Rd6: Parra v Roosters GAME DAY thread 20/6/20

[Joshuatheeel]

We need a quality 14. We don’t. Stone was exposed like the f**king plodder he is. Blake is a terrible defender. He was f**king awful.

I don’t think the refs got them home. They were better, simple as that.

Stone just needs time, yeah was poor but the kid has only played 10 games or so, so that crap is expected

Reckon he was massive improvement in him once he gets to 50 plus games.

don’t give up on him yet.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

I was pleased to see Stone got hooked at half time and never returned. Players don’t often get interchanged at half time unless there is an injury - Arthur must not have been happy with him.

as above post. Also the pace of the game got to him. He just tried to hard, he will be better for it.

Not knocking you but also recall similar discussion about Marata when he debuted and not being up to it.

Stone just needs time.

Peni is the bigger concern, 100 plus games and BA only leaves him on to make 9 m 10 tackles (on par with Stone).

We missed Evans.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

The Roosters went up a gear before the sin binning, we don't have that gear.......that is my point.

we were down 8 to nil, and not looking likely. Yet we got the next 2 tries and looking the better side, I reckon that was going up another gear....

the turning point was our 21 year old hooker who is expected to play 80 mins each week missing a tackle.....

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Reckon there was only a bees dick in the game, the roosters completed at 90% (us 72%), only made 4 errors (us 11) and concede 3 penalties (us 7). Yet only scored 3 tries to 2 (roosters had worse stats then those against broncos/dogs). Improve that and we win.

And it was only the Mahoney miss that really killed us ( not blaming him 80 mins in the middle for a rookie is tough). The roosters were close to perfect, they can’t play better, but we can!!

the roosters defence is the best yet we looked like breaking it several times.

it was a great effort we will be better for it.

Probably one concerning factor was only bench, Stone / Peni pretty much only made 20 m 20 tackles combined between them. They didn’t offer enough in a game like that.

 

[Noise]

as above post. Also the pace of the game got to him. He just tried to hard, he will be better for it.

Not knocking you but also recall similar discussion about Marata when he debuted and not being up to it.

Stone just needs time.

Peni is the bigger concern, 100 plus games and BA only leaves him on to make 9 m 10 tackles (on par with Stone).

We missed Evans.

Marata at least had the physical size to make it. I bagged his inability to make line breaks as an edge back rower. And guess where he almost exclusively plays now? The middle.

Stone doesn’t have the physical size nor the ball playing skills to make it. Stone is the same age as Marata (23). How long do we give him?

And yes Peni is a f**ken liability.

 

[Happy MEel]

Marata at least had the physical size to make it. I bagged his inability to make line breaks as an edge back rower. And guess where he almost exclusively plays now? The middle.

Stone doesn’t have the physical size nor the ball playing skills to make it. Stone is the same age as Marata (23). How long do we give him?

IMO Kaufusi has cemented his spot in the 17 over Peni when KE returns. Stone played well last week but doesn’t offer enough as a regular 14. Perhaps Field, Taka, Salmon or Rankin are worth a shot.

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

I'm not terribly disappointed with the loss.

It was our first game against real contenders and it slipped away after one missed tackle from a young bloke who ended up having to make nearly sixty of them.

Yes, Blake and Moses had bad games in defense. Yes, Stone was pretty crap when he came on and probably worked more against us than for us. Yes, Terepo was largely ineffective.

But despite all of that we were still in the game and still had the lead until that one missed tackle. Then the game turned a little against us and the experience of the Roosters shone through. The Roosters got a little roll and that led to Jennings having to foul, which led to the bin and that was it.

We did ok. We're contenders. Come the finals we'll be a much better team and can hopefully deal with situations like that a little better.

I'm glad we're in the position we're in - it's better than 2 years ago.

The best thing? We get another real contender next week so we can back up and see what we're really like.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Marata at least had the physical size to make it. I bagged his inability to make line breaks as an edge back rower. And guess where he almost exclusively plays now? The middle.

Stone doesn’t have the physical size nor the ball playing skills to make it. Stone is the same age as Marata (23). How long do we give him?

And yes Peni is a f**ken liability.

Injuries haven’t help him. He hasn’t been able to get a decent run in the top side. And yes he hasn’t set the world on fire but I don’t think he has looked to small either.

Not saying he will make it or not, but he needs a good run 20 or so games to see if he is up to it.

On last night, yeah he was poor but reckon he was just trying to hard. He will be better for it. It’s probably the biggest game he has played in.

 

[84 Baby]

The Roosters made four errors and completed at 90%, you don't lose completing at 90%, we capped that off by literally handing them back the ball on two of those errors. The Roosters won't play better.

There's some other shit there like Blake's D being shocking, and us getting frustrated and going a bit too sideways ( again ) but that can be fixed. We can compete.

What i liked most about that game was our turning up in defence, there's a lot of work being done there in the little efforts, and that's gonna keep us in the game no matter who we play.

The other thing i liked was that in the first half, despite having no ball, we f**king bashed the merkins, we let 'em know we were there to play.

Roosters right now are pretty clearly the bench mark, but I think we are close enough to 'em to not fear 'em come finals time, if we can just improve in those areas we were off we can beat them.

I don't think Raiders or The Storm are going to be real problems for us, sure won't be easy, but we have the defence to beat both those sides this year, and I reckon we will.

People saying Rorters went up another gear... I didn’t see it that way. They played near perfectly all game. There is no gear above that. They’ve proved they can play that level more consistently than other teams but they can’t play better than that. Whereas our defensive commitment in the first half kept us in touch and we did go up to their level in second half. But then our diff slipped and they overran us. Things to learn out of the game, which is good. Beating the Rorters in round 6 isn’t necessary, as long as we bring that intensity next week

 

[84 Baby]

Injuries haven’t help him. He hasn’t been able to get a decent run in the top side. And yes he hasn’t set the world on fire but I don’t think he has looked to small either.

Not saying he will make it or not, but he needs a good run 20 or so games to see if he is up to it.

On last night, yeah he was poor but reckon he was just trying to hard. He will be better for it. It’s probably the biggest game he has played in.

I reckon Stone will become an ok squad player but he shouldn’t be a top team regular. Reckon we’ll be looking for a bench utility for next year (assuming Mahoney re-signs).

 

[Joshuatheeel]

I reckon Stone will become an ok squad player but he shouldn’t be a top team regular. Reckon we’ll be looking for a bench utility for next year (assuming Mahoney re-signs).

don’t agree or disagree, I think my point is we judge players to early in their career. We need him to play 50 or so games before we can see where he is at.

 

[84 Baby]

don’t agree or disagree, I think my point is we judge players to early in their career. We need him to play 50 or so games before we can see where he is at.

We can’t afford him to take 50 games at the moment

 

[Bandwagon]

People saying Rorters went up another gear... I didn’t see it that way. They played near perfectly all game. There is no gear above that. They’ve proved they can play that level more consistently than other teams but they can’t play better than that. Whereas our defensive commitment in the first half kept us in touch and we did go up to their level in second half. But then our diff slipped and they overran us. Things to learn out of the game, which is good. Beating the Rorters in round 6 isn’t necessary, as long as we bring that intensity next week

If we win the games we should win, given what we have shown, we will make top four. from there it's basically start again.

I figure fifteen wins will guarantee top four, Roosters play the Storm twice, and the Raiders play each of them once from here on, given The Roosters and the Storm have already lost two, the best either can have is 18 wins, that leaves the other though on a best of 16 wins.

Obviously there's other sides that can still make it, Penrith are a real chance, their draw from here on is pretty kind. Knights have a tougher draw, they still have to play the Storm and Roosters, Manly will have to beat the Raiders today I reckon to be in the hunt, and Souths having already lost three, and with a draw to come that includes us, the Roosters, The Storm, the Raiders, The Panthers, Knights and Manly are pushing shit uphill I reckon as far as top four goes.

 

[yy_cheng]

I reckon Evans and a fit alvaro with game time would've suited us more. No stone, no peni.

I also thought, they held us down in the ruck more than we held them down. What happened to vlandys sin binning

Lastly, it was great that we could keep teddy in check. In other non parra games, he gets around players so easily

 

[Pugzley]

You got heart kid....

 

[Glenneel]

Isn't that an intentional penalty to stop a try scoring opportunity? Should've been a sin bin or a penalty try

You could say the same with Roosters when they stole ball when our player close to their line. They were penalised but wasn't that a professional foul?

 

[yy_cheng]

Haven't read the whole thread but did anyone blame or Jersey?

 

[chiefy1]

The roosters controlled the match better through ball control and last tackle options. They're on another level for now.
The Eels are up a notch and are definitely top 4 but must complete higher if we want to be in a gf. The repeat sets we endured earlier fatigued us and it showed in the last 20. It happened against Manly & Penrith.

 

[Glenneel]

Yes I don't get that one. Sin bin 100%

Doesn't happen against Storm or Roosters, just their opponents. That's why players from those teams sometimes stand offside with immunity.

 

[chiefy1]

Marata at least had the physical size to make it. I bagged his inability to make line breaks as an edge back rower. And guess where he almost exclusively plays now? The middle.

Stone doesn’t have the physical size nor the ball playing skills to make it. Stone is the same age as Marata (23). How long do we give him?

And yes Peni is a f**ken liability.

Placing blame on individuals is irrelevant at the moment. Its game management and pushed passes at the wrong time is what's going wrong. We're also going side to side too often and pushed over the sideline too frequently.