Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

[Perth Red]

Lol every day
the same 2 talking down any positives that are posted .
usually without a clue about anything .

a gym & a cafe .
that’s nearly as good as a Singapore team .

Reel 'em in, we got ourselves a live one

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

It’s sad when an AFL fan on here ( Wookie) talks up Rl far more than the closet pair of AFL fans on here .
At least he doesn’t pretend to like RL

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

Reel 'em in, we got ourselves a live one

So shown up as clueless once again & now you’re going for the I was fishing angle.
so many lols .
your history of hate for RL is well known .

 

[Wb1234]

It’s sad when an AFL fan on here ( Wookie) talks up Rl far more than the closet pair of AFL fans on here .
At least he doesn’t pretend to like RL

Yep I was thinking exactly that

 

[The_Wookie]

Not to be a debbie downer but.......

Way too late.

- TV Ratings and streaming are going gangbusters
FTA is down, streaming is up. Is there any net gain?

I didnt just say anything about FTA specifically. I did say that TV ratings and streaming are going gangbusters. They have never been this high.

- Crowds have improved
not really, take out the magic weekend fudge and we havent reached our purple patch of 2010-2014 since.

Improving doesnt mean theyve broken records, it means they are getting better. And they are. They may have been higher before. They are now at their highest point in 8 years. Thats getting better.

- Memberships are ok
Were going great until the NRL handed the responsibility back to the clubs. Now its showing the real haves and have nots in terms of active fanbases and slowed to a trickle for most clubs

Still going ok. We know at least 5 clubs set records this year. Another 2 almost certainly did. Some are affected by form issues. However with 3 clubs not reporting figures - including Penrith! - its highly likely that this year would have been a membership record if the NRL reported such things.

- Revenue is up as a whole
yep, as it should be.

Thats it, thats all you needed to say

Shame the revenue gap with our main competitor is widening massively though in next few years

While true it doesnt change the fact that revenue has grown in a big way, but downers gotta down

- Clubs are profitable
Largely due to NRL handouts, at the potential cost of grassroots funding

they arent handouts. clubs are entitled to funds that are made off their efforts. And I think it was well established that grassroots funding was increased last year. It is possible to do both.

- The league has actually done an expansion team. Actually done it.
Yeh we got one at long last!

yes you did.

Shame it didn't bring in any money but hey ho

downers gotta down. I mean it bought in an extra hundred million or so - which covers the leagues dolphins costs - so technically not true either.

- the game appears to be growing stronger in the pacific region, particularly Tonga, and almost certainly in Samoa.
Is it? Not seen any participation rate numbers to suggest it is or isnt. Western Sydney isnt a PI

Given theres no official numbers for much participation data, all we have to go on is anecdotal evidence. And that suggests it is.

- wouldnt be surprised to see some growth in Wheelchair rugby after this World Cup either, it was really well received
you'd hope so, it was brilliant and I really hope the ARLC look to support it better here
- more exposure in NZ than ever.
yep, only good part of the new tv deal
- the Storm are growing every year in Melbourne, and they are doing some nifty things in Victorian schools and with the VRL
yep, crowds are down a bit but participation is improving, Storm are working much closer with NRLVic now and their memberships are going gangbusters

crowds arent down. they are at a record high.

The games spent nearly $4BILLION since becoming independent. Has the ROI been that good? Can you honestly say the game is so much better than in 2013?

Yes. And I can say it as someone who has been observing it from the AFL side for decades. The fact that you cant says...well downers gotta down

 

[Wb1234]

Wow

 

[Storm80]

Actually he is a very well spoken man, but most if the time he is dribbling, he should stick to carting up hit ups properly, instead of mooching on the sidelines after repeated head knocks, which seems like this might one if the first arsebandits to sue the league, for the lack of concussion protocols, when he started...
But yeah lets praise him for being articulate

Where to begin with this horse shit Mug man.

You really are a knuckle dragging moron

 

[The_Wookie]

I like @The_Wookie, but I think he got a lot wrong in his post.

Ratings on FTA are dropping at an alarming rate and or broadcast righta deal is the worst we've signed in over decade.

Ratings drops on FTA are being more than made up in ACTUAL numbers on STV and streaming.

Your broadcast rights deal is still the most money your league has ever seen.

Memberships are stagnant and so too are attendances.

Neither of those things is true.

Penrith is not getting a new stadium.

The plan to build a stadium has not been cancelled.

Clubs being well funded by the ARLC isn't good for the game, as the money is coming at the expense of junior RL and giving AwFuL a free ride to make further inroads in Brisbane and Sydney.

Is it really though

Cronulla and Manly will never be anything but small teams with small fanbases.

Every league has small clubs.

V'landys' decision to reduce funding of junior RL just so he can keep these parasites afloat is a waste of money. Roosters and Dragons could be so much bigger if they weren't competing with these small clubs.

Did he actually reduce funding to junior rugby league?

 

[The_Wookie]

It’s sad when an AFL fan on here ( Wookie) talks up Rl far more than the closet pair of AFL fans on here .
At least he doesn’t pretend to like RL

A strong rugby league means the AFL has to innovate and improve in response. A weak NRL makes them complacent.

 

[Storm80]

Ok.... did you go to the world cup, or watch it from your comfy couch in bumfk logan...

Settle down PVL alt

 

[The_Wookie]

Unlike afl nrl clubs are dead set against expansion

NRL clubs are against anything that might affect their own interest. Its their right, their problem is they only see their own piece of the puzzle

The Commissions job is to grow the game, and the pie for everyone, and not cater to specific club interests.

the clubs paid for an independent report after vlandys wanted to expand in the hope it would kill expansion once and for all

the qrl were against the dolphins being admitted. Just imagine that. A state body dedicated to promoting rugby league in qld was opposed to another nrl club in their area (because the dolphins were a qrl club)

The QRL is against anything that would give the NRL or ARLC more influence in Queensland

 

[Storm80]

A strong rugby league means the AFL has to innovate and improve in response. A weak NRL makes them complacent.

Not at all. I’d say NRL been pretty weak since it’s inception. Nothings changed with PVL running things.

AFL saw NRL was weak during COVID and negotiated the greatest tv rights deal in Australian history giving them $500m more than NRL in 2025-27.

If that’s the AFL being complacent when NRL is “weak”, I’d f**king hate to see what they could do to “innovate” and “improve” in response to NRL becoming strong

 

[Wb1234]

NRL clubs are against anything that might affect their own interest. Its their right, their problem is they only see their own piece of the puzzle

The Commissions job is to grow the game, and the pie for everyone, and not cater to specific club interests.



The QRL is against anything that would give the NRL or ARLC more influence in Queensland

The nrl commission is weak

the way it was founded clubs and state bodies basically control it

they can’t really do what’s absolutely best for the game

an example was when it came to picking the new brisbane club

the best bid was easts tigers but news ltd owned broncos would never allow that

clubs want way too much money than they are entitled too to make up for poor management. Most club ceos aren’t fit for the job

other than our current leadership you can only single out gallop for not being incompetent or just a yes man who do nothing much (Greenberg)

dave smith wanted to copy the afl variable funding model and the idea didn’t see the light of day

the thing about afl is they back their expansion clubs to the hilt if they have too. They don’t die wondering

the titans, storm and warriors receive little help at all from the arlc.

rugby league is a great sport held back by selfishness and insularity

 

[Canard]

Do people consider Man U getting the majority of there revenue via TV rights as a "handout"?

Also, I've never had any affinity for the Dolphins, but the abject hatred and negativity that LU has for them combined with the barrage of negative press the Murdoch media gives them, there quickly becoming my second team.

 

[Canard]

The nrl commission is weak

the way it was founded clubs and state bodies basically control it

they can’t really do what’s absolutely best for the game

an example was when it came to picking the new brisbane club

the best bid was easts tigers but news ltd owned broncos would never allow that

clubs want way too much money than they are entitled too to make up for poor management. Most club ceos aren’t fit for the job

other than our current leadership you can only single out gallop for not being incompetent or just a yes man who do nothing much (Greenberg)

dave smith wanted to copy the afl variable funding model and the idea didn’t see the light of day

the thing about afl is they back their expansion clubs to the hilt if they have too. They don’t die wondering

the titans, storm and warriors receive little help at all from the arlc.

rugby league is a great sport held back by selfishness and insularity

On what basis where Brisbane Easts the "best bid"?

 

[The_Wookie]

The nrl commission is weak

The NRL commission is not ideal, its not the same as weak. Vlandys could not exist if this was the case.

My interest in any case is in a strong NRL to counter a strong AFL.

the way it was founded clubs and state bodies basically control it

Yes.

they can’t really do what’s absolutely best for the game

an example was when it came to picking the new brisbane club

the best bid was easts tigers but news ltd owned broncos would never allow that

Thats incredibly arguable.

clubs want way too much money than they are entitled too to make up for poor management. Most club ceos aren’t fit for the job

no clubs = no money.

other than our current leadership you can only single out gallop for not being incompetent or just a yes man who do nothing much (Greenberg)

I liked Greenberg and I thought he was unfairly dealt with. I said so at the time.

dave smith wanted to copy the afl variable funding model and the idea didn’t see the light of day

Hell if the richer AFL clubs got their way, the AFL variable funding model would be dead in the water too.

the thing about afl is they back their expansion clubs to the hilt if they have too. They don’t die wondering

the titans, storm and warriors receive little help at all from the arlc.

The Titans were literally owned by the NRL for a number of years to keep them afloat - as was Newcastle. The NRL had to directly fund the Storm for a number of years after News left. Ive no idea about the warriors.

But these are the perils of privately owned club operations.

rugby league is a great sport held back by selfishness and insularity

Well yes.

 

[Iamback]

Wookie owns PR...

So of course the Alt defends him

 

[The Penguin #6.]

A strong rugby league means the AFL has to innovate and improve in response. A weak NRL makes them complacent.

Geez, now you`re starting to sound like V`landy`s.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Lol every day
the same 2 talking down any positives that are posted .
usually without a clue about anything .

a gym & a cafe .
that’s nearly as good as a Singapore team .

Like usual you don't offer anything of substance and just hurl insults. It's what you do because you don't have an argument against what's being said and choose to live in a fantasy world.

 

[The_Wookie]

Geez, now you`re starting to sound like V`landy`s.

It goes both ways.

Take NRLW - its a response to AFLW which in itself was a response to the WBBL