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Reece Robson

possm

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I think the biggest problem may well have been his lack of faith and knowledge about his future at the club. I work with a guy who played with Parramatta and Easts for a while and then went to the London Broncos. He said that at least twice a year at Easts every player and their manager had a meeting with the coaching staff and had a discussion about the player’s performance, their progress, goals and the club’s plan for transitioning them to the top grade if they were not currently in the NRL side. He said that while there may be ‘other reasons’ for their strong recruitment and retention record, the Roosters handled their lower tier players well and gave them a sense that they were part of a wider plan and that they actually had a pathway to the NRL. He said that at Parramatta, at least during the time he played, he never knew from one week to the next what was happening to him and he thought only injury would bring him a chance at the top grade. That is why he left and went to England.
I suspect we don’t develop transition plans for our young players, or have planning meetings to outline their path into the NRL. Maybe Robson saw the writing on the wall.....being parked with his career in neutral as long as McInnes was used as an 80 minute hooker or becoming the new Kurt Mann and getting 15 minutes here or there in different positions.
You are most probably right! The pathways program is not managed well and our head coach is not interested in talking to lower grade players.

Just imagine if Mary played Robson from game one as lock and rotated him and McInnes during each of the games this season. We would sure know his suitability for first grade and have a very good idea of his quality when comparing him to McInnes.

We have unskilled old boys managing the football side of SGI. Unless we clean them out, we will never really progress.
 
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SaintPauli

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Time will tell on Robson but the now is this Kevin Walters just said on 360 that everyone in football knows Hunt is a 9. You can read into that as McGregor is not considered as a person in football within Kevin Walters circles
Probably because the dragons stupidly guaranteed and promised Hunt the no. 7 and now are too afraid to retract and make decisions which are best for team, club and us members who pay week in week out to watch woeful team performances.
 

since77

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Time will tell on Robson but the now is this Kevin Walters just said on 360 that everyone in football knows Hunt is a 9.

No he didn’t. What he ACTUALLY said was that Hunt was a 9 at that (Representative) level. In the same way that plenty of other players have played alternative positions in representative games to their regular club positions.
 

Old Timer

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No he didn’t. What he ACTUALLY said was that Hunt was a 9 at that (Representative) level. In the same way that plenty of other players have played alternative positions in representative games to their regular club positions.
If he gets picked for Qld at 9 to basically replace the former long standing test captain and SOO legend Smith and now faces off against the current Australian hooker Cook and Hunt has beaten all other regular hookers to achieve that distinction then I guess he is probably a hooker. No doubt the Australian selectors / coaching staff would also be getting involved in the selection process and making their voices heard.
We wanted a half and signed a hooker masquerading as a half because we were too dumb to see it and too stupid to naive to have other options.
 

muzby

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If he gets picked for Qld at 9 to basically replace the former long standing test captain and SOO legend Smith and now faces off against the current Australian hooker Cook and Hunt has beaten all other regular hookers to achieve that distinction then I guess he is probably a hooker.
Interesting...

Here’s a picture of Andrew Johns (who was named halfback of the century and the 8th immortal) playing hooker at state of origin level...

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possm

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If he gets picked for Qld at 9 to basically replace the former long standing test captain and SOO legend Smith and now faces off against the current Australian hooker Cook and Hunt has beaten all other regular hookers to achieve that distinction then I guess he is probably a hooker. No doubt the Australian selectors / coaching staff would also be getting involved in the selection process and making their voices heard.
We wanted a half and signed a hooker masquerading as a half because we were too dumb to see it and too stupid to naive to have other options.
But it is not a MESS, Millward is doing a fine job! we can just put Norman at halfback when he comes back and keep Field at five-eighth.

Season 2019 is a gap year for Mary and a dead duck for SGI. At least use the remainder of the season to sort out who we should keep and who we should let go. I say forget about the safe selections, test the likes of Timm, Kerr and Saab. Buy a right centre, a right winger and a replacement for De Belin.
 

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Hunt is a fine 7. Just needs good 1-6's around him and encouraged to challenge the line a bit more after he has forwards that make decent yardage in a set...not after making it to our own 30 after 4-5 tackles.
But he is not the best for QLD.. so what!.
It is up to our coaching staff to get the best out of him and the team but they cant!
 

Old Timer

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Interesting...

Here’s a picture of Andrew Johns (who was named halfback of the century and the 8th immortal) playing hooker at state of origin level...

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So your saying Hunt is as good a player as Joey “The Immortal ” Johns?
Many of the truly greats could play more than 1 position at the highest level and succeed in both or in the odd occasion even 3 positions
Hunt was dropped from half and picked as a hooker as he was deemed to be better at it.
Johns was never dropped he was adapted to suit the team at the time.
Johns could have been continually picked as e half or as a hooker depending on circumstances however Hunt will never be picked as a half at rep level ever again.
 

possm

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Where is Possm?...MMMiiiiiiillllllllwwwwwaaaarrrrrdddddd!
My point though is it immediately or next year?
Besides..if McInnes is injured who is our next hooker. Lovodua, Ben Hunt..not in current half back form?
Surely not
Cowboys want 3 why could we not have 3
I think I've said how I feel about this in other posts. This club is managed by a bunch of fools.
 

muzby

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So your saying Hunt is as good a player as Joey “The Immortal ” Johns?
Many of the truly greats could play more than 1 position at the highest level and succeed in both or in the odd occasion even 3 positions
Hunt was dropped from half and picked as a hooker as he was deemed to be better at it.
Johns was never dropped he was adapted to suit the team at the time.
Johns could have been continually picked as e half or as a hooker depending on circumstances however Hunt will never be picked as a half at rep level ever again.

Lol.. I love it when someone has an agenda..

I’m pointing out to you that just because a player us picked out of position in a rep team does not mean they are forever pigeonholed there..

If it makes it easier for you to understand, let’s take Hunt out of the equation.. Have a look at fullbacks who get picked on the wing in origin..

You pick the best available players to make a team and find a spot for them..


Hunt will never be picked as a half at rep level ever again.
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Lol.. I love it when someone has an agenda..

I’m pointing out to you that just because a player us picked out of position in a rep team does not mean they are forever pigeonholed there..

If it makes it easier for you to understand, let’s take Hunt out of the equation.. Have a look at fullbacks who get picked on the wing in origin..

You pick the best available players to make a team and find a spot for them..



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FMD you are such an arrogant prick at times.
You don't have to make anything easier for me to understand as I understand my position totally you Prat.
I believe that Hunt is a hooker masquerading as a halfback thus the reason for my post.
Is he an upgrade on what we had as a half, yes, is he as good as people think, IMO no, is he the answer to our prayers in respect of getting our team to premiership quality, IMO no, nor will he ever be.
I wouldn't have him in the top 6 half backs in the comp.
You say pick the best available players and then find a position for them well if that is the case there would be plenty of players better than Hunt that haven't made the team and nobody found a spot for them did they?
Hunt has played 11/2 games as a hooker all at rep footy level I think and he is keeping out high quality players so why do you think that is?
Why do you think he is not getting picked as half back?
The old adage that your third best centre or your 2nd best FB is your first picked winger is the very reason why we lost so many series in SOO.
 

muzby

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FMD you are such an arrogant prick at times.
You don't have to make anything easier for me to understand as I understand my position totally you Prat.
I believe that Hunt is a hooker masquerading as a halfback thus the reason for my post.
Is he an upgrade on what we had as a half, yes, is he as good as people think, IMO no, is he the answer to our prayers in respect of getting our team to premiership quality, IMO no, nor will he ever be.
I wouldn't have him in the top 6 half backs in the comp.
You say pick the best available players and then find a position for them well if that is the case there would be plenty of players better than Hunt that haven't made the team and nobody found a spot for them did they?
Hunt has played 11/2 games as a hooker all at rep footy level I think and he is keeping out high quality players so why do you think that is?
Why do you think he is not getting picked as half back?
The old adage that your third best centre or your 2nd best FB is your first picked winger is the very reason why we lost so many series in SOO.
Interesting..

Yet if I had used examples of mediocre players like Crocker or Bartrim playing hooker for QLD or McGuire playing hooker for Samoa, you’d be trying to say Hunt is as bad as them..

You’ve got an agenda against Hunt so no matter what evidence you’re provided you’ll take the opposite position..

You should be happy that one of our players is representing at the highest level..

The old adage that your third best centre or your 2nd best FB is your first picked winger is the very reason why we lost so many series in SOO.
What’s this “we lost” business??

Queensland won a shiteload of series wins doing exactly that..

Great times!

Singing aye-yai-yippie-yippie-yai!
 

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Interesting..

Yet if I had used examples of mediocre players like Crocker or Bartrim playing hooker for QLD or McGuire playing hooker for Samoa, you’d be trying to say Hunt is as bad as them..

You’ve got an agenda against Hunt so no matter what evidence you’re provided you’ll take the opposite position..

You should be happy that one of our players is representing at the highest level..


What’s this “we lost” business??

Queensland won a shiteload of series wins doing exactly that..

Great times!

Singing aye-yai-yippie-yippie-yai!
Again your supreme arrogance stands out because you keep saying I have an agenda against Hunt.
That is based on the fact that you obviously like him so to dislike Hunt means an agenda in your opinion.
Get it through your thick head I don't rate him particularly highly and my opinion is not based on anything other than what I see that he delivers in a game context.
You are the one with the agenda as you are obviously pro Millward and all things he does and as Hunt is a Millward signing you are always going to err on the side of milliard doing good work signing him.
Just because I think he is more of a dud than a good signing doesn't mean I have an agenda it simply means my opinion of him as a footballer is different to yours.
So while Qld did win it obviously means we must have lost and again my opinion of why we lost is based on not picking the correct team and going for the very options we discussed. I concede that Qld at times did pick players out of position but obviously their choices and ability to do so was far better than ours.
 

muzby

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Get it through your thick head I don't rate him particularly highly and my opinion is not based on anything other than what I see that he delivers in a game context.
The superior structure of my cranium has nothing to do with this football related discussion.

Hunt has played first grade football, represented both his state and country, and is earning over $1m a year to play a game that you obsess over..

So I think better judges than you have made their call..
 

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The superior structure of my cranium has nothing to do with this football related discussion.

Hunt has played first grade football, represented both his state and country, and is earning over $1m a year to play a game that you obsess over..

So I think better judges than you have made their call..
You think (lmfao)
 
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