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Big Pete

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Graham is a good club player but would be exposed at Origin level. The fact he's being discussed is another concern.

I have more faith in Cronk than DCE too.
 

Fieldsguy

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Graham is a good club player but would be exposed at Origin level. The fact he's being discussed is another concern.

I have more faith in Cronk than DCE too.
How would Graham be anymore "esposed" than crybaby? He is a fulltime winger, unlike the other option.

He is the leading try scorer of the comp, 2 last night, safe under the high ball and in defence, how does that make him exposed?
 

Big Pete

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Graham being leading try scorer is a testament to JT and not the other way around.

Ash is still the s**ts under the high ball
Doesn't posses any real speed
And if the ball was kicked to him or people ran at him I'd have my heart in my throat.

Boyd is having his worse season since 2007 but it could be because he's playing behind an awful side and he isn't good enough to carry them.

Mullen is mentally the worst player I've seen since Seymour.
Roberts is a reserve grader
Kidley is the drizzling s**ts
Buderus is the slowest hooker in the comp. & Hilder is flat out crap in that position.
Forward pack is littered with has beens, rookies or reserve graders.
Centres are terrible too.

Graham is living in paradise by comparison.

All Boyd has to do at Origin is collect the bread crumbs from Inglis and occasionally take a high ball and make a tackle. It'll be a god send for him.
 

Fieldsguy

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Graham being leading try scorer is a testament to JT and not the other way around..
No need to bring Thurston into it, yes he is a factor, but you could say he is a factor in any players trie in that team right? Did you see the first try that Graham scored last night?

Ash is still the s**ts under the high ball.
And Boyd doesn't?

And if the ball was kicked to him or people ran at him I'd have my heart in my throat.
You should have that feeling about Boyd as well.
Boyd is having his worse season since 2007 but it could be because he's playing behind an awful side and he isn't good enough to carry them.
No, he is playing near to his average game, it is just that people are watchign him closely now. Tell me this, if you know alot about Boyd, have you EVER seen him reaching out as he is being tackled over the line to score a try? Ever? Most of the good wingers/fullbacks can do this, he has never done it. Have you ever seen his set up a play or show any kind of individual flair in an Origin game? No, because he has NEVER done it, he has only scored from Inglis.

Boyd has been a Bennet/Media darling since his days at Brisbane and was only picked for Origin through an injury to a regular, since then he has been under the radar, well now he has moved to a lesser team, the radar is well and truly on him.

He could cost Queensland a series or game, yes he may score a try in this series, but I will bet my left nut it is not from his own doing, it will a case of catch the ball and fall over the line, and garunteed, if selected they will target him and he will let in at least one try per game.


All Boyd has to do at Origin is collect the bread crumbs from Inglis and occasionally take a high ball and make a tackle. It'll be a god send for him.
So why pick an out of form fullback to do that when you have a fit in form winger who can do the same plus more?
 

Big Pete

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You don't want to bring JT into it because you know it's true. Graham's try was nothing special, if Tate didn't do his knee three times he would have scored himself.

Boyd hasn't let Qld down in Origin. Ash has let the Northerners down for years.

Why? Boyd has been fine for years.

Reaching out to score makes you an Origin player? That's the dumbest thing I've read on here and I'm familiar with Gaba.

Because form isn't everything, Boyd has proven he can do the job & is a far better player than Graham is.

In fact, wingers these days generally suck. When McManus is considered Top 5 you know you're struggling.
 

lockyno1

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Exactly....Boyd is no world beater but Ash Graham is pretty ordinary, he is a C grade club winger!
 

Fieldsguy

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You don't want to bring JT into it because you know it's true. Graham's try was nothing special, if Tate didn't do his knee three times he would have scored himself.

Boyd hasn't let Qld down in Origin. Ash has let the Northerners down for years.

Why? Boyd has been fine for years.

Reaching out to score makes you an Origin player? That's the dumbest thing I've read on here and I'm familiar with Gaba.

Because form isn't everything, Boyd has proven he can do the job & is a far better player than Graham is.

In fact, wingers these days generally suck. When McManus is considered Top 5 you know you're struggling.
Well if he is selected, lets talk again after the game and see how good your superstar Darius went.

Just hope he does not cost QLD a game or series.
 

Shorty

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Graham being leading try scorer is a testament to JT and not the other way around.
I'd disagree there.
Ash Graham finds the line, he finds a way to score - It's probably one of the only reasons he's stuck in first grade so long.
He's not slow either.

I think that he's probably not up to rep footy anymore, but he gets a rough deal from Cows fans who look at his errors with a magnifying glass.
 

Didgi

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Graham is neither as bad as some are making out nor as good as others are. He's a solid club winger, a good finisher and has become much safer under the high ball and even in general defence. He's not our best option for a wing spot though. Probably neither is Boyd, but he's at least done the job before.

2. Tate

5. Tautau Moga :sarcasm::sarcasm:
 

Fieldsguy

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I'd disagree there.
Ash Graham finds the line, he finds a way to score - It's probably one of the only reasons he's stuck in first grade so long.
He's not slow either.

I think that he's probably not up to rep footy anymore, but he gets a rough deal from Cows fans who look at his errors with a magnifying glass.
Exactly. Some here attribute every try to Thurston. :roll:

Give the guy credit where it is due, the facts are he is leading the competition in try scoring, that proves there is more than just an ability to catch and fall with the ball as Boyd does.
 

Mr Fourex

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Boyd has been a Bennet/Media darling since his days at Brisbane and was only picked for Origin through an injury to a regular,

A regular...?? :lol:

I take it by that vague description you don't even know who Boyd replaced when he came into the side

F*ck off you NSW numpty

Go back to guessing which hooker, half, 5/8, fullback ....etc etc etc your team is going to be made up of this year.

We have faith in proven players who will / have done the job before.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...m-of-darius-boyd/story-fnca0von-1226352502257

DARIUS Boyd's form may be an issue at club level but it holds no concern for Queensland coach Mal Meninga.
 

Big Pete

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I'd disagree there.
Ash Graham finds the line, he finds a way to score - It's probably one of the only reasons he's stuck in first grade so long.
He's not slow either.

I think that he's probably not up to rep footy anymore, but he gets a rough deal from Cows fans who look at his errors with a magnifying glass.

But you wouldn't say he has pace is exceptional either?

A lot of his tries are simple catch and fall over & you need more than that. I'm not saying JT is responsible for every try, but he's definitely helped him reach the top.

I don't rate Boyd much either, but he's a better talent than Ash. Huge endorsement right there.

What gave it away Fieldsguy?
 

Fieldsguy

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A regular...?? :lol:

I take it by that vague description you don't even know who Boyd replaced when he came into the side

F*ck off you NSW numpty

Go back to guessing which hooker, half, 5/8, fullback ....etc etc etc your team is going to be made up of this year.

We have faith in proven players who will / have done the job before.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...m-of-darius-boyd/story-fnca0von-1226352502257
I am from Queensland you fool. Reading on here it is you that lives in Sydney right?

Maybe too many lattes or hand jobs in the cross have confused your thinking.

Not going to bother reading your link, I imagine it is a story with pictures in it so you can comprehend it.
 

Shorty

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But you wouldn't say he has pace is exceptional either?

A lot of his tries are simple catch and fall over & you need more than that. I'm not saying JT is responsible for every try, but he's definitely helped him reach the top.

I don't rate Boyd much either, but he's a better talent than Ash. Huge endorsement right there.

What gave it away Fieldsguy?
Ash isn't electric but neither was Dane Nielsen either.
And yes, they are, but last year we tended to struggle to score points, there were a lot of bombed tries because the wingers were down on form.
We play a very lateral sliding type of attack and sometimes Ash has to maneuver himself to get into a position to score.
Obviously, this is a winger's job, but some are better at it than others.

I think, because he's been there before that yes Boyd deserves the nod and Newcastle is a sh*tty team....but I don't think Ash would let QLD down.

It wasn't long ago that I positively hated Brent Tate playing for QLD but I'd say Tatey is one of the safest backs nowadays....players clean up their act.
 

Fieldsguy

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Of course not.......truth hurts NSWtrollguy. :lol:
Yes the truth does hurt, read my other posts you tosser, I am not a cockeroach like yourself.

Btw, you going to explain why the lovefest for Boyd? Would you sign him for Brisbane?

Thought not. :lol:
 

Big Pete

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Nielsen has played with Inglis in big games before & already knows the ropes in Origin. He's an average player but he's more reliable than Ash who always has one mistake in him.

I feel bad because Ash is that type of player you want to give a pat on the back & congratulate him on making a go of it after such a bad injury but Origin? In particular, a whole Origin season? No thanks.
 

Fieldsguy

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I feel bad because Ash is that type of player you want to give a pat on the back & congratulate him on making a go of it after such a bad injury but Origin? In particular, a whole Origin season? No thanks.
Yeah, much better to pick a cat who is afraid to run the ball up, throws multiple forward passes, is scared to put his body on the line, plays the ball slowly and often just wails arms out lazily in defence, and who crys at half time, I would much rather see that guy in my origin team. :roll:
 

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