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shinobi

Juniors
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That is a fair point. You must also question though, would Vete/Passi/Papalii turn into more Araiiti/Ah Mau/PoChings? I.E have the potential that we all seen in under 20s, but never kicked on. I am seeing the same thing in both Lousi brothers and in Gubb. We are stuck with them Though.

Will be interesting to see the plan for Allwood if the Matai signing eventuates; is he a centre or a winger...if as a winger we have fish, Hukatai, Fusitua and Laumape. As a centre Laumape, Hurrell, Matai and as a stretch Peyroux (even though Peyroux has been told he can look for other clubs).

Is it a matter of our coaching staff not get the players to reach their full potential or the attitudes of the players?
 

Rich102

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]lol has there ever been a player whose talent and impact completely disintegrated as soon as they signed a upgraded contract[/B]. All the news media press and then boom , nothing performance after nothing performance.

What I cant work out is why did McFadden keep picking him and not test out a Vete or a Papalii. I mean Matangi didnt exactly play a huge amount of minutes in any games.

Mateo?
 

WithTheDawn

Juniors
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Dead set wouldn't mind trading Mateo, Nielsen and Bukuya for some decent players. Not sure if I count Matai and Watmough there though. Its hard to tell with these top teams if the team is just making them looking good. You think someone like Laumape wouldn't look like one of the best players playing for Manly?

I'd be happy enough to dump some underperforming players, develop the talent we have, and pick up a couple of decent forwards from over here. Not Watmough though. Very disappointed to come here and see that his deal with the Eels isn't finalised - I only had time to skim the headlines, and was looking forward to coming back here and seeing the comments. It will be quite the redemption for Iron Lion if he pulls back from here. I'm all for the posting of rumours and inside goss by the way - its kind of more fun when you don't know how legitimate it is as well.
 

TheDMC

Bench
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I'm all for the posting of rumours and inside goss by the way - its kind of more fun when you don't know how legitimate it is as well.

Same, and until the messenger is proved full o shit, lay off him.

But if full o shit, rip him to pieces...
 

KeepingTheFaith

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It wouldn't surprise me if we were talking to them individually, but the idea of a 5 player swap just seems so unlikely.

Rumours are fun though. Something to do in the off season.
 

KeepingTheFaith

Referee
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Never did find out what that big financial news was. I feel I missed the boat.

I'm 99% sure Watmough joining the Eels will be officially announced at the conclusion of Manly's season.
 

Cold Roses

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/10473598/No-quick-fix-for-lacklustre-Warriors

No quick fix for lacklustre Warriors
CHRIS BARCLAY
Last updated 05:00 09/09/2014



REBUILDING PROCESS: Warriors coach Andrew McFadden has things to work on.

No quick fix for lacklustre Warriors Warriors

The players' hangovers will subside today, but the headaches remain for the New Zealand Warriors' management team as the post-mortem into another unsuccessful NRL campaign gets under way.

An internal review process for players and staff takes place this week and is sure to be another frustrating exercise after the club's flagship team failed to figure in the finals series for a third successive year.

A 22-6 defeat to fourth-placed Penrith on Sunday night capped a disappointing end to a campaign where the Warriors had arguably one of the most favourable draws heading into the post-season.

Following a 10-point loss to Manly in late July, four of the Warriors last six opponents were out of title contention, but by claiming only six of a possible 12 points they finished ninth on points differential behind Brisbane.

Perennially talked up as a top-eight contender, instead the Warriors' roster assembles at Mt Smart today - following the traditional end-of-season bonding session - with their unwanted reputation as under achievers enhanced.

Coach Andrew McFadden, promoted from the assistant role when Matt Elliott departed five rounds into the season, struggled to mask his disappointment as he contemplated the Warriors' 12-win, 12-loss record.

"The last month of our season has been most disappointing," he said. "We've got a decent roster but the reality is we've got some things to work on.

"We finished ninth and that's probably a fair indication of where we are at."

Winning outside of Auckland remains a debilitating flaw - four wins from 12 away games was only a one game improvement on 2013 - though McFadden thought the 46-12 loss to reigning premiers, the Sydney Roosters, at Mt Smart in round 24 caused irreparable damage.

"That probably dented our confidence a fair bit. We were well and truly outclassed that day. They're the benchmark of the competition really and that probably hurt us.

"We missed a few opportunities too. We got to sixth position at one stage and we missed a couple of opportunities."

Losing at an admittedly resurgent Newcastle before the Roosters ran amok was another significant setback while consistency was unattainable - a three-game winning sequence during the State of Origin period represented their best run of results.


McFadden, who is contracted to the end of 2017, described the first 19 games of his tenure as "a bit of a roller coaster ride" but he was confident a largely settled playing group was capable of qualifying for finals football in 12 months time.

"We're just not quite good enough at the moment but I've got a really optimistic approach to it. It was never going to be a quick fix, it was always going to take some time."

McFadden acknowledged the top job "certainly had its challenges" but he had still enjoyed the experience before outlining his goal for 2015.

"It's just as simple as raising our standards. We've got lots of talent but we have to improve all facets of our game. We have to develop our game, develop our awareness of how to play."

Melbourne Storm and New South Wales second-rower Ryan Hoffman and fringe Canberra centre Matt Allwood are the only new arrivals confirmed so far with McFadden saying there were no other recruiting targets.

"There's nothing in the short-term, though long-term we'll always be looking at improving all areas of our squad."


Meanwhile, playmaker Shaun Johnson sympathised with long-suffering supporters.

"Regardless of what happened [Elliott's demise] we felt as a group we should have really kicked on and we weren't able to do it."

- Stuff
 

vvvrulz

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Melbourne Storm and New South Wales second-rower Ryan Hoffman and fringe Canberra centre Matt Allwood are the only new arrivals confirmed so far with McFadden saying there were no other recruiting targets.

"There's nothing in the short-term, though long-term we'll always be looking at improving all areas of our squad."

But but... Matai? Watmough? ESL Superstars??
 

vvvrulz

Coach
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Interesting that our 'source' has completely contradicted both McFadden and Bell

Someone is lying
 

Rich102

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Staff member
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Interesting that our 'source' has completely contradicted both McFadden and Bell

Someone is lying

Or misinformed.;-)

Look, with rumors you make of them what you will.
If it is confirmed then the news channels probably have it first.
Remember the fun with Elliott?
 

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