Redneck Redfaces

[POPEYE]

I don't think there will be a fight either tonight. Surely the players don't care that much and one of the key people involved is now a Tiger.

On Brenton Lawerence, I'm pretty sure he is eligible only for Qld. The Australian article might state otherwise (I haven't read it) but he was born in Queensland so I don't think he will be eligible for NSW - Mario seems to think he is Chris Lawerence's brother though.. He is showing some promise but I don't think he will ever get close to an Origin match he just isn't up to that standard

I was being facetious to a large extent because he says he played his junior footy in Adelaide. One of my
pet hates is one day we'll have great players born and playing in other states and therefore not eligible for
Origin.

 

[POPEYE]

Truck driving so meatheads can make money, religion so the insecure don't jump of cliffs and Rothfield
so we know IQ isn't everything. Today he would have us believe that Graham Murray didn't hand Stuart
a gf which he could have turned into 3 or 4 if he knew how to coach.

Rothfield says Stuart might be coaching any one of four clubs and the Eels are favourites. At least his
coaching ability will match the standard of management at the joint. Price is supposed to be struggling
according to Rothfield. The f**kwit would have us believe that every coach is handed all the players he
needs and it's only a matter of pointing them towards the goalposts.

If you gave any of the three supercoaches the Eels team as it stands you could forget anything happening
inside a couple of years. Probably never because they wouldn't put up with the rubbish from the head of the river.
Furner is the only coach that should feel threatened and that's because he's taken too long finding a #7,#6 or
#9 with even half a footy brain

 

[POPEYE]

Must be difficult for bench players when big games are being played. They know they have limited time
to impress in a game that means more than just 2 points like the one at Brookie. Vave came on and
did just about everything wrong. More than once he could have cost Melbourne the game when
normally he adds a lot. I think someone previously in this thread said Slater just picks up the juicy
crumbs in a game but tonight we saw how valuable he is when Cronk and Smith are looking for an
impossible pass. No Billy no miracles, just a hard grind

 

[no name]

Well, you certainly had me worried for a moment there whoever you are. Having just watched the replay
I'm more convinced the penalty was for a push on Sandow that wasn't. If the penalty was on Taylor for
pushing Burt it was that far off the ball it was ludicrous. Burt had as much chance of getting to the ball
carrier as I have converting to Christianity

Wrong again my good sir.

http://www.nrl.com/official-view-burgess-no-try-call-correct/tabid/10874/newsid/68116/default.aspx

Referees co-coach Stuart Raper answers your most frequently asked questions from round 15 and State Of Origin II.

RABBITOHS v EELS

What were your thoughts on the no-try ruling against South Sydney's Luke Burgess?

South Sydney were not penalised for the push on Chris Sandow, but rather the involvement of Dave Taylor in the play. Taylor moves out deliberately in front of Luke Burt and prevents him from having any opportunity to make any kind of tackle. It has a big impact on the play and eventuates in Burgess crossing the line. We were very happy with the no-try ruling. They got the call correct.

Not saying I agree with it but that's what the penalty was for.

 

[POPEYE]

Wrong again my good sir.

http://www.nrl.com/official-view-burgess-no-try-call-correct/tabid/10874/newsid/68116/default.aspx

Not saying I agree with it but that's what the penalty was for.

Have to agree with that. At the time It never crossed my mind that Taylor/Burt could possibly come into the equation.

 

[POPEYE]

Hasler is rapidly losing my favour and soon will be dropped from this crazy old man's team of coaches.
I won't abide poaching of players from teams that need them. The arsehole of Sydney is about to
become most people's club to hate for the right reasons. Hasler will always remain a supercoach but
his need for quick fixes is about to reincarnate the ugly Manly laziness.

I don't agree with Bellamy when he says Hoffman should replace Glenn Stewart in Origin. Ryan is not
fast enough between the ears to replace Glenn, especially with the interaction he has with his brother.
Hoffman could replace Watmough easily but replacing a ball player with a workhorse is not the answer.

Seems Penrith players are not as one. Why would they be when Jennings was allowed back in the side.
Two steps forward and one back will get the Panthers nowhere. If Lewis thinks he's bigger than the
club piss him off as well. Cleary has more to worry about as does Furner . . . playmaker halves for
both clubs are the priority.

Just as the Inglis try in Origin was ok so was DCE's try last night. Hoffman knew he had to dislodge the
ball just as Farrar had to. Taufua's mid air tackles being allowed were interesting, particularly the one
on Neilsen when he had his ankles locked together a metre off the ground. I was waiting for the usual
Manly rabbit's foot to win them the game but for once luck desrted them.

Seems Kasiano possibly becoming a Maroon is a charade when Tamou becoming a Blue was common
sense. If someone walks, talks and looks like another nationality he shouldn't be allowed to ruin a
great Australian tradition. Pity the government didn't show the same concern about what's happening in
south west Sydney.

Roosters cry over Perritt and crow about Oldfield like they did about Maloney. Some clubs aren't worth
feeling sorry for. The Dogs have a coach capable of making his own champions and the Roosters have
one capable of breaking champions . . . neither will get any pity from me.

At least the Dogs taking a game to the far north makes more sense than the Roosters playing a Q team
in tropical conditions. Maybe Hasler thinks players having played the majority of their career in cold
weather will give his team an advantage. WTF, Queenslanders can play anywhere.

 

[ek999]

The Bulldogs have lost the following backs this year
- Bryson Goodwin (season?)
- Steve Turner (season)
- Tim Lafai (season)
- Mitch Brown (season)
- Michael Lett (retired just as he was about to play first grade)
- Luke MacDougall (back soon)

Its a lot of players to lose and has removed all depth that they have. It's not a quick fix, their playing u20's in NSW Cup to give them experience but if they're not ready for first grade, what are they to do. Either play players out of position hurting the structure and balance of the team or bring in new players if possible. Hasler and Cleal have brought through some very talented players at a young age - Lyon, DCE, Foran, B Stewart, W Hopoate off the top of my head. They know what they are doing and know if the players in the lower grades are up to it or not

 

[firechild]

The Bulldogs have lost the following backs this year
- Bryson Goodwin (season?)
- Steve Turner (season)
- Tim Lafai (season)
- Mitch Brown (season)
- Michael Lett (retired just as he was about to play first grade)
- Luke MacDougall (back soon)

Its a lot of players to lose and has removed all depth that they have. It's not a quick fix, their playing u20's in NSW Cup to give them experience but if they're not ready for first grade, what are they to do. Either play players out of position hurting the structure and balance of the team or bring in new players if possible. Hasler and Cleal have brought through some very talented players at a young age - Lyon, DCE, Foran, B Stewart, W Hopoate off the top of my head. They know what they are doing and know if the players in the lower grades are up to it or not

Are you aware that those players weren't all scouted by Cleal? There was a reason the dogs wanted Warwick instead of Cleal. IIRC neither DCE nor Foran were found by Cleal and Hopoate was the son of a Manly premiership winner playing in the Manly juniors, didn't take much to find the kid. B. Stewart (and G. Stewart obviously) came to Manly as juniors, they made their debuts in 2003 and 2004 respectively. Cleal moved from Parra to manly as a scout in 2004.

So well done, 1 out of 5 aint bad.

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

Are you aware that those players weren't all scouted by Cleal? There was a reason the dogs wanted Warwick instead of Cleal. IIRC neither DCE nor Foran were found by Cleal and Hopoate was the son of a Manly premiership winner playing in the Manly juniors, didn't take much to find the kid. B. Stewart (and G. Stewart obviously) came to Manly as juniors, they made their debuts in 2003 and 2004 respectively. Cleal moved from Parra to manly as a scout in 2004.

So well done, 1 out of 5 aint bad.

Needs more coaches....

 

[no name]

. Taufua's mid air tackles being allowed were interesting, particularly the one on Neilsen when he had his ankles locked together a metre off the ground

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You can tackle attacking players in the air.

 

[ek999]

Hasler coached 1st Division for Manly from 2001 to 2003 and 1st Grade from 2004 and B Stewart debuted in 2003 and was a regular from 2004 onwards and Hasler had nothing to do with his development? G Stewart debuted in 2004 and didn't play regular first grade until 2007 and Hasler didn't have anything to do with that? DCE, Foran and Hopoate all came through the Manly system that Hasler and Cleal put together. Who finds them is irrelevant, its what you do with them after you get them that counts.

Unless they join Souths, they're going to struggle no matter who they are if they do that

 

[Cliffhanger]

Excuse me old man, but where did the Roosters whinge about Perrett?

We simply changed our mind about giving him up mid-season because of our own injury problems, it was the Roosters who told him to look elsewhere and most Roosters' fans believe it's his time to go.

You old man are what we call a hypocrite, you have a massive whinge about people taking the piss out Souths and then have a dig at the Roosters at every opportunity.

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

Excuse me old man, but where did the Roosters whinge about Perrett?

We simply changed our mind about giving him up mid-season because of our own injury problems, it was the Roosters who told him to look elsewhere and most Roosters' fans believe it's his time to go.

You old man are what we call a hypocrite, you have a massive whinge about people taking the piss out Souths and then have a dig at the Roosters at every opportunity.

Needs more yabbies.

 

[Hutty1986]

Who the f*ck is "Farrar"?

 

[firechild]

Who the f*ck is "Farrar"?

Ben Farrar? He played FB for most of the 2nd season (2010) Stewart missed through injury. Now he's out for the season with a knee injury.

 

[POPEYE]

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You can tackle attacking players in the air.

So you can only break bones if a player's trying to catch a high ball in attack . . . wasn't aware of it but it sounds fair to me.

 

[POPEYE]

Excuse me old man, but where did the Roosters whinge about Perrett?

We simply changed our mind about giving him up mid-season because of our own injury problems, it was the Roosters who told him to look elsewhere and most Roosters' fans believe it's his time to go.

You old man are what we call a hypocrite, you have a massive whinge about people taking the piss out Souths and then have a dig at the Roosters at every opportunity.

Most Roosters' fans believe it's his time to go. Do you mean those on the back of a postage stamp in
Sydney or those I see who are screaming blue murder. I whinge about people taking the piss out of
Souths because they don't deserve it and I'm interested in their progress. No team deserves a thread
aimed at ridiculing it, not even Parramatta, Newcastle or the Roosters. If you're allowed to put shit on
Souths I'm allowed to put shit on the bloke coaching the Roosters and those that let him get away with it.

 

[POPEYE]

Who the f*ck is "Farrar"?

Where would we be without you picking up on the real important things

 

[POPEYE]

Just for you Cliffhanger. When the Roosters install JT as their coach or bring back Graham Murray I will
again become a follower. Bet you can't wait

 

[POPEYE]

A lot of people are going to hate me for this but the list of the ten top Rugby League players is as big a
crock of shit as Adam and Eve. If you said these ten were some of the many great players and were
chosen as landmarks for a particular era I would be satisfied to go along with it. No-one alive would
have a f**king clue how good a player Messenger was and 'best' doesn't enter into it. He is the father
of League and that's good enough. As for the rest, anyone could name a dozen players for each one
that were just as exciting and talented. Media will not make any mileage of naivity from me

I'm glad they use that picture of Paul Crawley on his columns . . . he looks as dumb as he writes.
Once upon a time when jerseys were loose and had long sleeves there were plenty of things to hang
on to but now the baggiest thing is the shorts. As long as players don't use someone's arse like it was
a bowling ball everything else is fair.

John Grant is already restoring my faith. What he says about National pride in the tele has no knee
jerking and is a good read. The trouble with League though is that it's only ever going to be a three
horse race and 2nd and 3rd dividends are miniscule. If a player from anywhere is not going to have
the same bragging rights as a soccer or union player in the international arena you can't blame him
for making the best of limited opportunities in a very short career.

Webster in his column refers to Tamou as being 'the poor bloke'. NSW supporters don't see him that
way. They see him as a saviour and rightly so. Australian League supporters wouldn't like it if all
players with a Polynesian ancestry weren't allowed to play for an Australian team and had to play in
the NRL for a NZ team. Be interesting if all dark skinned players played for one of possibly 3 strong
teams from NZ. Beside the point, which is, NSW and it's journo representatives are again shitting their
pants that Q is counteracting with the obvious new generation front rower just as the opposition has done.

From the horse's mouth we learn that the Dogs are about to embark on a campaign of replacing the worst
of theirs with the best from other clubs. Why not. Put a Bob Fulton mask on Hasler and an Arko one on
Greenberg and Bob's your uncle. Canterbury-Bankstown' s credibility may as well match it's surroundings.

In the 'Australian' we read that Sam Perrett had a falling out with Brian Smith. Funny that. The list of
good players falling out with this dickhead would make a 'who's who' of League. Roosters have
blocked Sam's move temporarily on the pretence that he should see out his contract. So much for
Bondi not wanting him. My guess is that before he has to sign anything Smith may well be holding Gallop's hand