or that Perth will ever get an NRL team.

And the annual public holiday

 

[siv]

Back in '97, there were 22 teams. Ten with Super League, twelve with the ARL. Could the game expand to 22 teams one day?

18th- Perth
19th- NZ 2
20th- Brisbane 3
21st- Adelaide
22nd- PNG or Central Coast

All of that expansion can happen, especially if the NRL maxmises future broadcast deals. At the moment, it's not maximising broadcast revenue.

I think the game is treading very carefully forward

The last thing it needs is another SL style war

 

[siv]

I don't think the game was set up for it, WA was in a hole and the game couldn't cover it. Certainly not with News Limited in charge.

It is why I call pretty much 96 up until the Commission being formed as wasted years.

That time there really not only stunted growth but sent the game backwards,
The fact the game can not only drop $120m on the blackhole that is NRLW and still aim for a profit is good steps towards filling in that void

Agreed the SL War never really ended until News Ltd left the NRL

Funding was held back, Broncos has a monopoly on SEQ

Compare today to 1995

4 teams merged to 2
Dolphins have replaced the Crushers
Storm replaced Western Reds

And Bears are on the verge of return

 

[Canard]

Heaps .
firstly ..sports that have been around in this country for over a century ….AFLOL &RL make little traction in non heartland states .
even with hundreds of millions of dollars spent on them .
& that’s people who know the sports ..or know of them .
so why would Asians be interested in RL
they have had no exposure .
Not grown up with it &have their own popular sports they follow .
Asians are mostly small in stature compared toWesterners so trying to get a team of players big & physical enough to play would be near impossible .
There is zero chance of getting more than a few curious people interested .
your talk of SE Asia is the same as the AFL nut jobs spruiking how big their game is internationally & how popular it will become .

hence why your post is laughed At .

But don't you know any population centre = $$$ in the LU world.