Players who are nigh on impossible to hate (you guys always find a a way)

[Cliffhanger]

What has any of this to do with your argument that Bedurus is better than "one season" Priddis?

It was an argument against one of your points.

I think Priddis was a good hooker, but for mine he just had one standout season, the rest of the time he was just good without being spectacular, while coming up with occasional instrumental plays for his side.

Just my opinion.

 

[ANTiLAG]

The bolded is about as wrong as you can be about anything.

I don't recommend debating this one Pete. His arguments about causation stem from after the event and his comprehension levels are at a six year old level.

Case in point:

"Bedsy was not selected due to his club combination with Joey because;
he played so many games from 2004-08 without Joey
and Priddis was the incumbent in 2002 when Joey was selected to replace Kimmorley."

 

[Cliffhanger]

You never should have had allowed yourself to be reeled into a debate with a Knights' fan concerning Buderus. Trying to convince a Knights' fan Buderus didn't deserve one of his rep jumpers is like trying to convince a theologian God doesn't exist. Would you try to convert St Aquinas or Augustine to atheists?

 

[ANTiLAG]

It was an argument against one of your points.

I think Priddis was a good hooker, but for mine he just had one standout season, the rest of the time he was just good without being spectacular, while coming up with occasional instrumental plays for his side.

Just my opinion.

I think Priddis was very underrated and had he been the Newcastle hooker playing with Joey, would have had an even more illustrious career than Bedsy.

 

[jonno_knights]

You have the reading age of a child. Read my post again. Slowly this time. If you still struggle to see the elucidated point, and you still think I said what you have written here, go ask your parents for help. If they are as dumb as you. Then ask your school teacher.

I still dont see your point? you're saying Buderus only got to play in so many rep games without Johns due to the club combination he had in 2001/2002. According to you, Priddis should have been picked, especially after his 2003 season. But could not displace Buderus, who didnt have a combination with Johns in that series.


No arguing with someone who cannot understand that Bedurus got the opportunity to play all those rep games without Joey was due to his 2002 "club combination" selection with Joey, displacing Priddis, and making Bedsy the new incumbent is a bigger mistake on my part.

If combinations are what got Buderus to his Blue jersey in 2002, how come these same rules of combinations didnt play a part when Gower was NSW halfback in Game I 2004, after Priddis great season?

Johns destroyed Parra that day. One of the best displays I HAVE EVER SEEN. And I rate it higher than 2005 game 2.

Watch closer, for Johns to destroy the opposition he would have had to set up tries in the first half. Being a link man was the closest he came. Peden and Kennedy scored through strength. Simpsons try was down to a great line, and great ball from Rudder, and Johns biggest part was a good ball putting BK outside his man for Peden's second. He did have a kick charged down, regathered by BK's great effort to beat Eels players to the ball though...He was good, but he has had much more dominant games, just watch some of his games in the first 5 rounds of 2006, and the majority of 2001/2002. 34 points in one game against canberra in 2001 was pretty dominant, likewise his hatrick against the warriors in the same year. How about the game where he did his neck? leading the knights to a 60-0 lead after 60 minutes, before he went off.

So Joey was the CC, man of the match for the grand final and then displaces Kimmorley in the Origin team? That is my point kiddo. Everything else you say here is a tangent.

Buderus was playing for Australia before Johns won the CC....

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

Dont remember the game that well, iv only seen it once and that was at the game and wont watch it again, but I thought Kennedy was the one who tore us up in 01.

 

[Cliffhanger]

I think Priddis was very underrated and had he been the Newcastle hooker playing with Joey, would have had an even more illustrious career than Bedsy.

I'm gonna be honest here (because I'm awesome like that) but there's a big chance I don't rate Priddis that highly because of my bitterness towards him for the 2003 grand final. That said in 2003 I was a little bitter towards Bedsy because I thought Wing had earned a start at hooker for NSW but was converted due to Bedsy's greatness.

 

[ANTiLAG]

You never should have had allowed yourself to be reeled into a debate with a Knights' fan concerning Buderus. Trying to convince a Knights' fan Buderus didn't deserve one of his rep jumpers is like trying to convince a theologian God doesn't exist. Would you try to convert St Aquinas or Augustine to atheists?

Yes, I would throw a flying spaghetti monster at them. But I would end up in debating Natural Law vis a vis positivism with regards to professional ethics with them if I had to debate them

 

[Cliffhanger]

Yes, I would throw a flying spaghetti monster at them. But I would end up in debating Natural Law vis a vis positivism with regards to professional ethics with them if I had to debate them

You do realise that you could never prove beyond doubt that God doesn't exist though? Even if you highlight the inconsistencies in the traditional theistic ideas of God you could still not disprove the concept of a creator.

Point is you're not going to convince them.

I actually forgot what this thread was about for a second.

I find it impossible to hate Billy Slater, because no matter how many grubby things he does it doesn't take away from how damn skillful and resourceful he is.

 

[Big Pete]

Here's how you get a Knights fan to disown Buderus.

Tell them Joey actually played in a good team.

 

[Cliffhanger]

Does anyone truly hate Darren Lockyer?

Any New South Wales player is automatically ruled out as Queenslanders would rather admit they enjoy a quiet perusal of Mein Kampf by the fireplace than that they like a Blue.

Having said that, my hero as a kid, Rod Wishart, seemed to be pretty well liked. I've never heard anyone say they hated him (I'm sure I'm about to be proven wrong). Guess the Steelers were so shit you couldn't really hate our players.

I f**king hate Darren Lockyer, sure he's a great player but I hate this whole "he's a great sport" and "he's a well behaved player off the field" bullshit around him, he's a merkin, who has been involved shit but it stays hidden. He's also a whiney bitch.

 

[jonno_knights]

How old are you? Seriously? Or I'll ask another way. Did you lack the chops to finish High School? Because your comprehension levels are very low. Do not argue with grown ups if you do not understand them.

Haha. Yeh I 'lacked the chops' to finish highschool

Whatever I say about my education you will shoot me down, "anyone can make things up on the Internet".

But I'll be honest. Im 20 and finished highschool in 2008. Hated English, but it was compulsory and important for me to get a good UAI. I managed an 88 for it (Adv. English). I'll admit it was largely due to memorizing pre-written essays I made before the exam and changing them to suit the question, but 1/2 the marks came from analysis you had to do in the exam on separate questions. At uni now doing engineering, but Ill admit they arn't exactly known for their english skills.

I'm comfortable with my level of education. But feel free to have more pot shots at me.

 

[jonno_knights]

Here's how you get a Knights fan to disown Buderus.

Tell them Joey actually played in a good team.

Not sure where you are going with this, but Joey's team pre-Hagan was good. In 2001-2002 under Hagan it was a very good team built by Ryan in 2000. The backend of 2005 he had a horrible team. 2006 was a decent team, but nowhere near the level of the 2 premiership winning teams.

 

[ANTiLAG]

"I still dont see your point? you're saying Buderus only got to play in so many rep games without Johns due to the club combination he had in 2001/2002.According to you, Priddis should have been picked, especially after his 2003 season. But could not displace Buderus, who didnt have a combination with Johns in that series."

You have knotted my arguments together. I am saying Priddis in 2001, was part of a losing NSW team that had Kimmorley at the helm. Kimmorley is dropped, and 11 players from the 2001 grand final teams are selected. Bedurus takes Priddis's spot because of his club combination with Joey. Bedurus is now the new incumbent. Later when Joey is injured, say 2004, Bedsy is now the incumbent from a 2003 SOO winning team.

"If combinations are what got Buderus to his Blue jersey in 2002, how come these same rules of combinations didnt play a part when Gower was NSW halfback in Game I 2004, after Priddis great season?"

Hence the fierce debate. But Bedurus now had the advantage of being the incumbent rake from a winning team. Easier for Gus to be loyal when you have the winning side. Plus, I'm sure the NSW selectors hoped for Joey's return in 2005, thus Gower was only ever a stop gap replacement.

BK was tremendous in the 2001 GF. So was Joey. Joey got the Clive Churchill for very good reason. He directed your team to field position. He had a marvellous game.

Buderus was playing for Australia before Johns won the CC....

Playing? How many games? What he played the 2001 Anzac test? And then did not play for NSW State of Origin in 2001. Were Priddis or Kimmorley injured for the test? May answer the WHY.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Say what you want to say about Buderus but I'd still take Buderus circa 2006-08 over Farah or Ennis.

Luke Priddis was more than just a one season wonder and as a Broncos supporter his loss was right up there with Sailor and Tuqiri. It took years to find a suitable replacement and I can't help but feel it cost us a premiership in that time.

That's like saying you'd take Allan Langer over Peter Wallace, hardly a comparison.

 

[ANTiLAG]

Here's how you get a Knights fan to disown Buderus.

Tell them Joey actually played in a good team.

I would sig that, but I am not done with Fourex.

 

[Big Pete]

Not sure where you are going with this, but Joey's team pre-Hagan was good. In 2001-2002 under Hagan it was a very good team built by Ryan in 2000. The backend of 2005 he had a horrible team. 2006 was a decent team, but nowhere near the level of the 2 premiership winning teams.

I'm referring to a point Knights fans drag out time to time when they feel like talking up Joey.

Playing? How many games? What he played the 2001 Anzac test? And then did not play for NSW State of Origin in 2001. Were Priddis or Kimmorley injured for the test? May answer the WHY.

It was actually post Origin, after the round where the Knights rolled the Broncos.

That's like saying you'd take Allan Langer over Peter Wallace, hardly a comparison.

Hmmm, except there's more public interest in Buderus vs. Farah than Langer vs. Wallace. In fact, the latter is more like a Star Trek fan debate. The point of the statement was that Buderus has left a void that is yet to be filled.

 

[Cliffhanger]

Alex Glenn is impossible to hate, his humble, a great compeditor and does not come off as a total genius in interviews.

Adrian Morley is also impossible to hate, unless you're a prick.

 

[Cliffhanger]

Apart from the already aforementioned Hindy, Menzies, etc., I'd add:

Aku Uate, don't know if it's possible to hate him.

JT. Used to hate him deluxe, but his laugh is infectious.

Also Luke Bailey, Wes Naiqama and Jason Nightingale.

Um don't you remember his time at the Dragons? He was a douchebag on the field and off the field. He hit his girlfriend.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Not to mention the merkin tripped Minichiello.

Moz was easy to hate for opposition fans