Redneck Redfaces

[soc123_au]

I've watched enough games to think that Jennings will never be SOO material and is highly overrated
and over paid in club games . . . but opinions are what forums are supposed to be about.

I was hoping for a more spirited response than that. I thought you like a bit of debate. I was waiting to read your take on why Tighe is better value than Jennings.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Always need someone to hold your hand when having a piss?

Are you asking me out?

Meanwhile, Trevor Cogger, Michael Pobje, Charlie Saab and Brad Tighe >> Michael Jennings. :thumb:

 

[POPEYE]

I was hoping for a more spirited response than that. I thought you like a bit of debate. I was waiting to read your take on why Tighe is better value than Jennings.

Did you expect me to abuse your right to an opinion. I don't agree with your valuation of Jennings nor
your devaluation of Tighe but I'm also not a Penrith supporter and I don't have a subconcious need to
justify him being in the team.

I'm not a fan of players who think they're better than they are and you might be surprised to hear I think
Luke Lewis is overrated to a degree both by others and himself. If I was a fan of one particular team
neither would be considered value for money enough to purchase but Tighe would.

 

[POPEYE]

Imo Parramatta were impressive tonight regardless of the score. Given the Eels roster compared to
Souths the game was in doubt far longer than I imagined it would be. As Jabba said, the Rabbitohs
just need a bit of fine tuning to beat all comers and definitely have the forwards to do a Raiders on the
Dogs. Barba would find himself in a nightmare trying to stop Inglis.

 

[POPEYE]

Moi Moi might only be short but according to Rabs and Jabba he's got the longest wrist in the game.
There's a lot of players with the ball doing things with elbows and forearms that those without the ball
can't get away with. On a par with being allowed to dangerously tackle a bloke in mid air if he's over
your tryline.

I always wonder what Sheens can tell his team at half time if he's only guessing what they did wrong
in the first half. I used to hate being time keeper on the sideline and never felt I could contribute anything
in the post match sheds unless watching the game from atop my trusty esky high on the mound.

Great to hear Brett Hodgson continues to get up from being used as a door mat to lead his team to
Challenge Cup victory. If he survives League he'll become the greatest living successful Parramatta
reject of all time for which, because of such a large number of candidates, should be awarded a cup in itself.

 

[soc123_au]

Did you expect me to abuse your right to an opinion. I don't agree with your valuation of Jennings nor
your devaluation of Tighe but I'm also not a Penrith supporter and I don't have a subconcious need to
justify him being in the team.

I'm not a fan of players who think they're better than they are and you might be surprised to hear I think
Luke Lewis is overrated to a degree both by others and himself. If I was a fan of one particular team
neither would be considered value for money enough to purchase but Tighe would.

No, I wasnt expecting any abuse, was interested in how you came to the conclusion on Tighe. Granted, he played very well on Saturday, but one swallow doesn't make a summer.

But if you prefer talking to yourself, well carry on.....

 

[POPEYE]

Not sure what else I can say about a journeyman player who gives his best every time he plays
compared to another who has to be pressured. Tighe may well be replaced by a better player but he is
not under the threat of expulsion for causing disharmony. I've been watching him play for years and it
must be remembered anyone holding a position in the top grade is a cut above thousands.

 

[soc123_au]

Fair enough point. Thanks for clarifying. I cant disagree with the blokes effort, I still see Jennings as a worthwile member of the team though. Life would be pretty boring if we all agreed with everyone else. Cheers.

 

[POPEYE]

A subject I will debate strongly concerns who is the best coach. After 'immortals' this is the most
nonsensical rubbish doing the rounds and there's no such thing as 'best'. There are a few supercoaches,
some on the verge of and some aspiring supercoaches, some who'll never be more than competent
and a couple of dinosaurs.

The 'best' coaches never get paid for their efforts. They are the ones who introduce youngsters to the game.
Teaching an 8 year old the basics and keeping him interested for years until he becomes serious is the
domain of real coaches.

Given the same roster and set of circumstances any of the top 5 most respected coaches would do no
worse than have luck decide an outcome. To categorically say one would coach each of the other top 4
teams to a better result is not only ludicrous but unsubstantiated.

Bellamy was a clear leader with an inferior forward pack before Origin and Hasler jumped ahead with
ordinary halves because of Origin. Swapping the two coaches would not have altered the current
standing. Both Bellamy and Hasler would probably have not brought Souths to a happier spot than
Maguire has and I doubt if any of those three would have snapped the Knights into reality better than Benny.
Benny would have done exactly the same with the Dogs as has Hasler.

Coaches don't come with 'best or better' tags . . . they can either get the most from their players or they can't.

 

[POPEYE]

Both teams on display tonight would have to be combined and the best 17 picked to have a chance
against the Dogs or Rabbitohs, or even the Raiders. Even if the backs on both sides were at their best
neither side can boast a worthy enough pack of forwards. Can't blame the humidity in this one so I'll
give the second half a miss as there's a great documentary I've been saving.

 

[dogslife]

One day I'm going to read this thread from start to finish, basking in Pops wisdom

 

[POPEYE]

Here it is almost midnight and I finally watched a replay of the second half . . . wish I hadn't.
Melbourne may have been a victim of injustice in the past but two wrongs don't make a right, the
Sharks didn't deserve such a bullshit loss.

The only thing knucklehead Hoffman did right all night was take advantage of how long he is laying
down. He is a prime example of why not to involve a dunce in anything that could be construed as
obstruction. The dummy runner has to be smart enough to avoid contact otherwise it's a total waste
of f**king time.

 

[POPEYE]

Anyone who believes what I'm about to say is an accusation is a fool. Make believe Sica Manu had got
himself into some serious shit and through desperation he thought he could make some money from
last night's game. Maybe even a couple of his team mates were prepared to help him just this one time
because the season is just about decided anyway.

The game from hell for Sica is a perfect example imo to show what could happen by allowing complicated
betting on Rugby League . . . there will eventually come a day.

 

[POPEYE]

Hard to imagine we'd escape caterwauling from those saturated with ignorance if Gillon McLachlan
takes the gig. Imagine having a Mexican in charge when there's only one Mexican team in the comp.
Most of us realise however that having someone who knows how the funny shaped ball bounces but
oblivious to the backwater ways of League could bring the game into this century.

It's a wonder players don't go to England earlier in their careers. Like Roberstson who skipped over to
Venice and got married. When most of what's interesting in Europe could fit into NSW/QLD, the
money's great and supporters are almost mesmorised in cult status. Makes a red dust covered $57k
base salary a bit ordinary. Let's see if the ARLC make sure it's the people who deserve the dough
are the ones to get it.

 

[POPEYE]

Great coaching is more about psychology than tactics and some of lesser standard like Stuart have
nothing more to offer and need a tactician as an appendage. If Bellamy had of left Monday's bullshit
stand unanswered it would have been negligent.

He may not 'rest a few and give others a go' but he certainly is letting it known nothing is taken for
granted. Regardless of what the wankers think Melbourne has players that have no more to prove in
their careers and 'getting it up' is not far away from becoming tedious for some.

 

[BKT]

Gee Popeye, it's good to see that you have'nt changed, but it does appear that you are rapidly running out of debaters?;-)

 

[POPEYE]

If you're who I think you are M'lady an old flame is welcome anytime . . . at our age we only really want to be heard anyway.

 

[BKT]

If you're who I think you are M'lady an old flame is welcome anytime . . . at our age we only really want to be heard anyway.

Correct guess, of course it's me.

Yes...it's only when one reaches antiquity that one wishes one had listened more at an earlier age.

 

[Hutty1986]

Pops has got a giiirlfriiiend

 

[BKT]

Pops has got a giiirlfriiiend

OMG...a St Merge fan who can string more than 3 words together..it'a a miracle.