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Rd 17 TLT - Eels v Terrigal Warriors Sun 6.9.2020

Poupou Escobar

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A cardboard cut out of Jack Gibson would be an improvement.


We will keep doing what we have the last 7 years and expect a different result. I suppose a season where we don’t get the spoon is very exciting!!
A season where we make the finals is exciting. A season where we finish in the top four is very exciting.

There isn't much difference between 9th and 16th. I suppose in ninth you keep your hopes up longer. Unless you're a pissweak Eels fan, in which case you refuse to hope and try and ruin it for everyone else as well.
 

Poupou Escobar

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If that’s what you really think then you’re showing them far too much respect. I’m not sure what you mean by “logically refuted” but at one point of the season we were ahead of the Storm and equal with the Roosters in premiership betting. Why would that be the case if they were “far superior”?
They were hampered by injuries. Hopefully they'll still be hampered by injuries come finals time.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Do the stats on each player in the team, the amount of premiership games they've played, the amount of origins they've played, and the amount of internationals they have played and you'll have your answer.

Yes, we can potentially compete, but at full strength the Roosters and Storm are at a different level. No-one could convince me otherwise at this stage.
At full strength in a finals match they'd beat us nine times out of ten. Hopefully if we do face them in the finals it's that one game in ten where we beat them.
 

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Then the problem is the expectation.
Do you think the roster we have should be struggling the best the last placed Bulldogs, Dragons and Sea Eagles with no Turbo and Fonua Blake?
They were hampered by injuries. Hopefully they'll still be hampered by injuries come finals time.
This was after the restart and no they weren’t for that entire time.
 
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lucablight

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At full strength in a finals match they'd beat us nine times out of ten. Hopefully if we do face them in the finals it's that one game in ten where we beat them.
Is that because they’re that much better than us or we’re not playing to our potential?
Then the problem is the expectation.
Do you think the team is playing as well as it could be as that critics are expecting too much?
 

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We need to keep for and against in check.
Yesterday we should of went to 22-0 Bar EVANS. Glad we he is gone.
We may of have a 30 point win.
At moment our for an against is 27 points better then Canberra.

They have Saints,Warriors,Sharks. Id say they win all 3 most likely. And a hugh chance theyl catch those 27 points easy enough.
That means we can only afford to lose one game. Tigers and Panthers are going to be hard. If we are to lose 2 and kept them tight losses and blew the broncos away we may get away with a top 4 finish still.
That 38-0 blow out hurt us. Had we lost by only 10 we have about 50 points differential up our sleeve. Almost as good as another win.
 

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Nah. On paper both the Storm and the Roosters are far superior. That can't be logically refuted.

Even if that is true, we have been playing sh*t for half the season. This team should be playing as well as the Panthers if coached correctly. Full of youthful enthusiasm and defensive and offensive cohesiveness and purposeful execution. Not the panic that sets in defensively when a team comes at us or the confused lost and confused attack that is so common now in our sides play.
 

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Even if that is true.
It is true.

we have been playing sh*t for half the season.
We have room for improvement but we aren’t playing shit.

This team should be playing as well as the Panthers if coached correctly. Full of youthful enthusiasm and defensive and offensive cohesiveness and purposeful execution.
Agreed. I still think the Panthers at their best are below the Storm and Roosters at their best. Our game against them will be a great test to see where we are really at.

Not the panic that sets in defensively when a team comes at us or the confused lost and confused attack that is so common now in our sides play.

Agreed. Opportunities to improve both of those areas but we need to do it quickly or we are unlikely to go deep into the finals.
 

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Even if that is true, we have been playing sh*t for half the season. This team should be playing as well as the Panthers if coached correctly. Full of youthful enthusiasm and defensive and offensive cohesiveness and purposeful execution. Not the panic that sets in defensively when a team comes at us or the confused lost and confused attack that is so common now in our sides play.

I can't understand what happened to our steel in defence from earlier in the year - earlier in the season, we would stare teams who were coming back right in the eyes, and defend our way comfortably to a win.

Arguably, our defence is still strong - but it isn't as good as it used to be.
 

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I can't understand what happened to our steel in defence from earlier in the year - earlier in the season, we would stare teams who were coming back right in the eyes, and defend our way comfortably to a win.

Arguably, our defence is still strong - but it isn't as good as it used to be.
My theory is our game plan is based on our pigs smashing themselves up every week and mostly for huge minutes. They say the best form of defence is attack and simply put we aint got much in that area from our backs. Our team started post covid super fit and super keen thanks to a change in that area which was terrific. I reckon they have been worn down. Then you have bludgers like Sivo who is reluctant to help. Its all taking its toll but what would I know.
"We just need more effort".
 

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My theory is our game plan is based on our pigs smashing themselves up every week and mostly for huge minutes. They say the best form of defence is attack and simply put we aint got much in that area from our backs. Our team started post covid super fit and super keen thanks to a change in that area which was terrific. I reckon they have been worn down. Then you have bludgers like Sivo who is reluctant to help. Its all taking its toll but what would I know.
"We just need more effort".

We (like every other team) are playing banged up. I reckon Sivo is banged up and has lost a lot of his hit-up power and speed off the mark and in attack.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Do you think the roster we have should be struggling the best the last placed Bulldogs, Dragons and Sea Eagles with no Turbo and Fonua Blake?
I don't think we should expect any result in any individual game. Luck always plays a role so anything can happen. Success needs to be judged over the course of an entire season, by which I mean numbers of wins. Number of premierships is a dumb metric because for one team it'll be one while for everyone else it will be zero.
 
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