Rd22: EELS v Storms GAME DAY THREAD @ Marvel Stadium 28/7/23

[Wally21]

As far as I’m concerned, if we catch the ball off a kick, BOTH wingers should be taking hit ups that set, as well as at least one centre. That should be the first 3 plays…pretty much EVERY time rucking it out from our half! That gives our middles time to get back, take a breather, share the 3rd or 4th tackle and get ready to rip in on the next set. It simply doesn’t happen enough. Our edge and middle forwards spend far too much time trying to ruck it out and that leaves them gassed to defend. We then are f**king rubbish around the ruck.

This. How many times have we seen Sivo just stay in his wing and wait for someone else to cart the ball up.

 

[Wally21]

Just saw the highlights of our game on the Matt Johns show and watching Paulo get owned in defence on our line was embaressing

 

[yy_cheng]

I think our centres usually take plenty of runs, especially Simonsson

Mate, simonssen attitude and effort in sivo's body would be awesome

Theres a play we do where simmonson gets the ball from a scrim and he runs across field. We have 2 players on the edge.

We've done it 2 or 3 times since he scored the try from it without success... All we need is the 2 other players to run different lines as support (rather than standing out wide doing nothing) and the defense will be guessing as simonssen could pass

A commentator on the radio broke down why warriors delen scores so much, it is because they have 2 decoys that run at a defender. One on the inside shoulder, one on the outside and depending what he does they take advantage. This is in place of the 1 decoy block play.

Well , Russell's first try was a copy of that.

What the Warriors do well is they hold the ball long enough to commit the defender before passing.. I think we pass too early and the opposition slides across easily.

Except when it is sivo as he can break alot of tackles

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What the Warriors do well is they hold the ball long enough to commit the defender before passing.. I think we pass too early and the opposition slides across easily.

This is why Drown is so great. He is very strong and his run threat keeps the defence honest. That creates space for the people outside him, much like Nathan Cleary.

 

[JokerEel]

Just saw the highlights of our game on the Matt Johns show and watching Paulo get owned in defence on our line was embaressing

He got owned 3 times in the first half. It was bad

 

[the phantom menace]

This is why Drown is so great. He is very strong and his run threat keeps the defence honest. That creates space for the people outside him, much like Nathan Cleary.

Is this on the field, or also at the pub/club?

 

[The EELiminator]

*Jake Arthur shitcanned us

because we made him feel so welcome here

 

[the phantom menace]

His Dad certainly did.

 

[hindy111]

Nothing wrong losing to the Storm
Plenty wrong to be beaten the way we did with season on line.

Very dissapointing effort

 

[hineyrulz]

We also put no stock in ensuring the 9 jumper was covered. Rheed went and we got Hodgson. BA was never going to play Rein preferring Yates in the trials. As happens with young blokes Yates couldnt sustain his pre season promise and was dumped accordingly. We then have as our only 9, Hodgson, who everyone but our brains trust was predicting would end in tears. Enter Brendan Hands. Thank God. This kid rarely played 9 in the 2s. Its was generally in the 6. Its a pretty big convince to claim he was always an option. We got lucky. Absolutely kissed on the di*k. Then theres Asi. We've had no back up halfs except for Jake for a few years. We let him go " for his mental well being" while we play Asi at 1 in the 2s. You cant make this sh*t up. Dont even start the absolute incompetence re standby 1s through 5s.
The Dolphins managed to secure players without notice. Why not us.
And the the clincher, we bring back our favourite son Cayless to guide all these superstar juniors into eventual NRL players. A guy that has had more clubs than Tiger Woods and failed at everyone of them.
Sometimes I think we win and have periods of success in spite of ourselves.
Rant over.

You can’t help back luck, something something something Covid, something something something Fox commentator’s something something something Uncle Nick!!

 

[Bandwagon]

Nothing wrong losing to the Storm
Plenty wrong to be beaten the way we did with season on line.

Very dissapointing effort

Yep, our goal line defence was nonexistent. I don't believe we managed to defend one set of six inside our twenty. Our defence has been generally about average this year, but that was just poor.

On a positive note that's likely an outlier, it's not like our defence is suddenly gonna get Penrith like, but it's unlikely we will put in such a poor performance again

That's been our problem for a couple of years now, at our best we beat every side in the comp, we are easily top four, but at our worst we are spoon-worthy. The difference is far too stark, and that's not what a top four team looks like.

 

[yy_cheng]

Yep, our goal line defence was nonexistent. I don't believe we managed to defend one set of six inside our twenty. Our defence has been generally about average this year, but that was just poor.

On a positive note that's likely an outlier, it's not like our defence is suddenly gonna get Penrith like, but it's unlikely we will put in such a poor performance again

That's been our problem for a couple of years now, at our best we beat every side in the comp, we are easily top four, but at our worst we are spoon-worthy. The difference is far too stark, and that's not what a top four team looks like.

Huh, defense against cows, Warriors, Melbourne.

Tbh there were lots of matches where we came back to lost by a few points. They were just hiding how poor we are.

I don't think that's how you really want to be playing. Chasing points.

The problem is we play boring set to set but more often than not, against the good sides, we don't score and then the opposition puts 2 to 3 tries on us. We then play catchup offloading and stuff and catchup.

We are not good at scoring tries against the good sides when we're in their 20 zone. Our tries come from further out usually because of an offload

Our defense is terrible, so we can't hold the good sides out but we also can't score against them without playing catchup

So either fix the defence or just play catchup style from the outset

 

[hineyrulz]

Yep, our goal line defence was nonexistent. I don't believe we managed to defend one set of six inside our twenty. Our defence has been generally about average this year, but that was just poor.

On a positive note that's likely an outlier, it's not like our defence is suddenly gonna get Penrith like, but it's unlikely we will put in such a poor performance again

That's been our problem for a couple of years now, at our best we beat every side in the comp, we are easily top four, but at our worst we are spoon-worthy. The difference is far too stark, and that's not what a top four team looks like.

Consistency has always been a problem under Bea, if he can’t get them to do it after 10 years what makes anyone think he will ever do it?? Penrith continue to grind out wins even when they aren’t playing well. When we don’t play well we looooooose against the shit team and get smashed by the good ones.

 

[Tooooks]

Just saw the highlights of our game on the Matt Johns show and watching Paulo get owned in defence on our line was embaressing

And that‘s why looking at stats can be very misleading. 15 runs for 151 metres, 4 offloads, 28 tackles with 2 missed. Looks pretty good on paper. He was awful.

 

[hineyrulz]

And that‘s why looking at stats can be very misleading. 15 runs for 151 metres, 4 offloads, 28 tackles with 2 missed. Looks pretty good on paper. He was awful.

Stats it’s all about the stats!! As you say stats wise you’d think he played well but he was absolute garbage.

 

[Gazzamatta]

And that‘s why looking at stats can be very misleading. 15 runs for 151 metres, 4 offloads, 28 tackles with 2 missed. Looks pretty good on paper. He was awful.

Forget stats mate. Watching the17 inch Rank Arena at the local is the way to go.

 

[Pazza]

Can we please get rid of the white jerseys.

 

[Bandwagon]

Huh, defense against cows, Warriors, Melbourne.

Tbh there were lots of matches where we came back to lost by a few points. They were just hiding how poor we are.

I don't think that's how you really want to be playing. Chasing points.

The problem is we play boring set to set but more often than not, against the good sides, we don't score and then the opposition puts 2 to 3 tries on us. We then play catchup offloading and stuff and catchup.

We are not good at scoring tries against the good sides when we're in their 20 zone. Our tries come from further out usually because of an offload

Our defense is terrible, so we can't hold the good sides out but we also can't score against them without playing catchup

So either fix the defence or just play catchup style from the outset

Like I said, our worst is too far from our best. From your examples

Round one, against Melbourne, we lost 12- 16, led all game until Meaney converted a try in the 63rd Minute. We held Melbourne to zero in the first half.

Round 13 we beat the Cowboys 24 - 16, we held them to one try until Feldt scored in the 68th minute, they led from the 7th minute until we equalised in the 18th minute, else wise we were tied or led for the rest of the game.

Warriors of course smashed us from about the 20th minute on and we couldn't go with them.

We've been soundly beaten in the last few weeks for sure, but that when looked at in the context of the rest of the season just shows exactly what I said.

 

[Chipmunk]

I just listened to the TCT podcast. I’ve never heard them so disappointed. The fact that they, as self confessed glass half full supporters were so disappointed suggests that it truly was a gutless performance.
If fact, 60’s intimated that the year is done and even questioned if we get done by Drags next week. He also said that he thought the team went down thinking they would lose.

I've now just listened, for normally sycophant types, I was shocked with some of the things they finally admit that has been noticeable for a long time.

I suspect they'll lose their 'access' over it though.

 

[Parra Pride]

Mate, simonssen attitude and effort in sivo's body would be awesome

Theres a play we do where simmonson gets the ball from a scrim and he runs across field. We have 2 players on the edge.

We've done it 2 or 3 times since he scored the try from it without success... All we need is the 2 other players to run different lines as support (rather than standing out wide doing nothing) and the defense will be guessing as simonssen could pass

A commentator on the radio broke down why warriors delen scores so much, it is because they have 2 decoys that run at a defender. One on the inside shoulder, one on the outside and depending what he does they take advantage. This is in place of the 1 decoy block play.

Well , Russell's first try was a copy of that.

What the Warriors do well is they hold the ball long enough to commit the defender before passing.. I think we pass too early and the opposition slides across easily.

Except when it is sivo as he can break alot of tackles

We need to stop just throwing Fijians on the field and expecting them to be good. For every Semi we have to sit through cats like Jacob Loko, Maika Sivo and Waqa Blake.