Rationalisation of Sydney

[LeagueXIII]

He can't make a call on it yet. How hard of a concept is that to grasp?

Got the claws out buddy, I'm aware of that, what I'm saying is they should cut the crap as it creates alot of indecision. He should not talk about it until he can firmly state what is happening as it has no positive for the game.

It allows the media to run wild with all sorts of rumours and innuendo.

 

[LeagueXIII]

Geographically, Cronulla. Their area could easily be serviced by St George.

Wests need to service Campbelltown and Manly should be doing everything from the North Shore to the Central Coast.

That's exactly what I'm talking about, this sort of finger pointing.

Cronulla have a big investment which will start to come to fruition.

Cronulla is an easy target as they are a smaller club.

 

[Last Week]

Got the claws out buddy, I'm aware of that, what I'm saying is they should cut the crap as it creates alot of indecision. He should not talk about it until he can firmly state what is happening as it has no positive for the game.

It allows the media to run wild with all sorts of rumours and innuendo.

So when he's asked a question about expansion, what should he say?

 

[LeagueXIII]

Preferably inform them before the interview he won't talk about it as it creates too much rumour and innuendo.
Or a decision will be made in 12 months, which is what he did and leave it at that don't fuel it with potential scenarios which may not happen, which is what he also did. Now everyone will point the finger at Cronulla and look for a second club to relocate. It's unnecessary, destabilizes the game and is a negative from what should be a positive.

 

[Stallion]

Got the claws out buddy, I'm aware of that, what I'm saying is they should cut the crap as it creates alot of indecision. He should not talk about it until he can firmly state what is happening as it has no positive for the game.

It allows the media to run wild with all sorts of rumours and innuendo.

My take on it is more positive. I'm thinking a further two clubs will be invited into the NRL. When Greenberg speaks of clubs needing to take this change on, it may mean a club like the Broncos and perhaps Gold Coast getting used to another new club on Brisbane. (long overdue ). The Competition on general may be asked to get used to travelling to Perth? Or their may be a long overdue reclaimation of the Northern Sydney and Central Coast fanbase with a Central Coast Bears involved. So when Greenberg alludes to clubs getting used to change it may very well.be genuine positive change and not regressIve, destructive change via relocations etc which some assume. Definitely hoping it's a positive expansion agenda and not negative. We have had too.much of that stuff courtesy of superleague and poor administrative decisions allowing such to happen .

 

[flippikat]

Tigers need to make the Move full time down South/West play the odd game at Leichhardt.. Playing out of Bankwest will only give Greenberg more ammunition as the Eels and Bulldogs can also be located there..

Very good point.

I imagine if the Tigers move all (or most) of their games to Campbelltown, it'll be a distinct feeling of deja vu for their older ex-Magpies fans

Reminds me of that old quote (attributed to Mark Twain), "History doesn't repeat, but it often rhymes..."

 

[LeagueXIII]

My take on it is more positive. I'm thinking a further two clubs will be invited into the NRL. When Greenberg speaks of clubs needing to take this change on, it may mean a club like the Broncos and perhaps Gold Coast getting used to another new club on Brisbane. (long overdue ). The Competition on general may be asked to get used to travelling to Perth? Or their may be a long overdue reclaimation of the Northern Sydney and Central Coast fanbase with a Central Coast Bears involved. So when Greenberg alludes to clubs getting used to change it may very well.be genuine positive change and not regressIve, destructive change via relocations etc which some assume. Definitely hoping it's a positive expansion agenda and not negative. We have had too.much of that stuff courtesy of superleague and poor administrative decisions allowing such to happen .

Personally I think it will be two fresh clubs in Perth and Brisbane #2 (though I would love the Bears to come in).
However people will run with the take that Cronulla need relocating, and point the fingers at the Tigers and Manly.

How do we feel about the Titans becoming Brisbane #2, Perth in and the mighty Bears on the Central Coast reconnecting the last piece of the puzzle.

 

[Stallion]

Personally I think it will be two fresh clubs in Perth and Brisbane #2 (though I would love the Bears to come in).
However people will run with the take that Cronulla need relocating, and point the fingers at the Tigers and Manly.

How do we feel about the Titans becoming Brisbane #2, Perth in and the mighty Bears on the Central Coast reconnecting the last piece of the puzzle.

Brisbane is big enough for at least two clubs. Gold Coast service an extremely large and important junior area reaching throughout the NSW north Coast. So ideally; Brisbane2 , Central Coast Bears in the short-term ( very doable with infrastructure and juniors already in place) Then West Coast Pirates & either another NZ Team or (Melbourne2/Adelaide) for an ambitious expansion footprint. Working toward 20 teams is achievable. This should be done without the infighting(negative relocation talk etc) you refer to but as we know "Life was not meant to be easy "!

 

[titoelcolombiano]

You are delusional! The aggregate attendances were very big round per round in 1995. It was an extremely successfull and progressive time for the code in Australia. then superleague ruined the progress! You are clearly a delusional fool.

Agree with most of that - the mid-ninties were a great time for the game. That wasn't the argument though, you were arguing that it was bigger than it is now. That's not true. The aggregate attendance was higher in 2018 than in 1996 with four less teams in the comp.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Lol. Your first statement used as fact is so wrong it shows how ignorant you really are. The ARL had a professional competition of 20 teams in 1995& 1996! And the code when the split occured had 22 professional teams! Try again you delusional fool!

How many years did we have 20 teams for? Two and even without the SL war there were murmurs of it being unsustainable. Obviously when I refer to no comp going beyond 18 teams, I was referring to it being in a sustainable way. Anyone can go and make a 20-30-40 team comp tomorrow, how long will it last though? The evidence suggests that 18 is the upper limit and the AFL are even struggling with talent distribution and interest with the extra two teams.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

You are strange and delusional!

Because I debunk your fantasies?

 

[titoelcolombiano]

You should respect your elders........I'm 82.

We shouldn't worry about the games future and just live for the moment.........after all we won't be around to see where the game ends up

@The Great Dane
@LeagueXIII
Congrats to you two - my grandpa is 79 and he wouldn't have a clue what the internet is letalone an internet forum or a computer.

 

[LeagueXIII]

1996 was affected by the announcement of super league, infact there were 6 forfeited games to start the season.

 

[Perth Tiger]

Tigers need to make the Move full time down South/West play the odd game at Leichhardt.. Playing out of Bankwest will only give Greenberg more ammunition as the Eels and Bulldogs can also be located there..

That would be the quickest way to kill the club. You cant run a competitive team out of campbelltown or leichhardt full time and expect to compete in the NRL. A couple of games sure, but that is it.

 

[Stallion]

How many years did we have 20 teams for? Two and even without the SL war there were murmurs of it being unsustainable. Obviously when I refer to no comp going beyond 18 teams, I was referring to it being in a sustainable way. Anyone can go and make a 20-30-40 team comp tomorrow, how long will it last though? The evidence suggests that 18 is the upper limit and the AFL are even struggling with talent distribution and interest with the extra two teams.

Lol. The sustainable way! In whose eyes? The Broncos eyes in making sure their monopoly survived like they are doing now! In 1995 the competition was progressive and on its way to dominating Australian sport. Super league stopped that with its henchman the Brisbane Broncos aiding it's destructive agenda.

 

[JokerEel]

That would be the quickest way to kill the club. You cant run a competitive team out of campbelltown or leichhardt full time and expect to compete in the NRL. A couple of games sure, but that is it.

Why Not the MacArthur area is expanding... Isnt an A league team also starting down that way the Rams? Best way to get new facility ect is go in with them..

No other team in Sydney as it seems should move/relocate..

 

[mongoose]

Personally I think it will be two fresh clubs in Perth and Brisbane #2 (though I would love the Bears to come in).
However people will run with the take that Cronulla need relocating, and point the fingers at the Tigers and Manly.

How do we feel about the Titans becoming Brisbane #2, Perth in and the mighty Bears on the Central Coast reconnecting the last piece of the puzzle.

except moving the titans to brisbane and re-entering the bears isn't expanding so i doubt that will happen.

Too much time has passed for the Bears, they had their chance 10 years ago and it didn't happen. Who knows though, maybe they can come to some agreement with the NRL and be the team that relocates to brisbane or they can aim to become Melbourne 2 or Adelaide further down the track.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Lol. The sustainable way! In whose eyes? The Broncos eyes in making sure their monopoly survived like they are doing now! In 1995 the competition was progressive and on its way to dominating Australian sport. Super league stopped that with its henchman the Brisbane Broncos aiding it's destructive agenda.

In the eyes of every sporting organisation in the country, none of them have more than 18 clubs

 

[titoelcolombiano]

1996 was affected by the announcement of super league, infact there were 6 forfeited games to start the season.

Sure, but it was Stallion's claim, not mine that the game was bigger in 1996 than it is now. 1995 also had a lower aggretate too - so he is wrong.

 

[Perth Tiger]

Why Not the MacArthur area is expanding... Isnt an A league team also starting down that way the Rams? Best way to get new facility ect is go in with them..

No other team in Sydney as it seems should move/relocate..

because the club loses money on every game we play there.

No idea about the A league but there clubs operate on what half? a tenth? of revenue of an NRL club? I dont think they are comparable even if there is going to be a new club