Rd 17 TLT - Eels v Terrigal Warriors Sun 6.9.2020

[TheRam]

That's an incredibly high standard. I reckon Bellamy and Robinson are the only 2 coaches of teams that fit that bill. How do their squads compare to ours? Watching the Roosters last night - they are incredible. Full of superstars. We barely have any Origin players. They barely have anyone who hasn't played Origin.

Many of our players could easily reach Origin level and only need a really good coach to consistently bring out their abilities. That is the point many of us here keep posting about. We believe we have the players already to win this premiership and are very bullish and positive about our team of individual players. But we see the coach as now being an anchored to that final level of success. A man that can't deliver the necessary ingredients needed for every individual to play their best as a team.

But you and other posters see us as an inferior roster to the likes of the Storm and Rooster and think that the coach is doing a good enough job until the board finally let him go. Problem with that by then we may or may not have a Premiership capable team. Premiership windows can be very short in Rugby League. Ours is now and probably 1 or 2 more years after now if we are lucky and can make a couple more astute buys.

We think the team is a winning team. But the bloke in charge is a handbrake. The thing about this team is that many of our players are at a stage in their careers that need to be mentored and coached by a quality group of assistant coaches led by the head coach. I don't believe he is that man. The most consistent trait BA coached teams have is their ability to flounder win, lose or draw. Quality coaches have a great winning record when coaching quality teams and in most of their games they look impressive. Can't say that of BA's coached teams. He may have started to win, but they are hardly impressive. In fact the are totally unimpressive.

His team today had better win and win looking like a team that know what the hell they are doing out there, otherwise it is still a failure of him not being able to deliver even if we win. It is a testament as to how good these players really are considering how badly they have been playing and still coming away with victories by enlarge. The players are not the problem.

 

[Mr Parramatta]

Not much. At our best we are as good as anyone. Just need to be more consistent.

So why aren’t we?

 

[Gary Gutful]

So why aren’t we?

Inexperience. Lack of a worldbeater squad. Lack of a worldbeater coach.

 

[hineyrulz]

Lack of a coach.

Well said Gary, I have to agree.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Many of our players could easily reach Origin level and only need a really good coach to consistently bring out their abilities. That is the point many of us here keep posting about. We believe we have the players already to win this premiership and are very bullish and positive about our team of individual players. But we see the coach as now being an anchored to that final level of success. A man that can't deliver the necessary ingredients needed for every individual to play their best as a team.

But you and other posters see us as an inferior roster to the likes of the Storm and Rooster and think that the coach is doing a good enough job until the board finally let him go. Problem with that by then we may or may not have a Premiership capable team. Premiership windows can be very short in Rugby League. Ours is now and probably 1 or 2 more years after now if we are lucky and can make a couple more astute buys.

We think the team is a winning team. But the bloke in charge is a handbrake. The thing about this team is that many of our players are at a stage in their careers that need to be mentored and coached by a quality group of assistant coaches led by the head coach. I don't believe he is that man. The most consistent trait BA coached teams have is their ability to flounder win, lose or draw. Quality coaches have a great winning record when coaching quality teams and in most of their games they look impressive. Can't say that of BA's coached teams. He may have started to win, but they are hardly impressive. In fact the are totally unimpressive.

His team today had better win and win looking like a team that know what the hell they are doing out there, otherwise it is still a failure of him not being able to deliver even if we win. It is a testament as to how good these players really are considering how badly they have been playing and still coming away with victories by enlarge. The players are not the problem.

I just said that our squad isn't as good as the storm and the roosters...and our coach isn't as good as Robinson or Bellamy. Thats true.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Well said Gary, I have to agree.

He's the best option we have. Name me a proper coach that could replace him...Flanno? Ploppo? McShito?

 

[Eelogical]

Well said Gary, I have to agree.

Yo go with that line of thought, Hindy111.

 

[hineyrulz]

He's the best option we have. Name me a proper coach that could replace him...Flanno? Ploppo? McShito?

A cardboard cut out of Jack Gibson would be an improvement.


We will keep doing what we have the last 7 years and expect a different result. I suppose a season where we don’t get the spoon is very exciting!!

 

[lucablight]

I just said that our squad isn't as good as the storm and the roosters...and our coach isn't as good as Robinson or Bellamy. Thats true.

There’s no reason our roster can’t be as good as the Storm or Roosters. We have one of the best starting packs on paper, powerful backs and X-factor players in the halves. I think individually the team matches up very well. We aren’t playing well as a team though. I also think you’re giving way too much respect to the Roosters and Storm.

 

[Gary Gutful]

A cardboard cut out of Jack Gibson would be an improvement.


We will keep doing what we have the last 7 years and expect a different result. I suppose a season where we don’t get the spoon is very exciting!!

Pick a replacement. Who do you want to sign?

 

[strider]

get off the fence hiney and name names

 

[Gary Gutful]

There’s no reason our roster can’t be as good as the Storm or Roosters. We have one of the best starting packs on paper, powerful backs and X-factor players in the halves. I think individually the team matches up very well. We aren’t playing well as a team though. I also think you’re giving way too much respect to the Roosters and Storm.

Nah. On paper both the Storm and the Roosters are far superior. That can't be logically refuted.

 

[Gary Gutful]

get off the fence hiney and name names

Fencyrulz.

I bet he doesn't. Just like he never participates in the pre-season prediction thread. He'll only show his hand in hindsight.

 

[lucablight]

Nah. On paper both the Storm and the Roosters are far superior. That can't be logically refuted.

If that’s what you really think then you’re showing them far too much respect. I’m not sure what you mean by “logically refuted” but at one point of the season we were ahead of the Storm and equal with the Roosters in premiership betting. Why would that be the case if they were “far superior”?

 

[hineyrulz]

Fencyrulz.

I bet he doesn't. Just like he never participates in the pre-season prediction thread. He'll only show his hand in hindsight.

I said in 2018 I’d chase Holbrook, too bad the Titans swooped. Todd Payten has showed plenty with a patch worked Warriors squad. Cows have got their man,


The problem is who is on offer??? Fitzgibbon is holding out for the Roosters job, Green will probably get the Broncos job who does that leave us???


Demitrou has the Souths gig, Bennett is senile and Robinson and Martina would never come here. In other words we are f**ked stuck with a 3rd rate coach who doesn’t have a clue. I’m not sure who we chase to be fair but all I do know is Bea Arthur isn’t the man. He’s not even the man who knows the man that should be the man.


#baldlivesmatter

 

[Gary Gutful]

If that’s what you really think then you’re showing them far too much respect. I’m not sure what you mean by “logically refuted” but at one point of the season we were ahead of the Storm and equal with the Roosters in premiership betting. Why would that be the case if they were “far superior”?

Do the stats on each player in the team, the amount of premiership games they've played, the amount of origins they've played, and the amount of internationals they have played and you'll have your answer.

Yes, we can potentially compete, but at full strength the Roosters and Storm are at a different level. No-one could convince me otherwise at this stage.

 

[Gary Gutful]

I said in 2018 I’d chase Holbrook, too bad the Titans swooped.

A 50-50 call. Not substantially better than BA.

Todd Payten has showed plenty with a patch worked Warriors squad. Cows have got their man.

Not enough to beat BA today. I predict he'll struggle at the Cowboys. Our next coach should absolutely not be a rookie. That would be dumb in the extreme.

The problem is who is on offer???

That's been my point all along dickshit.

Fitzgibbon is holding out for the Roosters job.

Another rookie. No thanks

Green will probably get the Broncos job who does that leave us???

I think you are starting to understand my point.

Demitrou has the Souths gig

Another rookie. No thanks.

Bennett is senile and Robinson and Martina would never come here. In other words we are f**ked stuck with a 3rd rate coach who doesn’t have a clue.

If he was "3rd rate" you might have been able to come up with a good replacement.

I’m not sure who we chase to be fair but all I do know is Bea Arthur isn’t the man. He’s not even the man who knows the man that should be the man.

Completely piss weak. You bitch and moan every week but are basically admitting you don't know of a plan B. Give yourself a dozen, merkin!

#baldlivesmatter

You are the reason for that movement.

 

[hineyrulz]

A 50-50 call. Not substantially better than BA.


Not enough to beat BA today. I predict he'll struggle at the Cowboys. Our next coach should absolutely not be a rookie. That would be dumb in the extreme.


That's been my point all along dickshit.


Another rookie. No thanks


I think you are starting to understand my point.



Another rookie. No thanks.


If he was "3rd rate" you might have been able to come up with a good replacement.


Completely piss weak. You bitch and moan every week but are basically admitting you don't know of a plan B. Give yourself a dozen, merkin!


You are the reason for that movement.

Roy Masters FFS!!

 

[Gary Gutful]

Roy Masters FFS!!

We need some more face slapping.

Sad thing is, I reckon everyone will line up to slap Moses.

 

[lucablight]

Do the stats on each player in the team, the amount of premiership games they've played, the amount of origins they've played, and the amount of internationals they have played and you'll have your answer.

Yes, we can potentially compete, but at full strength the Roosters and Storm are at a different level. No-one could convince me otherwise at this stage.

I’d say the Storm and Roosters are just more professional clubs than the Eels. They rarely struggle to put away teams teams they’re meant to beat and consistently get the job done. One of the main issues the Eels have is their inability to put away teams even if they’re expected to win comfortably. There’s none of the ruthlessness or clinical efficiency that the Roosters and Storm have. However, I don’t agree it’s a roster issue. It seems to be in the DNA of the team. Until the team fixes this fans and commentators will continue to be critical.