Rd11: Eels v Manly GAME DAY THREAD @ Commbank 20/5/22

[crocodile]

I dont think we have the speed out wide to pull that off unfortunately.

Maybe Waqa if 100% fit. But who else opacic isnt quick. Simmonsonn is ok but not super quick. Penisini and Gutho both have similar gears can run all day not lightning quick.

But no one else has speed to burn like say Addo-Carr. When he was at Melbourne and munster would do the chip across field in there own 20 for Addo-Carr pretty regularly.

Simmonson is actually a noted speedster. Unfortunately, we don't use it.

 

[strider]

Simonsson is too small for wing.

I reckon he has a crack. But agree he isnt quite big enough. He has bumped some chasers off at times if he gets a one on one on a kick return. And puts his body in when he manages to time rushing in from the wing in defense, but he comes up with nothing too often too.

 

[Pazza]

I wonder how Bailey would do as a centre. Playing wing at parra really is a bash and barge thing

 

[crocodile]

supposedly, but we've seen no evidence of that

his defensive reads last night cost us at least 1 try, then again Sivo is no great defender

Turbo has a habit of making defenders look silly.

 

[Twizzle]

Lane if consistent would go close.

and it all ends right there, he just cant string 2 or 3 good games together and his hands let him down

he was good last night though

 

[Matty Bhoy]

I’m still a happy man this morning. Manly were absolutely up for that last night. No chance we’d have worked our way back into it a couple of years ago. In fact, probably get 30 put on us.

I think we really miss Waqa Blake (no laughing at the back there!). He’s got plenty of speed and takes some tough runs coming out of our end.

We haven’t hit our straps yet this season and to me that’s a good thing. We’ve come out blazing the last few seasons and fallen short. It’s now time to string a couple of good results together and push up the ladder.
Up The Eels

 

[Twizzle]

Turbo has a habit of making defenders look silly.

yeh, granted, but he ran up out of the line and made a pretty bad read I thought

 

[Happy MEel]

yeh, granted, but he ran up out of the line and made a pretty bad read I thought

He also shot out unnecessarily when Penisini had the guy covered. He doesn’t have a feel for the game.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What do we do when the opposition is always offside or has really good linespeed

Just one out stuff?

Offloading or shifting keeps them honest.

The trick is to outlast them. They’re using up more energy getting their whole defensive line up and back at speed. You just need to get to your kick and let them wear themselves out. Eventually some defenders start to lag and that’s where their line speed becomes a staggered defensive line. That’s when you use the ball. You absolutely don’t want to be passing to a dude who gets smashed as soon as he catches it.

 

[JokerEel]

He also shot out unnecessarily when Penisini had the guy covered. He doesn’t have a feel for the game.

I am certain that no one coaches our wingers on how to defend. When Manly scored off the kick in the second half, it was the last tackle and he was standing in line with Will he needed to be back a meter or 2.

 

[strider]

I am certain that no one coaches our wingers on how to defend. When Manly scored off the kick in the second half, it was the last tackle and he was standing in line with Will he needed to be back a meter or 2.

You think no one instructs our wingers to rush in? They all seem to do it alot ... i reckon if they were getting no guidance they would just be holding their ground.

I think we play a compressed middle, which means space out wide, and our wingers are encouraged to try and rush in to counter the resulting overlaps ..... BUT it isnt working so well alot of the time.

But if we spread more maybe we would leak points through the middle more?

 

[crocodile]

yeh, granted, but he ran up out of the line and made a pretty bad read I thought

It turned out that way. He saw an overlap looming and tried to snuff it out. That was dumb. He should've just let the runner go around Turbo and the inside men come across. Trouble is they don't always move across leaving our wingers 2 on one. Many tries are scored against us this way. It ended up being scored anyway so buggered if you do and stuffed if you don't.

 

[crocodile]

You think no one instructs our wingers to rush in? They all seem to do it alot ... i reckon if they were getting no guidance they would just be holding their ground.

I think we play a compressed middle, which means space out wide, and our wingers are encouraged to try and rush in to counter the resulting overlaps ..... BUT it isnt working so well alot of the time.

But if we spread more maybe we would leak points through the middle more?

Exactly, the middle defenders don't move across quick enough or don't at all. Poor Fergo used to get the blame for it all the time. He's gone now and it still goes on. A lot of times the winger has no choice.

 

[Parra]

Exactly, the middle defenders don't move across quick enough or don't at all. Poor Fergo used to get the blame for it all the time. He's gone now and it still goes on. A lot of times the winger has no choice.

Players like Turbo are good enough to read this. Either way the winger looks like he's made a mistake.

 

[Avenger]

Just a small update.

My son ended up sending Mitch Moses a message on Instagram thanking him for converting the goal that ultimately won the game.

This morning Mitch privately responded to him.

What a champion!!!

Eels forever!!!

 

[yy_cheng]

I feel that sides know that if they out muscle us they have a very good chance of winning. Hence they are getting offside and giving away alot of penalties in our 40

 

[Eelementary]

He also shot out unnecessarily when Penisini had the guy covered. He doesn’t have a feel for the game.

Or is it that he doesn't communicate with his centre (and his centre happens to be a rookie, albeit a supremely talented one)?

 

[lucablight]

Just a small update.

My son ended up sending Mitch Moses a message on Instagram thanking him for converting the goal that ultimately won the game.

This morning Mitch privately responded to him.

What a champion!!!

Eels forever!!!

My condolences for your father. I wish you and your family all the very best. Very heartwarming to hear Mitchell respond to your young fella like that.

 

[Eelementary]

I know one thing - Opacic must be in the side.

His defence is too damn good to leave out of the side.

With everyone fit, I'd go for:

1. Gutherson
2. Sivo
3. Penisini
4. Opacic
5. Blake

 

[Pazza]

At this point I find it hard to blame any individual player for issues on our edges. The team has been coached to employ this up and in style of defence for years now encompassing many different players and combinations.

It can be effective but against elite edge ball players like turbo, latrell, k Bromwich, C Walker it's just too easy for them to get around. It would be nice against these sort of players to be less aggressive and slide.