Redcliffe put their hand up

[T-Boon]

Good comeback

I hope you always have to drive 2 hours to get to a game.

 

[Sunny coast shark]

I hope you always have to drive 2 hours to get to a game.

Ha ha keep trying if I don’t get footy on the sunny coast I’ll survive, I won’t be driving 2 hours for a footy game.

 

[mongoose]

Wow you really have no idea, you would rather move a club with no links to the city to a club that has everything to do with city.

I'm not actually sure T-Boon follows League...

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I still think Dolphins Stadium needs another 10,000.

Does anyone know if the foundations at the ground can support a second tier, on top of the western, eastern and northern stands?

 

[Sunny coast shark]

I'm not actually sure T-Boon follows League...

I think you might be right, move Cronulla-Sutherland to SFS but not Souths ha ha.

 

[Sunny coast shark]

I still think Dolphins Stadium needs another 10,000.

Does anyone know if the foundations at the ground can support a second tier, on top of the western, eastern and northern stands?

Certainly at least 15k, my guess is it can’t it’s a pretty low cost build so I doubt it could support another tier.

 

[T-Boon]

I think you might be right, move Cronulla-Sutherland to SFS but not Souths ha ha.

souths already moved to get bigger crowds/support. Cronulla are dragging their arse at a garbage ground. They could move to SFS and take over the north sydney/city area.

 

[greenBV4]

souths already moved to get bigger crowds/support. Cronulla are dragging their arse at a garbage ground. They could move to SFS and take over the north sydney/city area.

wait you want cronulla to take over northern Sydney? Roosters, Manly, Souths, and Tigers Ive all heard before but Cronulla is a new one

 

[T-Boon]

wait you want cronulla to take over northern Sydney? Roosters, Manly, Souths, and Tigers Ive all heard before but Cronulla is a new one

yeah why not, but mainly because I like the name Sydney Sharks.

 

[greenBV4]

yeah why not, but mainly because I like the name Sydney Sharks.

I mean sure, but I think in most people's eyes Cronulla are and always will be a southern Sydney club, and personally im not a fan of split catchments - look at the tigers for an example of why not

Im all for clubs expanding their catchment though, roosters expansing over the bridge or manly focusing on more than their little peninsula for example

If they wanted (I doubt they do) Sharks could call themselves the Sydney Sharks and still be a southern sydney club

Or they could merge with souths to become the southern sydney sharks

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Certainly at least 15k, my guess is it can’t it’s a pretty low cost build so I doubt it could support another tier.

I hope the Queensland Cup GF and semi-finals are played at Dolphins Oval. Lang Park is too big.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I mean sure, but I think in most people's eyes Cronulla are and always will be a southern Sydney club, and personally im not a fan of split catchments - look at the tigers for an example of why not

Im all for clubs expanding their catchment though, roosters expansing over the bridge or manly focusing on more than their little peninsula for example

If they wanted (I doubt they do) Sharks could call themselves the Sydney Sharks and still be a southern sydney club

Or they could merge with souths to become the southern sydney sharks

Cronulla Sharks > South Sydney Sharks @ SFS
South Sydney Rabbitohs > Western Sydney Rabbitohs @ Stadium Australia/Parramatta Stadium
Wests Tigers > West Coast Tigers @ Perth Oval
Sydney Roosters @ SFS
Manly Warringah Sea Eagles > North Sydney Sea Eagles @ Central Coast Stadium
St George Illawarra Dragons > Illawarra Dragons @ Wollongong
Parramatta Eels @ Parramatta Stadium
Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs > Western Sydney Bulldogs @ Campbelltown/Stadium Australia
Penrith Panthers @ Penrith Football Stadium

9 Sydney clubs > 6 Sydney + 2 Regional NSW + 1 Perth

Brisbane Broncos @ Lang Park
East Coast Dolphins @ Lang Park, Dolphins Oval and Sunshine Coast Stadium
Brisbane Firehawks @ Lang Park

 

[greenBV4]

Cronulla Sharks > South Sydney Sharks @ SFS
South Sydney Rabbitohs > Western Sydney Rabbitohs @ Stadium Australia/Parramatta Stadium
Wests Tigers > West Coast Tigers @ Perth Oval
Sydney Roosters @ SFS
Manly Warringah Sea Eagles > North Sydney Sea Eagles @ Central Coast Stadium
St George Illawarra Dragons > Illawarra Dragons @ Wollongong
Parramatta Eels @ Parramatta Stadium
Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs > Western Sydney Bulldogs @ Campbelltown/Stadium Australia
Penrith Panthers @ Penrith Football Stadium

9 Sydney clubs > 6 Sydney + 2 Regional NSW + 1 Perth

Brisbane Broncos @ Lang Park
East Coast Dolphins @ Lang Park, Dolphins Stadium and Sunshine Coast Stadium
Brisbane 3 @ Lang Park

I could get behind this, except for the south sydney rename, souths is iconic - would we call them wests? and I'd bring in NZ 2 before Bris 3

Im guessing the 2nd Regional club here is penrith?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Illawarra and North Sydney would be the regional clubs. Sea Eagles could change their name to Central Coast.

 

[greenBV4]

Cronulla Sharks > South Sydney Sharks @ SFS
South Sydney Rabbitohs > Western Sydney Rabbitohs @ Stadium Australia/Parramatta Stadium
Wests Tigers > West Coast Tigers @ Perth Oval
Sydney Roosters @ SFS
Manly Warringah Sea Eagles > North Sydney Sea Eagles @ Central Coast Stadium
St George Illawarra Dragons > Illawarra Dragons @ Wollongong
Parramatta Eels @ Parramatta Stadium
Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs > Western Sydney Bulldogs @ Campbelltown/Stadium Australia
Penrith Panthers @ Penrith Football Stadium

9 Sydney clubs > 6 Sydney + 2 Regional NSW + 1 Perth

Brisbane Broncos @ Lang Park
East Coast Dolphins @ Lang Park, Dolphins Oval and Sunshine Coast Stadium
Brisbane Firehawks @ Lang Park

My slight tweak to this but keeping it fairly close would be

West Coast Pirates @ Perth

Southern Sharks @ New Adelaide Stadium

South Sydney Rabbitohs (Souths) @ SFS (All of SE sydney)
Western Sydney Tigers (Wests) @ WSS & ANZ (Western Sydney)
East Coast Roosters (Easts) @ SFS & CC (NE Sydney and CC)
Parramatta Eels @ WSS (Greater Parra)
Sydney Bulldogs @ ANZ (United Sydney)
Penrith Panthers @ Penrith + Regional games

St George Illawarra Dragons (Saints) @ Wollongong (can keep st george in the name)

Auckland Warriors @ Auckland
South Island Eagles @ New Christchurch stadium (with their maori jersey) + games to Dunedin

Brisbane Broncos @ Lang Park
Moreton Bay Dolphins @ Lang Park & SC

GC
NQ
Newcastle
Canberra
Melbourne

18 teams - national spread
Heritage round played at spiritual homes
"on the road" round played at places like darwin, central qld, hobart, geelong, wellington
Magic round in new city each year

SEQ4 for team 19
NZ3, melb2, png or pacific for team 20 (but not for a while and right one of these would be more clear)

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

My slight tweak to this but keeping it fairly close would be

West Coast Pirates @ Perth

Southern Sharks @ New Adelaide Stadium

South Sydney Rabbitohs (Souths) @ SFS (All of SE sydney)
Western Sydney Tigers (Wests) @ WSS & ANZ (Western Sydney)
East Coast Roosters (Easts) @ SFS & CC (NE Sydney and CC)
Parramatta Eels @ WSS (Greater Parra)
Sydney Bulldogs @ ANZ (United Sydney)
Penrith Panthers @ Penrith + Regional games

St George Illawarra Dragons (Saints) @ Wollongong (can keep st george in the name)

Auckland Warriors @ Auckland
South Island Eagles @ New Christchurch stadium (with their maori jersey) + games to Dunedin

Brisbane Broncos @ Lang Park
Moreton Bay Dolphins @ Lang Park & SC

GC
NQ
Newcastle
Canberra
Melbourne

18 teams - national spread
Heritage round played at spiritual homes
"on the road" round played at places like darwin, central qld, hobart, geelong, wellington
Magic round in new city each year

SEQ4 for team 19
NZ3, melb2, png or pacific for team 20 (but not for a while and right one of these would be more clear)

That could work.

 

[The Great Dane]

Need more than one game at sunny coast to appeal to us, look how successful the storm were up here.
I’m hoping for 2-3 games for me to get a membership and support the team.

You eventually want an NRL team right?

Well do yourself a favour and support your local team instead of praying for the occasional NRL games that will almost certainly be inconsistent, not actually have a large long term effect on the local grassroots, will only suck money out of the local game and economy, and will make your region be seen as a resource to be mined by the club that is partnered with the region, just like 'Canberra shouldn't get a club because it is GWS territory' to a lot of AFL fans.

Supporting the Falcons and attending their games in numbers will see money flowing into the local grassroots, and will prove that there is a large consumer base for a Sunshine Coast NRL team, which is probably the best chance the Sunshine Coast has of getting an NRL team in the next couple of generations.

If the Sunshine Coast Falcons were averaging, e.g., 15k a week that would be undeniable proof of demand for the product, would pump untold thousands/millions of dollars straight into the local grassroots, and everyone in their right mind would be seriously considering promoting them straight into the NRL right now.

 

[Perth Red]

You eventually want an NRL team right?

Well do yourself a favour and support your local team instead of praying for the occasional NRL games that will almost certainly be inconsistent, not actually have a large long term effect on the local grassroots, will only suck money out of the local game and economy, and will make your region be seen as a resource to be mined by the club that is partnered with the region, just like 'Canberra shouldn't get a club because it is GWS territory' to a lot of AFL fans.

Supporting the Falcons and attending their games in numbers will see money flowing into the local grassroots, and will prove that there is a large consumer base for a Sunshine Coast NRL team, which is probably the best chance the Sunshine Coast has of getting an NRL team in the next couple of generations.

If the Sunshine Coast Falcons were averaging, e.g., 15k a week that would be undeniable proof of demand for the product, would pump untold thousands/millions of dollars straight into the local grassroots, and everyone in their right mind would be seriously considering promoting them straight into the NRL right now.

is there any semi-professional sports league in the world that draws more than 10k crowd avg? Aside from English soccer I doubt there are many second tier comps that can crack 5 figure crowd avg’s.

 

[The Great Dane]

Agreed but unfortunately fans won’t leave their area.

Ha ha keep trying if I don’t get footy on the sunny coast I’ll survive, I won’t be driving 2 hours for a footy game.

Then why do you expect Sunshine Coast fans to support a chimera Brisbane club that is trying to be everything to everyone in numbers?

Of course the answer is that they won't support them in numbers, not really anyway, and the Dolphins games that are played on the Sunshine Coast will be treated like the circus coming to town, a fun novelty, nothing more nothing less.

You'll also find that a lot of people will get frustrated with the Dolphins as they believed that they were a stop gap before the Sunshine Coast gets their own team, yet that team will never come. You don't want to be to the NRL what Canberra, and especially Tasmania, are to the AFL.

 

[The Great Dane]

is there any semi-professional sports league in the world that draws more than 10k crowd avg? Aside from English soccer I doubt there are many second tier comps that can crack 5 figure crowd avg’s.

Just because it's not common doesn't mean it's impossible, and surely if it's ever going to happen then, at some level, it must start with local fans, such as Sunny coast shark here, choosing to support their local lower tier clubs over, or in tandem with, the larger NRL clubs.

BTW, depending on how you define "second tier" there are quite a few lower tier competitions that draw reasonable support all over the world, collegiate sports in America, lots of minor league Hockey and Baseball in the US and Canada, multiple soccer leagues across Europe, etc.
If it's possible to create reasonable fan bases for those leagues, then it's possible to do it here in Australia.