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Reece Robson

j0nesy

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I'd say Hunt is a running half who plays the same style as a five-eighth. The fact that he is a right foot kicker means he is best suited to the right side of the field.

I would have Norman in the 7 jumper playing of the left side and Hunt in 6 playing on the right. I wonder if Mary and his staff have ever tried this in the off-season or at training?
Jumper numbers aside, that’s pretty much how they play when they’re together.
 

Carlton

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Hunt is a fine 7. Just needs good 1-6's around him and encouraged to challenge the line a bit more after he has forwards that make decent yardage in a set...not after making it to our own 30 after 4-5 tackles.
But he is not the best for QLD.. so what!.
It is up to our coaching staff to get the best out of him and the team but they cant!

One of the things that really annoys me is the number of times when we get near the tryline with momentum and then put in a hitup. The ball is given to Lawrie and he has no impact, does not dent the line does not worry the defenders and we have wasted a tackle.

I know you have to setup for your set plays but not every single time and we shouldn't even be trying to play set moves when we have the defence moving backwards on their tryline. This is when you chance your arm and try to find the weak point in the defence and exploit the opportunity.
 

possm

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FMD you are such an arrogant prick at times.
You don't have to make anything easier for me to understand as I understand my position totally you Prat.
I believe that Hunt is a hooker masquerading as a halfback thus the reason for my post.
Is he an upgrade on what we had as a half, yes, is he as good as people think, IMO no, is he the answer to our prayers in respect of getting our team to premiership quality, IMO no, nor will he ever be.
I wouldn't have him in the top 6 half backs in the comp.
You say pick the best available players and then find a position for them well if that is the case there would be plenty of players better than Hunt that haven't made the team and nobody found a spot for them did they?
Hunt has played 11/2 games as a hooker all at rep footy level I think and he is keeping out high quality players so why do you think that is?
Why do you think he is not getting picked as half back?
The old adage that your third best centre or your 2nd best FB is your first picked winger is the very reason why we lost so many series in SOO.
Well I'm coming around to the idea that Hunt is not a reliable halfback. He is not a natural hooker and does not seem to possess the defensive skills necessary for the hooking position these days.

In my opinion the only way Hunt could be successful as a hooker at SGI is if we had a tackling machine like McInnes at lock.
 

Old Timer

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One of the things that really annoys me is the number of times when we get near the tryline with momentum and then put in a hitup. The ball is given to Lawrie and he has no impact, does not dent the line does not worry the defenders and we have wasted a tackle.

I know you have to setup for your set plays but not every single time and we shouldn't even be trying to play set moves when we have the defence moving backwards on their tryline. This is when you chance your arm and try to find the weak point in the defence and exploit the opportunity.
Excellent analysis
Please force entry into the coaches box on game day and take over the place.
 

Overseas dragon

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No he didn’t. What he ACTUALLY said was that Hunt was a 9 at that (Representative) level. In the same way that plenty of other players have played alternative positions in representative games to their regular club positions.
YES ANDREW JOHNS PLAYED HOOKER IN SOO
 

BLM01

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One of the things that really annoys me is the number of times when we get near the tryline with momentum and then put in a hitup. The ball is given to Lawrie and he has no impact, does not dent the line does not worry the defenders and we have wasted a tackle.

I know you have to setup for your set plays but not every single time and we shouldn't even be trying to play set moves when we have the defence moving backwards on their tryline. This is when you chance your arm and try to find the weak point in the defence and exploit the opportunity.

Unfortunately all teams do the set up forward hit up play but our attack in backline moves is still not silky smooth, easy to defend in most cases and slower than the better sides and we dont change or hardly use any surprise tactics.
We tend to stand too shallow all over the park.
That is the main difference and again it comes down to coaching and conservative instructions they are asked to abide by.
 

Carlton

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Unfortunately all teams do the set up forward hit up play but our attack in backline moves is still not silky smooth, easy to defend in most cases and slower than the better sides and we dont change or hardly use any surprise tactics.
We tend to stand too shallow all over the park.
That is the main difference and again it comes down to coaching and conservative instructions they are asked to abide by.

What I was getting at is that generally our forward hitup is not effective and we are not using anything other than forward hitup/set play, forward hitup/set play. You need to play off the back of a good hit up and set play not just do the same thing again.
 

BLM01

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What I was getting at is that generally our forward hitup is not effective and we are not using anything other than forward hitup/set play, forward hitup/set play. You need to play off the back of a good hit up and set play not just do the same thing again.

Yeh Carlton I understood what you originally meant and I concur, it is just all teams seem to do the meaningless non effective hitup just like we do to set up an attacking raid at the line. It is just our following backline plays are just as meaningless and cumbersome as most other teams do it quicker and sharper. And basically a lot of our tries at the line have been from barge overs.
Hunt butchered 1 in the 1st half that may of changed the outlook of the game against Cronulla only because he surprised himself to be in space when he was just originally hell bent on think passing 1st instead of pinning his ears back. That is our typical over rehearsed same plan plays that he is following instead of his natural instinct. You can see the plan last week was that Hunt was given too much responsibility to run everything and protect Field where they should have left Field run amuck and show what he has got on that left side and left Hunt to do his thing on the right side.
 

possm

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Coaching Knowledge not required to coach us as evidenced for the last six years.
I'm sure that on the occasions that we do really play well, most things have to go our way on the day and the pre-game speech says:

'no game plan today guys, just go out there and play what is in front of you. Widdop, you call the shots'.
 

Carlton

Juniors
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Yeh Carlton I understood what you originally meant and I concur, it is just all teams seem to do the meaningless non effective hitup just like we do to set up an attacking raid at the line. It is just our following backline plays are just as meaningless and cumbersome as most other teams do it quicker and sharper. And basically a lot of our tries at the line have been from barge overs.
Hunt butchered 1 in the 1st half that may of changed the outlook of the game against Cronulla only because he surprised himself to be in space when he was just originally hell bent on think passing 1st instead of pinning his ears back. That is our typical over rehearsed same plan plays that he is following instead of his natural instinct. You can see the plan last week was that Hunt was given too much responsibility to run everything and protect Field where they should have left Field run amuck and show what he has got on that left side and left Hunt to do his thing on the right side.

I think we play the structured hitup/set play more than most teams. The better teams know when to play whats in front of them when they're near the tryline.

I also think our forward hitups are not as effective, we seem to give the ball to Lawrie for the hitup way too much. He is enthusiastic but his hitups near the line have no impact and do not put the defence under any pressure and the ball dies just when we need to be using it.
 

BBTB

Juniors
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There is a strong rumour that Robson has signed with NQ however, no official mention as yet. Maybe he has an out, maybe he can pull out of that deal.

Well before the JDB trouble, I supported the idea that Robson could play the Dean Young role in the forwards which was so successful in 2009-2010 in the Bennett era; Robson is already a much better player than Dean Young.

This and other decisions made of late just goes to show that the experiment of having Millward promote/recruit and Mary select players just does not work. The head coach needs to own the decision to recruit/promote players and if he is not up to this, he should not be appointed as head coach.

Most head coaches have staff involved in pathways/recruitment/retention. The is a good reason for this to be so.

I say SGI should do their best to retain Robson and if they cannot reverse this mistake, both Millward and Mary should be held accountable and lose their job right now.
Most definitely.
 

BLM01

Coach
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There is a strong rumour that Robson has signed with NQ however, no official mention as yet. Maybe he has an out, maybe he can pull out of that deal.

Well before the JDB trouble, I supported the idea that Robson could play the Dean Young role in the forwards which was so successful in 2009-2010 in the Bennett era; Robson is already a much better player than Dean Young.

This and other decisions made of late just goes to show that the experiment of having Millward promote/recruit and Mary select players just does not work. The head coach needs to own the decision to recruit/promote players and if he is not up to this, he should not be appointed as head coach.

Most head coaches have staff involved in pathways/recruitment/retention. The is a good reason for this to be so.

I say SGI should do their best to retain Robson and if they cannot reverse this mistake, both Millward and Mary should be held accountable and lose their job right now.
"Robson is already a much better player than Dean Young'..
Possm..you cant be serious...or delirious.
 

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