Police harassed me: El Masri

[herbert henry1908]

What are you going to do next, roll around on the ground kicking and screaming when asked to show ur train ticket to the police?

theres a massive difference , if you are on a train the police have every right to ask anyone for there train ticket.

producing a train ticket does not infringe on anyones right to privacy. If you refuse to show a ticket you are then commiting an offence.

 

[Timmah]

...and herbert, that's also something that is well detailed and advertised before and whilst you're on a train. Exactly right.


Keeping on the El Masri path:

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21555804-1702,00.html

'No racial motivation' for El Masri questioning
April 14, 2007 01:51pm
Article from: AAP
POLICE have rejected suggestions Bulldogs National Rugby League (NRL) player Hazem El Masri and his manager were targeted for questioning because of their race.

El Masri and his manager Adam Houda say they were surrounded by nine police officers near a railway station in Sydney's south-west after they refused to show them identification, in an incident they believe was racially motivated.

Acting assistant commissioner Frank Mennilli today said the men were spoken to because they were sitting on a bench outside shops late at night and there had recently been break-ins and vandalism in the area.

Their nationality had nothing to do with it, he said.

Mr Mennilli said three people were seen sitting on a council bench near Regent's Park train station at 11.15pm (AEST) last Thursday, not in a cafe as claimed by El Masri and Mr Houda.

Mr Mennilli said the community would think police were remiss if officers did not ask the men what they were doing there at that time of night.

"We've got three male persons sitting on a bench after 11pm at night, the shops are closed, and I think the community would expect the police to go and speak to these people," Mr Mennilli said.

However, he said he could not confirm how many officers had approached the men or why backup was called for.

"I don't know exactly how many people attended and whether additional police were called to attend and for what reason."

Once El Masri had been identified, the officers left, he said.

Mr Mennilli said he had not received a complaint about the matter.

El Masri and Mr Houda earlier said they planned to lodge a complaint about the incident.

 

[Timmah]

So he knows why they were there, he knows why they questioned, he knows what happened after, but has absolutely sweet F-A idea how many officers or backup there was?

What an inspiring acting assistant commissioner we have. :sarcasm:

 

[Dutchy]

cops are douches..Hazem did nothing wrong in complaining..cops are douches

 

[Mr Saab]

cops are douches..Hazem did nothing wrong in complaining..cops are douches

I am sure you would love them when you call them to assist with say for example...if a fight developed with your neighbours and you needed assistance

 

[CharlieF]

...and herbert, that's also something that is well detailed and advertised before and whilst you're on a train. Exactly right.


Keeping on the El Masri path:

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21555804-1702,00.html

'No racial motivation' for El Masri questioning
April 14, 2007 01:51pm
Article from: AAP
POLICE have rejected suggestions Bulldogs National Rugby League (NRL) player Hazem El Masri and his manager were targeted for questioning because of their race.

El Masri and his manager Adam Houda say they were surrounded by nine police officers near a railway station in Sydney's south-west after they refused to show them identification, in an incident they believe was racially motivated.

Acting assistant commissioner Frank Mennilli today said the men were spoken to because they were sitting on a bench outside shops late at night and there had recently been break-ins and vandalism in the area.

Their nationality had nothing to do with it, he said.

Mr Mennilli said three people were seen sitting on a council bench near Regent's Park train station at 11.15pm (AEST) last Thursday, not in a cafe as claimed by El Masri and Mr Houda.

Mr Mennilli said the community would think police were remiss if officers did not ask the men what they were doing there at that time of night.

"We've got three male persons sitting on a bench after 11pm at night, the shops are closed, and I think the community would expect the police to go and speak to these people," Mr Mennilli said.

However, he said he could not confirm how many officers had approached the men or why backup was called for.

"I don't know exactly how many people attended and whether additional police were called to attend and for what reason."

Once El Masri had been identified, the officers left, he said.

Mr Mennilli said he had not received a complaint about the matter.

El Masri and Mr Houda earlier said they planned to lodge a complaint about the incident.

There is always 2 sides to every story.

No Cafe, no cappucino.

Park bench, near a railway station in a known crime zone and late at night with no obvious reason (at least to police) to be there. Not to mention there were recent robberies in the area that were under investigation.

 

[Stranger]

Talk about EL having a whinge.

3 people sitting outside a traino at 11.15pm and "there have recently been break-ins and vandalism in the area"

:lol:. El Masri is a clown. Why didn't he just show them his id so they could do their job as they were trying to do? Playing victim, yeah he belongs in the right team thats for sure.

 

[CharlieF]

I am sure you would love them when you call them to assist with say for example...if a fight developed with your neighbours and you needed assistance

They would be the first people he grovelled to for help.

 

[Dutchy]

I am sure you would love them when you call them to assist with say for example...if a fight developed with your neighbours and you needed assistance

Dont have neighbours

great f**king area right on the water

 

[herbert henry1908]

"We've got three male persons sitting on a bench after 11pm at night, the shops are closed, and I think the community would expect the police to go and speak to these people," Mr Mennilli said.

what a pathetic excuse that is.

they may have the right to go and speak to someone but just because there have been some break ins in the area gives them no right to ask for ID.

clearly after reading that article the police had no grounds to ask for ID.

 

[Timmah]

Agree with Saab, very silly generalisation. This is just one incident.

 

[Stranger]

Going by the article they would have done it weather they were Black, white, Asian, middle-eastern, aussie....

 

[Timmah]

Still baffled as to how the acting asst commissioner has the details of the incident EXCEPT the backup/police numbers story :lol:

 

[Game_Breaker]

Obviously, one side is lying

One says they were in a Cafe, the other says that shops were closed

 

[hrundi99]

Are you implying it's not discrimination? The police are identifying a random member of society as a potential criminal and then victimising him for failing to show identification.

I choose option D - Because he felt he was being victimised and discriminated against by the police.

So men of middle eastern appearance can't be asked for id now...?

:crazy:

 

[Game_Breaker]

Going by the article they would have done it weather they were Black, white, Asian, middle-eastern, aussie....

So it was racially motivated? :sarcasm:

 

[Maroubra Eel]

So men of middle eastern appearance can't be asked for id now...?

:crazy:

No because instantly you will be labelled racist.

 

[Game_Breaker]

So men of middle eastern appearance can't be asked for id now...?

:crazy:

Anyone has the right to refuse, except in certain circumstances

 

[hrundi99]

cops are douches..Hazem did nothing wrong in complaining..cops are douches

Next time some random guy kicks the sh*t out of you you'll be crying out for them you goose.

 

[CharlieF]

what a pathetic excuse that is.

they may have the right to go and speak to someone but just because there have been some break ins in the area gives them no right to ask for ID.

clearly after reading that article the police had no grounds to ask for ID.

What grounds do they need then?

They could have been drug dealers because of the time/location. All the cops would have needed was for them to see them exchange something. It was certainly not random.