Redneck Redfaces

[moga]

A bit like the homosexual and the tomboy?

 

[POPEYE]

Suppose we're going to hear a bit of Prior the whole weekend. The meathead was looking for an opportunity
at payback for being niggled previously. It was clear the Dragons were going to try and stage a vigorous comeback
or at least assert some authority which was the obvious thing a good coach would impress on his team.

Prior's thought processes were not up to the task as a desired comeback would be more likely with 13 men.
Thurston was right in thinking Prior's brainsnap deserved an extended lay on the turf but I liked the way the Dragons
finished the game after being treated to an awesome performance by the Cowboys. Price will no doubt now be
looking for a forward who can follow instructions with a level head and the repercussions for Prior might be more
than just a suspension.

 

[POPEYE]

Still not sure what to make of Kearney. A propensity for wishing all new coaches be great ones could be clouding my judgement.
Would have had a better idea of his worth if he went to a team like Canberra or Cronulla. The Eels have a prima donna and a record
of losing the right and buying the wrong players which is not conducive to starting a coaching career.

Some of their players struggle with anything more than tackling and running. Not many will ever suffer mental fatigue. Parra supporters
will always be amongst the most naive but with that naivity comes patience the team doesn't deserve. They are well overdue for their turn
at flag waving and whilst I still have good vibes about Kearney the Eels need nothing less than Bellamy, Griffin or Hasler

 

[PaddyBoy]

By the same argument though, couldn't you say Hook has been given all the resources and team culture you can get?

 

[POPEYE]

By the same argument though, couldn't you say Hook has been given all the resources and team culture you can get?

Hook is Kearney?

 

[PaddyBoy]

Hook is Kearney?

No I meant that you saud that Kearney was made to look bad by the situation, but you could just as easily say Hook is being made to look good.

 

[Nice Beaver]

By the same argument though, couldn't you say Hook has been given all the resources and team culture you can get?

But in the blokes defence he did coach and nurture all of the young guns in the team when they were in the Toyota Cup team.

If Craig Bellamy was coach of Parramatta they would not be last. Kearney CANNOT coach.

 

[Mr Fourex]

Still not sure what to make of Kearney. A propensity for wishing all new coaches be great ones could be clouding my judgement.
Would have had a better idea of his worth if he went to a team like Canberra or Cronulla. The Eels have a prima donna and a record
of losing the right and buying the wrong players which is not conducive to starting a coaching career.

Some of their players struggle with anything more than tackling and running. Not many will ever suffer mental fatigue. Parra supporters
will always be amongst the most naive but with that naivity comes patience the team doesn't deserve. They are well overdue for their turn
at flag waving and whilst I still have good vibes about Kearney the Eels need nothing less than Bellamy, Griffin or Hasler

You were well and truly on the Stephen Kearney bandwagon back late in 2010.......round about the time NZ had their 4N success. Most of your opinion I thought was based on Kearney being underneath Craig Bellamy.

Teams don't make great coaches.

Coaches make great teams.........

Your defence of Kearney being hard done by through taking on the perpetually hapless Eels, holds no water.

I said it then, and I still believe Kearney's coaching prowess is a myth.

 

[Mr Fourex]

By the same argument though, couldn't you say Hook has been given all the resources and team culture you can get?

No........Griffin hasn't been "given" anything. He has earned and has played a large part in all of his young charges football upbringing.

He now deservedly is reaping the rewards.

 

[POPEYE]

I'm totally convinced whether or not the Warriors win or lose is entirely in their hands. No team in the NRL
will beat them on their day. They gave Brisbane a couple of invitations which kept them in it but tonight
they played to their potential.

The Broncos must have a shadow board at the clubhouse. Don't think there's another team with as many
players evenly matched in body size. Hodges is the latest to look like a second rower. Liked the raspy voiced
game caller who reminded me of Mossop. He said during the commentary that the interest in League in NZ is
going ballistic . . . testimony to the Toyota Cup I reckon. Won't be long before the pundits are calling for a second Kiwi team.

 

[POPEYE]

You were well and truly on the Stephen Kearney bandwagon back late in 2010.......round about the time NZ had their 4N success. Most of your opinion I thought was based on Kearney being underneath Craig Bellamy.

Teams don't make great coaches.

Coaches make great teams.........

Your defence of Kearney being hard done by through taking on the perpetually hapless Eels, holds no water.

I said it then, and I still believe Kearney's coaching prowess is a myth.

Mate, I thought Anderson was a good coach. Kearney may not be great for the team but Hayne is a bigger hurdle. Like the Eels management are saying publicly I haven't given up on Kearney just yet.

 

[Fire]

I'm totally convinced whether or not the Warriors win or lose is entirely in their hands. No team in the NRL
will beat them on their day. They gave Brisbane a couple of invitations which kept them in it but tonight
they played to their potential.

The Broncos must have a shadow board at the clubhouse. Don't think there's another team with as many
players evenly matched in body size. Hodges is the latest to look like a second rower. Liked the raspy voiced
game caller who reminded me of Mossop. He said during the commentary that the interest in League in NZ is
going ballistic . . . testimony to the Toyota Cup I reckon. Won't be long before the pundits are calling for a second Kiwi team.

Yeah I've heard the same thing about League going ballistic in New Zealand. Apparently all the kids want to be a Warrior instead of an All Black these days.

I've heard it comes down to two things.

1. The success of the under-20s and Warriors making the Grand Final.
2. The amount of time the under-20s get on TV.

Good luck to em.

 

[POPEYE]

I reckon the Storm have played 18 games this year. Over the years watching Bellamy at half time and the way the players
are loathe to look away when he talks I'm sure the first half is one game where the coach has a rough idea of what to expect
and gives the team a basic game plan.

The second half is an entirely new game when he has analysed the opposition in front of him. Every coach except Brian Smith
is capable of revising a game plan at half time but the great ones can concoct a completely new one. I believe Bellamy tells
his players all they have to concentrate on is 40 minutes of football at a time.

One thing for sure Gould is not going to leave his coach without promising young players to threaten the established ones.
Couple of exciting blokes on show tonight and every club should always have a few in the works . . . wonder if Kearney has the same luxury.

 

[Fire]

Hey Popeye. Sorry to hijack your thread again I'll do my best to keep it to a minimum in the future. Look, I'm just worried about my beloved Dragons and wanted to get an old head's/neutral league mind's view on something.

Do you think we're about to go through a Brownie thing all over again. I'm worried as f#ck. I think the ANZAC day win covered up a lot of problems. Do you think Pricey is too young and too close to the boys, therefore cannot make tough decisions such as dropping players, etc???

 

[POPEYE]

Hey Popeye. Sorry to hijack your thread again I'll do my best to keep it to a minimum in the future. Look, I'm just worried about my beloved Dragons and wanted to get an old head's/neutral league mind's view on something.

Do you think we're about to go through a Brownie thing all over again. I'm worried as f#ck. I think the ANZAC day win covered up a lot of problems. Do you think Pricey is too young and too close to the boys, therefore cannot make tough decisions such as dropping players, etc???

Crikey, I hope not everyone's under the same misconception as you. The only people I want to keep out
of this thread are rednecks . . . abusive people. I'm hoping if I hang in long enough I might find civilization.

Seriously, what was wrong with Brownie other than being too passionate. Benny achieved only slightly
better with more ammunition. By his demeanor on screen, which is all I have to go by, Price seems well
in control. The loss against the Cowboys was no more disastrous than that of the Broncos last night.

He can't drop players until convinced he has potential replacements, preferably ones of his making.
That is if he wants to be the coach we want him to be. I think Price will give you more satisfaction than
you'll get from me

 

[POPEYE]

Tried to watch the game at Skilled Park last night but it couldn't keep me awake and the replay this morning
isn't going to keep me away from watering the garden. Sheens is having trouble uncovering what's going wrong
but he's not going to find out watching the game as a spectator on the sideline. Think it would be a giveup when
the great coaches analyse the game from the best possible position.

Titans are clearly struggling for combinations not helped by a fog of uncertainty surrounding the viability of the club itself.
Watching Friend inspire the Warriors reminded me of how badly they have gone without him. He would be an Origin player and Farrar is not.

Tigers are playing like turnstyles with Benji the worst offender as can be testified to when they can only beat two
teams who are struggling by a point. Reddy tried hard as you would expect from a Parra player away from Parra

 

[Fire]

Crikey, I hope not everyone's under the same misconception as you. The only people I want to keep out
of this thread are rednecks . . . abusive people. I'm hoping if I hang in long enough I might find civilization.

Seriously, what was wrong with Brownie other than being too passionate. Benny achieved only slightly
better with more ammunition. By his demeanor on screen, which is all I have to go by, Price seems well
in control. The loss against the Cowboys was no more disastrous than that of the Broncos last night.

He can't drop players until convinced he has potential replacements, preferably ones of his making.
That is if he wants to be the coach we want him to be. I think Price will give you more satisfaction than
you'll get from me

Cheers mate! True about Brownie there was nothing majorly wrong with him, he was passionate about the Saints. True what you said about dropping players only if there is replacements to bring through. Hmmm, I dunno, maybe I'm panicking too early. I'm definitely gonna stand by Pricey for the two years of his contract though, not gonna knock him, just hope he can make the big calls when he has to. Hopefully Dragons will turn it around over the next few weeks. Cheers!

 

[Cloudsurfer]

I think chest-beating type guys who do shoulder charges are like snipers - waiting for the opportunity to get a hit. Anyone unsuspecting & vulnerable seems to be the criteria. It's done for shock value, to deliberately hurt & to seek praise for what big 'men' they are. If it was to play the game of league it would be with arms engaged and a fair hit.
There's a thread on here about Matulino & his 'shoulder of granite' (lol what a great thing to go down in the annals as) and a few seem to take great joy in seeing him pick off the casualtiies (as with a few other of his ilk). The guy has skills and his big tackles are of the calibre that makes league rightfully earn it's reputation as a hard-hitting, tough game & exciting to watch but I have no respect for snipers.
I look forward to the day he (and others) come off second-best when they ply that trade on the field & I hope it happens before theres any real 'collateral damage'.
I'll be called a wuss and anything else that is less than a 'real man' but I just prefer brains with brawn.

 

[POPEYE]

Usually what comes around goes around. Saw Burns get the shits with Hoffman when he was only
playing to the whistle so even though Burns was mistaken it didn't stop him trying to square up later
with a shoulder charge that missed and made him look a fool.

Problem with shoulder charges is that they become instinctive when they become part of a repertoire.
Then we see players forgetting when they can or can't be used such as tackling a kicker or if a player
slips or ducks. A very low percentage play considering possible ramifications

 

[POPEYE]

Michael Chee Kam is a perfect example imo of what supporters have the right to expect from juniors.
All clubs are required to promote the game through junior development no matter where the juniors come from in the first place.

Whilst that requirement is a prerequisite it is nevertheless not a sign of ownership. Chee Kam belonged
to no-one until he signed to play with Manly's top side. When he becomes a regular in the side, not before,
he should be allowed a concession under the cap as a one club player.

If he becomes a champion player Manly should not be allowed to pay him more than a ceiling amount
but if Nike wants to pay him a million a year to wear their boots and a contract is registered saying as much
no-one has the right to use it against him