Rationalisation of Sydney

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

And only 5000 members and a very poor playing record in the NRL.......

Yet they still draw decent crowds....

Imagine if they had had Manlys success and Manly had had their run. Titans could be the second biggest team in the comp and Manly would be in the ground

 

[The Great Dane]

Perhaps ,then again as the Raider's crowds were nothing to write home about, and membership numbers so far disappointing, they could join the Sharks as a travelling troupe.

Meh, crowds don't mean anything anymore, I really don't understand why people get so upset about them anymore (seems to be because of dick measuring with the AFL, which in of it's self is stupid). Besides that as a percentage of the population (which is the best way to measure a crowds impact anyway) we're probably outdrawing everyone except the Knights and Cowboys, so realistically they aren't that bad anyway.

And Disappointing membership numbers? Disappointing to who!?

Anyone who knew anything about the Canberra market knew that the jump in membership sales was a direct response to the good season in 2016, and considering how 2017 and 18 went how they did I'm surprised that membership sales are still as good as they are... So yeah it seems to me that the only people that would be disappointed with the Raiders membership sales are idiots who wouldn't know what to expect anyway.

All of that has to make you wonder if one season where the Raiders make the top four and a preliminary final results in as big a jump in crowds and membership sales as it did what would the result of having a few good seasons in a row result in? And imagine what making or even winning a GF would result in...

 

[Hawkins]

Perhaps ,then again as the Raider's crowds were nothing to write home about, and membership numbers so far disappointing, they could join the Sharks as a travelling troupe.

Don't take my Raiders bro, without them I'd only have the Civic Dendy as entertainment. Its cold and lonely down here.

You can give up the Sharks, there are other places to buy Cocaine in the Shire.

 

[taipan]

Don't take my Raiders bro, without them I'd only have the Civic Dendy as entertainment. Its cold and lonely down here.

You can give up the Sharks, there are other places to buy Cocaine in the Shire.

You gave us Carney .And you want to be rewarded!!!
BTW what was the stuff the two Storm players were buying in Canberra, and were sprung a couple of years back?
Nah I'll settle for the surf.All the coke is in the Eastern Suburbs or Nth Shore, where the money is.
We're all surfing ,not enough time to deck people in a bar.Hello Jack.

 

[T-Boon]

Less Sydney teams and more teams in other cities would also be good because RL seems to have a pretty good relationship with the RL media in other cities and a terrible relationship with the RL media in Sydney
3xBris
2xMelb
1xPerth
2xAuckland
1x Newc
4xSydney
1xWollongong
1xGosford
1xNQ
1xGC
1xCanberra

 

[greenBV4]

Less Sydney teams and more teams in other cities would also be good because RL seems to have a pretty good relationship with the RL media in other cities and a terrible relationship with the RL media in Sydney
3xBris
2xMelb
1xPerth
2xAuckland
1x Newc
4xSydney
1xWollongong
1xGosford
1xNQ
1xGC
1xCanberra

A truly national comp!
However I'd chuck the 3rd brisbane team in Adelaide, the 2nd auckland team Id split between wellington and christchuch and id have the CC team keep close ties to a sydney team

 

[LeagueXIII]

Less Sydney teams and more teams in other cities would also be good because RL seems to have a pretty good relationship with the RL media in other cities and a terrible relationship with the RL media in Sydney
3xBris
2xMelb
1xPerth
2xAuckland
1x Newc
4xSydney
1xWollongong
1xGosford
1xNQ
1xGC
1xCanberra

4 teams in Sydney and you kill off rugby league and just invite other sports to step in....and guess what happens then, RL's value goes down because we have less impact in Sydney, but teams elsewhere that no-one gives a rats arse about.

Corporates and TV money now goes to the AFL as they have taken advantage of rugby league's stupidity to weaken it's strongest asset....dumb....dumb....dumb

 

[T-Boon]

4 teams in Sydney and you kill off rugby league and just invite other sports to step in....and guess what happens then, RL's value goes down because we have less impact in Sydney, but teams elsewhere that no-one gives a rats arse about.

Corporates and TV money now goes to the AFL as they have taken advantage of rugby league's stupidity to weaken it's strongest asset....dumb....dumb....dumb

I believe in 4 brand new sydney teams. The old failed nine clubs getting relocated.

 

[The Great Dane]

4 teams in Sydney and you kill off rugby league and just invite other sports to step in....and guess what happens then, RL's value goes down because we have less impact in Sydney, but teams elsewhere that no-one gives a rats arse about.

Corporates and TV money now goes to the AFL as they have taken advantage of rugby league's stupidity to weaken it's strongest asset....dumb....dumb....dumb

Corporate and advertising money goes to the AFL over the NRL cause they have national exposure, you know cause they were willing to sacrifice the dead weight in Melbourne to grow their footprint nationally.

 

[LeagueXIII]

Corporate and advertising money goes to the AFL over the NRL cause they have national exposure, you know cause they were willing to sacrifice the dead weight in Melbourne to grow their footprint nationally.

Rubbish there are still 10 clubs in Melbourne including Geelong......Melbourne is obsessed with AFL unlike Sydney with RL. Sydney and Brisbane (alot of old Fitzroy supporters will tell you whilst they like the Lions they don't love them like they did Fitzroy ie. it's not the same). AFL is a massive part of life in Melbourne.
All it needs is for the continuation of this constant negativity and relocation of traditional clubs and it will just become a TV game with no passion.

 

[LeagueXIII]

Corporate and advertising money goes to the AFL over the NRL cause they have national exposure, you know cause they were willing to sacrifice the dead weight in Melbourne to grow their footprint nationally.

Again not true, rugby league was top dog in the mid 90's until the war and then over the following years the constant attacks on the games culture by the media.
Sponsors couldn't wait to get on board with rugby league back then.

 

[LeagueXIII]

I believe in 4 brand new sydney teams. The old failed nine clubs getting relocated.

Okay...whatever you want...................

 

[The Great Dane]

Rubbish there are still 10 clubs in Melbourne including Geelong......Melbourne is obsessed with AFL unlike Sydney with RL. Sydney and Brisbane (alot of old Fitzroy supporters will tell you whilst they like the Lions they don't love them like they did Fitzroy ie. it's not the same). AFL is a massive part of life in Melbourne.
All it needs is for the continuation of this constant negativity and relocation of traditional clubs and it will just become a TV game with no passion.

Again not true, rugby league was top dog in the mid 90's until the war and then over the following years the constant attacks on the games culture by the media.
Sponsors couldn't wait to get on board with rugby league back then.

You could try replying to what was actually said instead of just dismissing the point that was made and then talking around it...

 

[tri_colours]

For expansion to happen the NRL will require money not crowd numbers. The NRL a finally getting back to a position where we can afford to expand and people want to rationalize Sydney Teams... Why???? there our greatest money spinner, poor crowds or not.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

For expansion to happen the NRL will require money not crowd numbers. The NRL a finally getting back to a position where we can afford to expand and people want to rationalize Sydney Teams... Why???? there our greatest money spinner, poor crowds or not.

This is incorrect. Brisbane, Melbourne and the Warriors existence in the NRL is the greatest money spinner for the game.

The broadcasters and Telstra required some sort of presence outside of just NSW and QLD to pay the big bucks for broadcasting and sponsorship and have stated that Melbourne being in the comp was key to this.

Brisbane - biggest TV draw, biggest sponsor draw; enough said

Warriors - their presence is worth $20 million a year alone in TV revenue from Sky NZ and the pull the best away gates in the league due to their popularity with Kiwi expats in Australia.

 

[LeagueXIII]

Yet they still draw decent crowds....

Imagine if they had had Manlys success and Manly had had their run. Titans could be the second biggest team in the comp and Manly would be in the ground

But they're not.............................

 

[Stallion]

This is incorrect. Brisbane, Melbourne and the Warriors existence in the NRL is the greatest money spinner for the game.

The broadcasters and Telstra required some sort of presence outside of just NSW and QLD to pay the big bucks for broadcasting and sponsorship and have stated that Melbourne being in the comp was key to this.

Brisbane - biggest TV draw, biggest sponsor draw; enough said

Warriors - their presence is worth $20 million a year alone in TV revenue from Sky NZ and the pull the best away gates in the league due to their popularity with Kiwi expats in Australia.

Nonsense. Thought you had improved your understanding of what makes the NRL tick! The clubs you boast of would be nothing *repeat NOTHING " without the Sydney clubs in place! I'm amazed you still don't get it! The Sydney clubs are why this competition is so well known and respected. The rest followed!

 

[tri_colours]

This is incorrect. Brisbane, Melbourne and the Warriors existence in the NRL is the greatest money spinner for the game.

The broadcasters and Telstra required some sort of presence outside of just NSW and QLD to pay the big bucks for broadcasting and sponsorship and have stated that Melbourne being in the comp was key to this.

Brisbane - biggest TV draw, biggest sponsor draw; enough said

Warriors - their presence is worth $20 million a year alone in TV revenue from Sky NZ and the pull the best away gates in the league due to their popularity with Kiwi expats in Australia.

No other area in the NRL rates higher or attracts more sponsorship dollars than Sydney

The more matches we can provide the better, And in the 5 major cities is better still.

Sky might be paying us $20m a year but 9/Fox pay us $360m a year.

Any expansion is not dependant on gate takings nor the popularity of a club!

 

[T-Boon]

Nonsense. Thought you had improved your understanding of what makes the NRL tick! The clubs you boast of would be nothing *repeat NOTHING " without the Sydney clubs in place! I'm amazed you still don't get it! The Sydney clubs are why this competition is so well known and respected. The rest followed!

If we just cut a couple of them nobody will notice.

 

[Stallion]

No other area in the NRL rates higher or attracts more sponsorship dollars than Sydney

The more matches we can provide the better, And in the 5 major cities is better still.

Sky might be paying us $20m a year but 9/Fox pay us $360m a year.

Any expansion is not dependant on gate takings nor the popularity of a club!

And the popularity of a club is a multiple facet design.One's form of popularity is another's dismissive ignorance! And vice versa. For instance due to the tv era in which the league grew it's notoriety during the 70s 80s & early 90s the popularity of the established Sydney clubs is massive and widespread .Something those that only see popularity in a certain light cannot or will not understand.